how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

Hi,
I've got tiffs created in Photoshop that I need to crop using Gimp.  They
have alpha.  If I open the up in Gimp, use the crop tool, then resave, the
next time I open them I discover that only the alpha-mask has been saved
in place of the rgb data.

before save:  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.tif
after save:   http://24.16.52.60/~dm/after.tif

Needless to say, this is not what I want.

How do I do what I want?

(Please CC me on replies, as I don't subscribe to gimp-user)



Transparency Selection

2000-06-16 Thread Kulish, Chris (Des Moines)

I realize this is probably a newbie question ...

Is there any way to select the transparent section of an image?

What I am trying to create is an image that will look decent on any color
background (hence the transparency).  I want the image to have a *cut out*
appearance so I was going to select the transparent portion and use the drop
shadow script.

Or, is there a better way to do this?

Thanks!

CK



RE: Transparency Selection

2000-06-16 Thread Kulish, Chris (Des Moines)


Sorry about the noise.  Right after I sent this message out, I found a way
to do it, though not pretty.  I kept selecting the regions I wanted the drop
shadow to appear on, then inverted the selection.  I finally got the look I
wanted, but I also ended up with a bunch of transparent squares with drop
shadows onto transparent backgrounds...

Thanks!

CK
 -Original Message-
From:   Kulish, Chris (Des Moines) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, June 16, 2000 1:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Transparency Selection

I realize this is probably a newbie question ...

Is there any way to select the transparent section of an image?

What I am trying to create is an image that will look decent on any color
background (hence the transparency).  I want the image to have a *cut out*
appearance so I was going to select the transparent portion and use the drop
shadow script.

Or, is there a better way to do this?

Thanks!

CK



RE: Transparency Selection

2000-06-16 Thread Amy

actually, it's much easier...  Right click on the layer you want to
select, hit "alpha to selection".  Then invert the selection.



n Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Kulish, Chris (Des Moines) wrote:

 
 Sorry about the noise.  Right after I sent this message out, I found a way
 to do it, though not pretty.  I kept selecting the regions I wanted the drop
 shadow to appear on, then inverted the selection.  I finally got the look I
 wanted, but I also ended up with a bunch of transparent squares with drop
 shadows onto transparent backgrounds...
 
 Thanks!
 
 CK
  -Original Message-
 From: Kulish, Chris (Des Moines) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:51 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Transparency Selection
 
 I realize this is probably a newbie question ...
 
 Is there any way to select the transparent section of an image?
 
 What I am trying to create is an image that will look decent on any color
 background (hence the transparency).  I want the image to have a *cut out*
 appearance so I was going to select the transparent portion and use the drop
 shadow script.
 
 Or, is there a better way to do this?
 
 Thanks!
 
 CK
 

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RE: Transparency Selection

2000-06-16 Thread Kulish, Chris (Des Moines)

That worked, but with one problem.  I am trying to make an image with
multiple depths which will require me to use the drop shadow multiple times.
Or will it?

Thanks

CK

 -Original Message-
From:   Amy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, June 16, 2000 5:57 AM
To: Kulish, Chris (Des Moines)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Transparency Selection

actually, it's much easier...  Right click on the layer you want to
select, hit "alpha to selection".  Then invert the selection.



n Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Kulish, Chris (Des Moines) wrote:

 
 Sorry about the noise.  Right after I sent this message out, I found a way
 to do it, though not pretty.  I kept selecting the regions I wanted the
drop
 shadow to appear on, then inverted the selection.  I finally got the look
I
 wanted, but I also ended up with a bunch of transparent squares with drop
 shadows onto transparent backgrounds...
 
 Thanks!
 
 CK
  -Original Message-
 From: Kulish, Chris (Des Moines) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:51 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Transparency Selection
 
 I realize this is probably a newbie question ...
 
 Is there any way to select the transparent section of an image?
 
 What I am trying to create is an image that will look decent on any color
 background (hence the transparency).  I want the image to have a *cut out*
 appearance so I was going to select the transparent portion and use the
drop
 shadow script.
 
 Or, is there a better way to do this?
 
 Thanks!
 
 CK
 

--Ames
--
   "Fine!  Then I'm just gonna take my laptop and go home!!!"
Amy L. Abascal  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Design Chic, VA Linux Systems  www.valinux.com
Web Design Chic, Silicon Valley Linux Users Groupwww.svlug.com
--




Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

I tried downloading the two files to play with them.  The second file 'after.tiff' is 
fine, but
opening 'before.tiff' using the gimp gives errors - about unknown data segments.  This 
is probably
because Photoshop is using a newer(or non-standard) file format than the GIMP.

The file itself was created using Photoshop version 5.  I tried using GIMP version 
1.1.23 to open
it, what version is Dave using?

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Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

Your aim was to use the GIMP to crop the pictures, but did you try anything else?  I 
tried some
color related operations (color compose) and it returned "Compose: Image is not a gray 
image
(bbp=3)".  The bbp bit means bits per pixel (I think), and don't know if this has any 
real bearing
on what your doing.

I tried some other color operations, most return "FUNCTION NAME operates only on RGB 
color
drawables.  To me this suggests the GIMP doesn't like something about these files, 
rather than a
problem when saving.

You must tell me what the image is supposed to be, it doesn't look very recognisable 
to me.

My knowledge of the GIMP is not very deep, I'm not an image artist, developer or 
anything - I just
like playing with the GIMP occasionally.  Dave, you obviously know more than me but I 
hope my
suggestions help guide you in the right direction.

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