Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16
Hi, your two mails did both include the full mailing-list digest as a quote. That is not OK. If you absolutely have to use the mailing-list digest, could you pretty please not reply to the digest mails. If you insist on replying to the digest mail, then please set a reasonable subject and remove all but the relevant parts from your quotes. Thanks for following the rules outlined at http://gimp.org/mail_lists.html Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers
I really appreciate the replies. In the work flow example I gave earlier in this thread, am I correct that there is no other practical way to accomplish those steps on a photo other than to perform them destructively on a single layer (set levels, hit ok, correct color, hit ok, etc. so that you can't go back without undoing in sequence or just scrapping your work and starting over from scratch)? And flattening or merging layers is really sort of a 'kicked down the road' way of 'hitting OK' albeit you are committing to a batch of changes rather than accepting them one at a time - better, I guess, in that you get to see the net effect of all the layers in the stack before committing to their effect. So, if I'm correct, then, I finally think I've grasped how to use layers in editing a photo. I am no expert but I think you are nearly there. One thing to bear in mind is that, with a tool like levels, every time you use it and press OK you will lose some detail. So it will pay not to accept your changes until you are really satisfied with the result. If you need to go back then it will probably be better to redo that layer from fresh. In other cases with a layer stack you can, of course, turn layers on and off with the little icon on the left and so work on any layer you wish. Norman Thanks, Norman. -- Carusoswi (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers
Thanks for the info. It seems exciting things are on the horizon. I eagerly await with much anticipation. /Gary Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but it seems that in gimp I have to make a copy of the base layer and apply any adjustments to the copy; and repeat this for any new adjustment. This seems to be much less flexible, as subsequent changes to the middle layer would be obscured by the upper layer? This is certainly true; all of your points are true. This is being worked on. However, the specific idea of 'effect layers' is regarded as severely broken (basically cause it makes nonsense of the whole layers concept: all layers have content, but oh! effect layers don't. all layers have blending mode, but oops! effect layers don't. it's user-unfriendly in this marked inconsistency.) The implementation I believe we are currently aiming for is instead oriented around the idea of being able to attach any number of effects to a given layer group (btw, martin nordholts is doing some great work on layer trees presently and in the last few months.. they are shaping up well.) The photoshop method appears to be far more flexible. I was thinking that doing things this way might also have a beneficial effect on the file size, though judging by the size of photoshop format files, I doubt this is actually the case. Photoshop format generally saves a lot of cached data -- for instance, there is a thumbnail for each layer, and a composited version of the image rendered at full size. But I tend to save as layered tiff with zip compression applied to the layers, which makes them much smaller and preserves much of the layer information (though things like selections won't be saved. But I can live with that). ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
