[Gimp-user] Re: how to break down a photo into printing colors and newsprint shading

2006-11-06 Thread graffoo
Look for the Decompose plugin - ColorsComponentsDecompose... CMYK - 
you'll get an image with 4 black and white layers. Then you can save 
each layer as separate files you can use for silk screen. To make 
shadings with dots, use FilterDistortsNewsprint and play with the 
settings ;)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: how to break down a photo into printing colors and newsprint shading

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Mohler

On 11/6/06, graffoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Look for the Decompose plugin - ColorsComponentsDecompose... CMYK -
you'll get an image with 4 black and white layers. Then you can save
each layer as separate files you can use for silk screen. To make
shadings with dots, use FilterDistortsNewsprint and play with the
settings ;)


Is it my imagaination, or are the CMYK layers inverted?

I'm using GIMP version 2.2.13

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: how to break down a photo into printing colors and newsprint shading

2006-11-06 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Monday 06 November 2006 09:32 pm, Chris Mohler wrote:
 On 11/6/06, graffoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Look for the Decompose plugin - ColorsComponentsDecompose...
  CMYK - you'll get an image with 4 black and white layers. Then
  you can save each layer as separate files you can use for silk
  screen. To make shadings with dots, use FilterDistortsNewsprint
  and play with the settings ;)

 Is it my imagaination, or are the CMYK layers inverted?
Yes, for printing purposes they are inverted after the decompose 
plug-in.

The amount of ink is marked in each pixel from 0 to 255 - so, if an 
image has some pixels with zero yellow (for example, white pixels) 
- the output of the decompose plug-in has this as zero yellow ink- 
meaning black. if it where full yellow, it would be full intensity - 
showing White.

In pratice, you  just have to invert that.

You can't however expect color accuracy with that plug-in. That is - 
you will have variations on the color you see on the screen and the 
color you get if you use the decompose plug-in, invert each resulting 
image, print that as a screen, and recompose the colors.


you may also want to increase the pixel quantity in your image, before 
using the newsprint plug-in.  Your target printing process have an 
ideal lpi number - arrange your work so that you have these lpi in 
the final image for each color.

Another way of doing this work you might find usefull is using the 
GIMP channels instead of layers for compositing your final image.

Just create a channel for each ink color you intend to use, and later 
apply the newspirint plug-in ont these channels.

As for separating, let's say, dark blue in a separate channel from a 
normal RGB image, I can think of the following procedure, which would 
have to be written as  a plug-in:

duplicate image, flatten-image, duplicate layer, color to alpha(remove 
desired channel color, on the underlying layer), set upper layer to 
'difference' combine mode, copy visible, paste as new layer, 
dessaturate, copy, create new channel, paste on new channel.

Perceive taht whatever you do, the dessaturate step will modify the 
finalc composition of your image you should spend some trial and 
error either in that step, or modifying the curve of the final 
channel.

Either way, I'd like to hear how you are doing when using GIMP this 
way. 

Regards,

js
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 I'm using GIMP version 2.2.13

 Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: how to break down a photo into printing colors and newsprint shading

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Mohler

Either way, I'd like to hear how you are doing when using GIMP this
way.


To be 100% honest, I still haven't done too may separations with GIMP
yet.  I'm slowly gathering all the bits and pieces necc. to replace AI
and PS with Inkscape and GIMP - but it's taking a while :)

I have used spot channels in GIMP, and they behave as expected.  The
'halftone/newsprint' plugin seems a tad noisy to me, so for haltones
I'm saving as PS, inserting my haltone freq/angle into the PS file,
and printing through ghostscript.  (it here a way to use GS as a
plugin for GIMP...?wheels turning)

It's a work in progress - I'll let everyone know how I make out...

Chris
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