Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote:
 Why is this our problem?

Our list  our community is being distracted by it. That gives
us a facet of the problem. We can reduce that facet by simply
saying That's a GimpShop problem, please take it http://here/;
in response.

Hopefully, this will prompt GimpShop developer(s) to put up
their own fora, even if only in self defence.

One possible (not likely, you'll notice, but possible) outcome
is that having GIMP-friendly moderators will lead to
participants pressuring GimpShop developers to turn it into
a a collection of patches on GIMP, or maybe a GIMP module
of some kind.

Cheers; Leon

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[Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread Alchemie foto\\grafiche
sorry to post again on this topic but there are to points


One possible (not likely, you'll notice, but possible) outcome
is that having GIMP-friendly moderators will lead to
participants pressuring GimpShop developers to turn it into
a a collection of patches on GIMP, or maybe a GIMP module
of some kind.

This i suppose he already did: the deweirdyfier plugin that is listed in the
gimp plugin repository as far i know basically transform gimp in gimpshop.

seem result is even a bit less buggy then gimpshop

then...GIMPSHOP SUPPORT

as answer to any question relate to gimpshop we can kindly offer the
link for the Gimpshop author webside , this 
http://www.plasticbugs.com/

default reply could be, please for Gimpshop refer to http://www.plasticbugs.com/
this is a different project, we can't help




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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie

2007-07-12 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:27:49 -0500, Eric P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm all into usability as I use a high ratio of keyboard shortcuts vs. mouse 
 in GIMP.  Can you elaborate on some of the
 new usability enhancements?  I'm all ears.

Well, it's difficult to single out a specific feature.  I suggest that
you read the recent changes summarized in:
  http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS
And maybe more importantly, that you look at the work done by Kamila
and Peter for improving the user interface:
  http://gui.gimp.org/
Some of these improvements have already integrated in the current
version in SVN but others are still pending.  For example, have a
look at:
  http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Selection_%2B_crop_tool_specification

You will also find many little things that have been improved to guide
the user along the way, such as tooltips for all menu items (quick
description of what each filter does) or status bar messages that help
you to remember how to use each tool and what to do with Ctrl/Alt/Shift.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-user] 16 Bit files

2007-07-12 Thread scott s.
Brian Vanderburg II wrote:
 I frequently use the GIMP for patterns/fractals that are to be used as 
 height fields.  For this, it would be nice if 16bit gray scale was 
 available.  I figure GIMP will eventually have 16bit support.
 

Same here.  there are instances when it would be nice to use graphics
tools on 16 bit height fields.

scott s.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread John R. Culleton
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 17:16, Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote:
  The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization
  that was forked from to provide support to the fork.

 True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to
 moderate such a list,  what it would coist to run such at
 Berkeley?

 The logic is that it would take such posts away from the main
 list (which you're reading now)  really be helping people.
 The downside is that it could be seen as supporting GimpShop
 despite the developer's entire unwillingness to join this
 community.

 In answer to the second point, are are any other good, free
 (yeah, yeah, I know) list servers in action that you'd
 recommend someone independant started a support list on?

 The idea behind that is to take the traffic away but still
 be able to monitor it, so that despite said developer's
 approach, good ideas could be captured for the benefit of
 *both* packages. And, who knows, bad ideas might even get
 a little slapping about before anyone implements them, so
 establishing a precendent.

 If enough people here think the idea's basically a winner,
 I might ask Linux Australia to be a list host, with the
 idea of inviting a few others here along as moderators.

 Cheers; Leon

Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups.  I see some with three 
members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to 
join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen posts, set up 
assistant moderators and so on. I am the lead moderator on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two essentially coequal 
co-moderators. The owner of the list is SPAN.

It is a comprehensive service and it is free. It isn't perfect but 
what is? 
-- 
John Culleton
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Re: [Gimp-user] usability enhancements (was: newbie)

2007-07-12 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Raphaël Quinet wrote:
 You will also find many little things that have been improved
 to guide the user along the way, such as tooltips for all menu
 items (quick description of what each filter does) or status
 bar messages that help you to remember how to use each tool
 and what to do with Ctrl/Alt/Shift.

Yah, I think improvements which make a gazillion little
improvements across the board are both very difficult to
usefully describe beyond it's better and and very important.

This makes the announcements tend to either be overwhelming,
confusing prose or uninformitavely brief. Let's have a go,
and see if I can cover everything in one short par, but still
be informative:

Extensive improvements to User Interface factors,
such as improved shortcuts, plus informative status
messages  tooltips to let the user know what is
actually happening at any instant.

Cheers; Leon

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Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On 7/12/07, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups.  I see some with three
 members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to
 join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen posts, set up
 assistant moderators and so on. I am the lead moderator on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two essentially coequal
 co-moderators. The owner of the list is SPAN.

 It is a comprehensive service and it is free. It isn't perfect but
 what is?

Yahoo Group messages are nastily formatted HTML.  I hear the Google
Groups has added mailing lists  -- I wonder if that's any better?


Chris
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