[Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the functions save and save as, indifferently on .png. xcf or .jpeg. To this end, I set two keyboard shortcuts with one finger: save=s and save as=u. So I can save lot of time. With version 2.8 , it's impossible . I'm professional. My job is to work on images and I can't lost my time. Sorry... So back to Gimp-2.6. I compiled it on Debian Testing/Wheezy (after downgrading gegl and babl) and it works well. This is very annoying. It would be nice to recover ergonomics and traditional functions save and save as in Gimp-2.8. At least give the user the choice Thanks for your work. Best regards Maderios ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
How about using the corresponding export commands or binding them to your preferred keys? It doesn't do xcf but this may be acceptable if you mostly export to an image format. Andreas Am 11.08.2012 20:15, schrieb maderios: Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the functions save and save as, indifferently on .png. xcf or .jpeg. To this end, I set two keyboard shortcuts with one finger: save=s and save as=u. So I can save lot of time. With version 2.8 , it's impossible . I'm professional. My job is to work on images and I can't lost my time. Sorry... So back to Gimp-2.6. I compiled it on Debian Testing/Wheezy (after downgrading gegl and babl) and it works well. This is very annoying. It would be nice to recover ergonomics and traditional functions save and save as in Gimp-2.8. At least give the user the choice Thanks for your work. Best regards Maderios ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
Maybe you can tell us more about what you are doing. I might suspect that it is a repetitive task that could be automated with a script. Let us know if you need help on that. Andreas Am 11.08.2012 20:15, schrieb maderios: Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the functions save and save as, indifferently on .png. xcf or .jpeg. To this end, I set two keyboard shortcuts with one finger: save=s and save as=u. So I can save lot of time. With version 2.8 , it's impossible . I'm professional. My job is to work on images and I can't lost my time. Sorry... So back to Gimp-2.6. I compiled it on Debian Testing/Wheezy (after downgrading gegl and babl) and it works well. This is very annoying. It would be nice to recover ergonomics and traditional functions save and save as in Gimp-2.8. At least give the user the choice Thanks for your work. Best regards Maderios ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 08/11/2012 09:58 PM, Andreas Lemke wrote: Maybe you can tell us more about what you are doing. I might suspect that it is a repetitive task that could be automated with a script. Let us know if you need help on that. Andreas Hi No repetitive task (happily !). I create images. It's just art... Ex, I need to edit and save many versions of the same image. I use different format, png, xcf, jpeg. That's why Gimp has become so complicated for me to use, compared to 2.6 M Am 11.08.2012 20:15, schrieb maderios: Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the functions save and save as, indifferently on .png. xcf or .jpeg. To this end, I set two keyboard shortcuts with one finger: save=s and save as=u. So I can save lot of time. With version 2.8 , it's impossible . I'm professional. My job is to work on images and I can't lost my time. Sorry... So back to Gimp-2.6. I compiled it on Debian Testing/Wheezy (after downgrading gegl and babl) and it works well. This is very annoying. It would be nice to recover ergonomics and traditional functions save and save as in Gimp-2.8. At least give the user the choice Thanks for your work. Best regards Maderios ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 11.08.2012 22:51, maderios wrote: Hi No repetitive task (happily !). I create images. It's just art... Ex, I need to edit and save many versions of the same image. I use different format, png, xcf, jpeg. That's why Gimp has become so complicated for me to use, compared to 2.6 But that would seem to be something the current systems is good for: - export any intermediate state to a different file and format - save in xcf to continue working on the image at a later time Regards, Michael -- Regards, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 08/11/2012 10:59 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: On 11.08.2012 22:51, maderios wrote: Hi No repetitive task (happily !). I create images. It's just art... Ex, I need to edit and save many versions of the same image. I use different format, png, xcf, jpeg. That's why Gimp has become so complicated for me to use, compared to 2.6 But that would seem to be something the current systems is good for: - export any intermediate state to a different file and format - save in xcf to continue working on the image at a later time This does not happen exactly like your description. I posted this message on Debian list: Save= save the same file (same name) after modifying this file Ex1: I open house.png, I change contrast, luminosity then I save it I use only one key to do it: s It takes 1/5 second Save as= save this file with another name, another extension Ex2: I open house.png, I change contrast, luminosity, I delete some details I don't like with rubber then save it under another name like house-2 because it's a different version. I use only one key to save it under house-2.png: u Ex3: I open house.png. I need .xcf version of this file to build a new image with layers, etc. I use only one key to save it under house.xcf: u Very quick and simple For me, export word is useless and confusing. Export to what? To jpeg, png, xcf, tiff ? It depends on the file where you start. You could start with a jpeg and want to export to .xcf, or the contrary Save as function is clear: only one key to use and you change only the extension or file name. It's the gimp-2.6 behavior. Regards M ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 11.08.12 at 23:19 maderios wrote: For me, export word is useless and confusing. Export to what? To jpeg, png, xcf, tiff ? It depends on the file where you start. You could start with a jpeg and want to export to .xcf, or the contrary Hi Maderios, the 'save and export' behaviour as been discussed at the mailing lists during the last months very widely and thoroughly. There's also an article about it at http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes. Please be so kind and check them first. Judging from the amount of postings to only this one topic I guess all your questions and concerns are answered there. Best regards, grafxuser ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
And judging from the number of people (myself included) who are still annoyed about it and asking for it to be put back the way it was, the questions and concerns are NOT being answered - unless you call telling people to just get used to it because thats how it is now a solution. The Gimp development team needs to listen, and listen carefully. This is a major change, and many people don't like it (yes, I know many do as well... but you've split the community, and thats the point I'm making). I have respect for open-source developers, but I also wonder how hard-nosed the developers would be if this was a paid application and a bunch of their paying customers started complaining about a divisive change. I hope they're not thinking that because they're not getting paid they can trample over half their user-base with impunity. I humbly ask that the developers please put it back the way it was, or at the very least have a legacy save option users can activate in the options so people like the original poster, myself and all the others who use Gimp regularly and hate this new save work-un-flow option can be happy again. My not-so-humble 2.5c (tax inclusive) Steve the 'save and export' behaviour as been discussed at the mailing lists during the last months very widely and thoroughly. There's also an article about it at http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes. Please be so kind and check them first. Judging from the amount of postings to only this one topic I guess all your questions and concerns are answered there. -- kiwi_steve (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
