On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:05:15PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> Please do not purport to speak for me as I am perfectly happy with the
> current name and have been so for many years now.
>
> I vote for no name change
Me neither - This cancel culture is becoming reiduclous. Don't people
On Fri, 28 May 2021 13:30:25 -0500
Ross Martinek wrote:
> Limpingly,
>
> Ross
+1
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Yes, I found the OP highly offensive—and I have disabilities. But GIMP is an
acronym, pronounced and written “gimp.” That word, like so many others, is only
offensive if INTENDED as such. “Smile when you say that!" The name of the
program cannot be so intended, ergo no offense applies, or is
Ruben Safir wrote:
you. Nobody really disputes that GIMP is a "harmless" word to the
majority of the worlds population. But "majority" is not necessarily the
relevant metrics here.
Actually it is.
There is also the political aspect of not caving into newspeak despots
This, so much this.
On Fri, 28 May 2021 13:41:56 -0400
Ruben Safir wrote:
> Anyone who is in favor of codes of conduct are real threat to all of
> free software.
>
>
really Ruben I think you should stop this. My objection to the OP's
concern was that it is a distraction from what is clearly intended to
be a
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Michael Richards via gimp-user-list [05-27-21
19:34]:
Thank you Frederico,
I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but am
open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, the
CoC, and/or the board of
Anyone who is in favor of codes of conduct are real threat to all of
free software.
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On 5/28/21 12:04 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> Kill the secret communist style party organ to judge social credit
> scores.
Kill the secret communist style party organ to judge social credit
scores.
It needs to die. There is no justiification to chill speech and to have
tribuanals.
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So
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:55 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > Federico - as chairperson of the CoC Committee, and Board member.
>
> Kill the secret communist style party organ to judge social credit
> scores.
I guess I have to post a reminder after all.
https://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 04:48:21PM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 23:26 +0300, Cristian Secară wrote:
> >
> > In what language stands the name as discrimination ?
>
> English.
>
Not English
>
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>
> Federico - as chairperson of the CoC Committee, and Board member.
>
Kill the secret communist style party organ to judge social credit
scores.
It is disgusting
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> you. Nobody really disputes that GIMP is a "harmless" word to the
> majority of the worlds population. But "majority" is not necessarily the
> relevant metrics here.
>
Actually it is.
There is also the political aspect of not caving into newspeak despots
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 04:24:11PM -0700, Michael Richards via gimp-user-list
wrote:
> Thank you Frederico,
>
> I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list
Fly by night left wing totaletarian BS.
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On Friday 28 May 2021 05:54:39 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list wrote:
> What does Michael Richards do?
>
No clue, I don't care enough to look up a BSc. But I have a certificate
card in my billfold and an 8x10 on the wall thats probably 1000x rarer,
I am a CET. Its got me every job I have
On 5/28/21 2:31 PM, Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list wrote:
> *
Please stop this kind of implied ad-hominem attack. Thank you.
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Does he have standing?
Does he have experience?
Does he have a better suggested name, title, acronym or abbreviation
for the software (no)
Is he an actor??
Does he - I don't suggest he does - make a habit of demanding changes
without contributing to making changes, or the things he changes?
GIMP
* Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list [05-28-21 05:57]:
> What does Michael Richards do?
>
> On Fri, 28 May 2021, 08:21 Gene Heskett, wrote:
>
> > On Friday 28 May 2021 00:35:20 Bob Long wrote:
> >
> > > Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am:
> > > > Thank you Frederico,
>
Hi all.
Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list (gimp-user-list@gnome.org) wrote:
> What does Michael Richards do?
Please stop this kind of implied ad-hominem attack. Thank you.
And to all others: Thanks for your input. Seems the name discussion
rears its head again.
It is not necessary to explain
What does Michael Richards do?
On Fri, 28 May 2021, 08:21 Gene Heskett, wrote:
> On Friday 28 May 2021 00:35:20 Bob Long wrote:
>
> > Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am:
> > > Thank you Frederico,
> > >
> > > I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:26:41PM +0300, Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Tue, 25 May 2021 11:19:43 -0700, Michael Richards via
> gimp-user-list a scris:
>
> >
> > I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> > violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
> >
> > I make
Hi,
I am quite confident that there will be no action regarding name change
of the GIMP from the GNOME side, considering that if they do something,
they would be forced to change their own name first or being considered
hypocrit (gnome is a derogative term in several languages including my
mother
On Friday 28 May 2021 00:35:20 Bob Long wrote:
> Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am:
> > Thank you Frederico,
> >
> > I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for
> > now but am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image
> > Manipulation
Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am:
> Thank you Frederico,
>
> I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but
> am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program,
> the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or
On Thu, 27 May 2021 20:05:15 -0400
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> I vote for no name change.
Me too. Am I the only one to have read John Callahan's book? I have no
interest in turning a technical support list into a virtue signalling
fest. Do it yourself.
d
* Michael Richards via gimp-user-list [05-27-21
19:34]:
> Thank you Frederico,
>
> I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but
> am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program,
> the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all
Thank you Frederico,
I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but am
open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, the
CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all of those groups wish.
My intention is not to cause trouble for
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, Michael Richards via code-of-
conduct-committee wrote:
> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
Hi, Michael, thanks for your report.
The CoC committee is aware of this problem, and the GNOME
One point: by all means say the acronymic name of the project and
software is sub-optimal, but please provide a proposed better name.
And for the acronym? A renaming of those 4 words fails on the first
and last I think.
They could be reordered without losing sense:-
GNU Image Manipulation
* Shlomi Fish [05-26-21 02:52]:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:14:45 -0400
> Liam R E Quin wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 16:57 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > >
> > > it would only be considered discriminatory if presented in a manner
> > > to
> > > depict discrimination. as a mere
On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:14:45 -0400
Liam R E Quin wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 16:57 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > it would only be considered discriminatory if presented in a manner
> > to
> > depict discrimination. as a mere application name, it is not
> > discriminatory, only
I too walk with a hitch in my getalong. I am also a native English
(American) speaker and I do not find the name of the program offensive.
On 5/25/21 3:06 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
I am sick of lunatics calling the shots
It is time for a revolt against insanity.
I am a GIMP and have been one
I am sick of lunatics calling the shots
It is time for a revolt against insanity.
I am a GIMP and have been one for my hwole life and find the use of the
term GIMP to be uplifting and to give all us GIMPS the utmost honor to
be associated with such an esteamed project.
Furthermore, the Code of
FWIW There are distasteful meanings of the word Glimpse, too.
Cheers,
Cliff
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:15 AM Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <
gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> Dear Michael,
>
> If I were to summarize our conversation with GNOME Foundation a few
> months back, it would
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 16:57 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> it would only be considered discriminatory if presented in a manner
> to
> depict discrimination. as a mere application name, it is not
> discriminatory, only distasteful to one who is so narrow of mind to
> consider it so.
>
Pease
* Liam R E Quin [05-25-21 16:50]:
> On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 23:26 +0300, Cristian Secară wrote:
> >
> > In what language stands the name as discrimination ?
>
> English.
it would only be considered discriminatory if presented in a manner to
depict discrimination. as a mere application name, it
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 23:26 +0300, Cristian Secară wrote:
>
> In what language stands the name as discrimination ?
English.
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În data de Tue, 25 May 2021 11:19:43 -0700, Michael Richards via gimp-user-list
a scris:
>
> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
>
> I make this request, not to cause trouble but to stand up against
> unintentional - but
Dear Michael,
If I were to summarize our conversation with GNOME Foundation a few
months back, it would be this: GIMP has neither boss nor master, so
should the name of this project be changed, it will happen on team's
own terms — the decision, the timing, the name etc.
However, if your patience
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