Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it is, when it boils down to it, a cop out fluff answer. Which is Carol's point, that it was a non-answer, and that she expected a better answer, more from a technical perspective. Sure. We all understood this already. It doesn't change the

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Aewyn
Hi, I'm not interested in gnome any way, I'm not interested in arguing anyone about file selectors at appropriate gtk lists. I think this is not gnome's businnes, it is gimp's businnes. If gnome's fileselector is bad, gimp should not. If gnome will be a toy of idiots, gimp should not. And I

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Aewyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not interested in gnome any way, I'm not interested in arguing anyone about file selectors at appropriate gtk lists. I think this is not gnome's businnes, it is gimp's businnes. If gnome's fileselector is bad, gimp should not. If gnome will be a

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Aewyn
Thanks, Really, I'm an outsider in gtk/gnome topic. I just like gimp, and I'm afraid a little bit of gimp starts to leave bazaar concept as seen at gnome. I realized that old fileselector is not too perfect, so I used filemanager's drag and drop to open files. (what is nonsense to open a new

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Geoffrey
Manish Singh wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 09:55:59PM +0200, David Neary wrote: Getting something to the stage where my grandmother would use it is a proverbial way of describing making technology accessible to a larger public. I am sure this was the sense in which Luis was talking when he said

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Geoffrey
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it is, when it boils down to it, a cop out fluff answer. Which is Carol's point, that it was a non-answer, and that she expected a better answer, more from a technical perspective. Sure. We all understood this already. It doesn't

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I must respectfully disagree, as a GIMP user, I am most definitely interested in the reason for the change. It may be that I am a developer as well, that prompts me to want to know, but the bottom line is, any time a change is made that seems to be

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Sven, is it possible (in theory) to have several dialog types in GIMP at the same time? OpenOffice under Windows allow using native system openfile dialog or its own style dialog. A user can chhose it in the preferences. If anybody is interested, this could solve this problem at all. One way

Deserving answers (was: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors)

2004-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quoting Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the essence of the whole issue. The bottom line is, Carol, or anyone else for that matter, deserved a real answer. This is a misconception. People do not *deserve* answers to whatever question they choose to ask. There are good ways and bad

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alexander Rabtchevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven, is it possible (in theory) to have several dialog types in GIMP at the same time? OpenOffice under Windows allow using native system openfile dialog or its own style dialog. A user can chhose it in the preferences. Almost everything

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Aewyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to set letter's kerning in gimp? If you are refering to letter spacing or tracking, here's the relevant bug report: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125483 Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Aewyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but not really. (kerning means the different space needed between A - V, and V - V; it depends on the used font, but fonts sometimes (always) have erroneus kernings) GIMP uses the kerning tables that come with the fonts. If they are incorrect, I'd say

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors

2004-09-07 Thread Geoffrey
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I must respectfully disagree, as a GIMP user, I am most definitely interested in the reason for the change. It may be that I am a developer as well, that prompts me to want to know, but the bottom line is, any time a change is made that

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Simon Budig
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What GIMP is going to provide (one day) is ways to adjust letter spacing. You can then fix the kerning whereever you think it is wrong. We are however not going to write that info back to the font. Well, Kerning (as in fix up this pair of letters) would

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Aewyn
no no no, gimp has no any job with editing fonts, nor writing back any info. But manual kerning is gimp's lesson. As it works in coreldraw, inkscape or other tool. Again: designer's work is making documents with correct kerning pairs, so manual kerning is the job of designer's tool (here it is

[Gimp-user] 15 million vs 15 hundred

2004-09-07 Thread Carol Spears
i am interested in corporate backed developers showing respect to volunteer back developers. i am interested in maintaining (or starting) a relationship in which corporate funded developers treat volunteer funded developers equal. my suggestion is that luis apologize for not taking the

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Aewyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As it works in coreldraw, inkscape or other tool. Again: designer's work is making documents with correct kerning pairs, so manual kerning is the job of designer's tool (here it is gimp). We don't disagree at all except that I think that you are using

[Gimp-user] Re: kerning

2004-09-07 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-09-07 at 1733.59 +0200): Kerning is alpha and omega of design, and we cannot change any fonts anyhow. I am with you, and it was explained in the bug the first link references (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120268). Users do not care if Pango can or can not,

Re: [Gimp-user] kerning

2004-09-07 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 17:01 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Editing that text file is not going to be any easier or faster than editing the font using the tool I showed you. GIMP is not going to provide ways to fix your fonts since there are tools available for this job and GIMP is not a font