Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:00:41PM +0200, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 03.06.2004 14:27:08, Sven Neumann a ?crit?: it's about seven weeks since we branched the CVS tree and there is now a first development snapshot of GIMP 2.1 available from ftp.gimp.org and it's mirrors: http://gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors This is an unstable development release. It certainly has bugs and there are a number of unfinished hacks. We are nevertheless interested in your feedback and would like you to file bug reports for crashes and non-obvious problems. [ ... ] I've built the cvs several time, just to see if I have everything needed on my system. After the incoming of gtk-2.4 on Debian sid, everything went fine... about compilation and run. I've anyway a couple of question : 1 - localization : I've not found the way the localization is done (if done) with the new xml menu structure. 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. still not fixed. it is not easier. it has some cool new features, yet this file selector is dictating how people work. any suggestions? my suggestion is that configurability for the old way the file selector worked be added. since for whatever reason it needs to be simpler for new users, this can be something that is added to the file selector via editing the configuration files, the way a few different operating systems used to do it. a certain amount of expertise and the desire to have the old way working again -- and the cool linux originated app would have its configurability back. also, it would make certain corporations look less responsible for mangling perfectly good software. better yet, everyone put the credit where it belongs and when changes are made that are so against the overall nature of what made the software strong and good to begin with, well, if it is so good, put your own name on it and do with it what you will. keeping the gimp's name on a tool kit that spits in the eye of its origins is perhaps a sin? it smells of lack of pride of the people who did it. i know the individuals, and i think there is nothing wrong with them or the name. they should be as proud of themselves as i am to know them and have worked with them and put their own name on their software. all this time, who should feel the shame? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
Le 03.06.2004 14:27:08, Sven Neumann a écrit : Hi, it's about seven weeks since we branched the CVS tree and there is now a first development snapshot of GIMP 2.1 available from ftp.gimp.org and it's mirrors: http://gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors This is an unstable development release. It certainly has bugs and there are a number of unfinished hacks. We are nevertheless interested in your feedback and would like you to file bug reports for crashes and non-obvious problems. [ ... ] I've built the cvs several time, just to see if I have everything needed on my system. After the incoming of gtk-2.4 on Debian sid, everything went fine... about compilation and run. I've anyway a couple of question : 1 - localization : I've not found the way the localization is done (if done) with the new xml menu structure. 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. -- Regards - Jean-Luc pgpFC0fBE54Cj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
On Thursday 03 June 2004 10:00, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 03.06.2004 14:27:08, Sven Neumann a écrit : Hi, it's about seven weeks since we branched the CVS tree and there is now a first development snapshot of GIMP 2.1 available from ftp.gimp.org and it's mirrors: http://gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors This is an unstable development release. It certainly has bugs and there are a number of unfinished hacks. We are nevertheless interested in your feedback and would like you to file bug reports for crashes and non-obvious problems. [ ... ] I've built the cvs several time, just to see if I have everything needed on my system. After the incoming of gtk-2.4 on Debian sid, everything went fine... about compilation and run. I've anyway a couple of question : 1 - localization : I've not found the way the localization is done (if done) with the new xml menu structure. hmm. I ran into this as well. It's done just the sameway, what happens is that the .po files in CVS are not up to date. All you have to do is to proceed to the .po directory and type #../intltool-update locale_code (and update the translation). 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. Well... this is just a _blocker_ bug introduced in the new GTK. The GIMP will certainly have to override this keyboardless file chooser at some point. -- Regards - Jean-Luc Regards, JS -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
Hi, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've anyway a couple of question : 1 - localization : I've not found the way the localization is done (if done) with the new xml menu structure. There are no translatable strings in the XML files. The XML files specify the location of menu entries, not the strings associated with them. 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. Type Ctrl-L to get an entry with nice TAB completion. Yes, I'd like to see this entry being part of the file chooser by default but that's something that you need to tell the GTK+ developers. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. Type Ctrl-L to get an entry with nice TAB completion. Use File-Open Location. Ctrl-L still is the default shortcut for the Layers dialog and I'd be very unhappy if this'd get changed because some people might confuse gimp with a browser... Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
Hi, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. Type Ctrl-L to get an entry with nice TAB completion. Use File-Open Location. Ctrl-L still is the default shortcut for the Layers dialog and I'd be very unhappy if this'd get changed because some people might confuse gimp with a browser... You misunderstood me. Ctrl-L typed into the GtkFileChooser opens a dialog that offers the old Tab-completion functionality to select a file. File-Open Location is a different thing. It doesn't do completion on the file-system and it isn't meant to be used for local files. It's about opening remote files by specifying an URL. And unfortunately it's also broken in 2.1.0 (fixed in CVS). Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.1.0 Development Release
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've anyway a couple of question : 1 - localization : I've not found the way the localization is done (if done) with the new xml menu structure. There are no translatable strings in the XML files. The XML files specify the location of menu entries, not the strings associated with them. 2 - gtk-2.4 file chooser : I've not found the way to enter a filename from the keyboard but only a graphical, mouse friendly menu. Is there a way to select a file in a classical way ? With the previous versions, it was easy, even the gtk+ completion was fine. Type Ctrl-L to get an entry with nice TAB completion. Yes, I'd like to (for auto-complete i thought they were getting rid of TAB completion and using suggest/replace as you type instead, because using TAB messes with navigating through the widgets in the dialog, but they might not have do so yet). see this entry being part of the file chooser by default but that's something that you need to tell the GTK+ developers. As well as emailing the developers you should look at this enhancement request. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_.cgi?id=136541 Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
