Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8.22 is wacky

[Carol Spears]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Nate Owens  wrote:
>
> My problem regarding the difference between 2.8 and 2.6  was referenced in
> the original message regarding the inability to select the move tool in 2.8
> (which resulted in selection of the path tool instead of the move tool) I
> think that I adequately stated that that inability, present in 2.8
> functions as it should in 2.6
>
It used to be that when a guide is grabbed from the rulers, the tool
would change from whatever to the move tool.

That no longer happens.  I filed this bug report:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765023

I miss the old behavior very much.  I am undoing many unintentional
paint strokes now.

I console myself thinking that the developers have been pestered to
this unreasonable end by some nefarious and wrong thinking people.

carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[Partha Bagchi]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:16 PM, davitof  wrote:

> Me again :-)
>

> One last thing: Partha's installers load without crashing, but I can't use
> them
> because I don't see any readable character, only small rectangles in place
> of
> letters. This is a distinct issue, but this shows once again that different
> installers from the standard gimp installer seem to work.
>
> OK, so now I have a fallback solution: use Gimp Portable. But I still
> don't know
> what the original problem was, and I'd rather use a standard installation.
>

My builds provide a logfile when they run. Can you send that to me?

The logfile is located in your $TEMP folder and is called
__gimpun-2.8-run.log (or similar). Your $TEMP folder is usually
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Temp

You can contacted me at the email address on my website.

Thanks,
Partha
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[Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[davitof]

Missing points in my first post: 

Windows 10 Family 64 bits
Asus UX303UA
Intel Core i5-6200U
8 GB RAM

I checked with official Gimp versions 2.8.16, 2.8.18, 2.8.20, 2.8.22.

Gimp worked flawlessly until 2.8.20. I installed 2.8.22 on May 18, did
successfully a first load without any image then I decided that I wanted to
change the theme so I downloaded a package of themes and tried the different
themes until I decided which one I preferred. Of course this meant closing and
opening Gimp many times and I never experienced any issue.

AFAICT, I last used Gimp successfully for image editing on may 15.

According to the Windows applications dialog, none of the applications above had
any upgrade since last time I used Gimp successfully (May 18).

According to Windows Update, there were Windows updates installed on May 16, 23
and 24.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[davitof]

Hello,

I am using Gimp on my Windows 10 laptop. Yesterday, when I started Gimp, after
an unusually long waiting time, I got a Windows Error dialog:

Runtime Error! C:\(...)gimp-2.8.exe. This application has requested the Runtime
to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team
for more information.

Then Windows tells me he most close Gimp.

In the Windows Event list, I find this (sorry, I am using a French version of
WIndows):

Nom de l’application défaillante gimp-2.8.exe, version : 2.8.22.0, horodatage :
0x00c9b800
Nom du module défaillant : libcairo-2.dll, version : 0.0.0.0, horodatage :
0x654702b7
Code d’exception : 0x4015
Décalage d’erreur : 0x000acd52
ID du processus défaillant : 0x3d60
Heure de début de l’application défaillante : 0x01d2d560fa2a4fa1
Chemin d’accès de l’application défaillante : C:\Program Files\GIMP
2\bin\gimp-2.8.exe
Chemin d’accès du module défaillant: C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\bin\libcairo-2.dll
ID de rapport : 8c484136-5ca3-4047-8cc6-4dc1d3e68c22
Nom complet du package défaillant : 
ID de l’application relative au package défaillant : 

My first idea was to uninstall and reinstall Gimp. Same result. Then I
uninstalled Gimp again and tried to reinstall older versions: 2.8.20, 2.8.18 and
2.8.16 gave the same crash.

I did a little research on the Internet and I found something about conflicting
installations and libintl-8.dll. So I searched for all occurrences of
libintl-8.dll and of and renamed the app folders of all except Gimp (avidemux,
Clementine, GtkSharp, KDiff, LG Electronics, Poedit, Virtaal, Raw Therapee,
Shotcut), but I still get the same crash. Now I realize that under Windows 10,
this proves nothing, I can still run those applications even with renamed
folders.

Of course, I could completely uninstall all those apps, but if there is a
simpler and less radical way to solve my issue, I'd rather use it first!

Does any one have a suggestion how I could make Gimp work again?

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8.22 is wacky

[Nate Owens]

This thread is about the statement that there was no such function in Gimp,
and the request that I provide a link to the mention of this in the Gimp
manual, which I provided.

My problem regarding the difference between 2.8 and 2.6  was referenced in
the original message regarding the inability to select the move tool in 2.8
(which resulted in selection of the path tool instead of the move tool) I
think that I adequately stated that that inability, present in 2.8
functions as it should in 2.6

Seems that perhaps those coding Gimp are probably not the ones who coded
the earlier versions, or apparently are unaware for some reason of the
functions or the content of the manual.

I can only tell how it works for me - I select the tools the same way in
both versions, with the results as described
For those reasons, I am using 2.6 as the version that functions for me

Not sure I can explain it any better than this

*Nate Owens*
www.nateowens.com
nateowen...@gmail.com



On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:

> On 05/26/2017 06:05 AM, Nate Owens wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Michael Schumacher
> >  wrote:
>
> >> Align to path? Not sure if I'm following... can you provide the URL
> >> of its page in the user manual?
> >>
> >>
> >> P.S. as you've now got 2.6.12 again, can you check if you had
> >> remebered the following correctly?
> >>
> >>> you could *choose the baseline for the path*, even run it along a
> >>> circle Then you could save or export the results cleanly as xcf
> >>> or other formats
>
> > *Text ALONG path url* =
> > https://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-text.html scroll down. Scroll
> > down there is also an image demonstrating it's position in the Layer
> > menu selection
>
> Ok, so we are referring to the same functionality.
>
> I'm not aware of any significant functional differences between 2.6 and
> 2.8.
>
> Is this thread about not finding how to do this, because UI locations
> have been changed?
>
>
> --
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> Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Cropping

[Michael Schumacher]

On 05/26/2017 02:07 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

> also when describing a problem, using the wrong terms leads to incorrect
> assumptions for those attempting to provide you a solution.

At least some of those attempting to provide a solution have a pretty
good idea what the task is about, are also GIMP developers and don't
think these interruptions are overly helpful.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Cropping

[Patrick Shanahan]

* SayCheeze  [05-26-17 07:54]:
> >* SayCheeze  [05-25-17 21:07]:
> >Maybe you should rethink.  dpi is a printer term, not a quality term
> >for
> >an image.  dpi represents the number of ink dots a printer places on
> >paper.  pixels per inch would be a measure of quality of an image.
> 
> Sure,,, I understand that.  My lab, who is a printer requires 200 dpi.  

from their printers which *they* control, not you.  an image does not
present dots per inch and you cannot give them something not existing.  if
you/they are actually referring to pixels, ppi, use the correct term and
use it to describe the crop area of the image.  that capability *is*
provided by gimp and will lead you to less confusion.

also when describing a problem, using the wrong terms leads to incorrect
assumptions for those attempting to provide you a solution.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Cropping

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Rick Strong  [05-26-17 01:39]:
> This is splitting hairs.
> DPI is the term used by professional graphic designers when speccing for
> print reproduction, even though the "dots" in DPI may be made up of clusters
> of pixels. It harkens back to linescreens.
> 
> Rick S.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Patrick Shanahan
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:41 PM
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Cropping
> ...
> 
> >My day to day work for prints for homes is 200 dpi.
> 
> Maybe you should rethink.  dpi is a printer term, not a quality term for
> an image.  dpi represents the number of ink dots a printer places on
> paper.  pixels per inch would be a measure of quality of an image.
> -- 
> (paka)Patrick Shanahan   Plainfield, Indiana, USA


then perhaps you should describe using correct terms so understanding is
more definitive.  even adobe now uses the correct terms when describing
cropping on their web-site.

and then users incorrectly describing their problems would have a better
understanding and start providing better descriptions leading to better
and/or more precise solutions.

a white horse is not black even though it is just the hair, or could that
be called splitting

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[Gimp-user] Help with Cropping

[SayCheeze]

>* SayCheeze  [05-25-17 21:07]:
>Maybe you should rethink.  dpi is a printer term, not a quality term
>for
>an image.  dpi represents the number of ink dots a printer places on
>paper.  pixels per inch would be a measure of quality of an image.

Sure,,, I understand that.  My lab, who is a printer requires 200 dpi.  

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8.22 is wacky

[Ofnuts]

On 05/26/17 07:07, Steve Kinney wrote:

  A big deficiency in the
Scale, Rotate, Shear and Perspective tools when applied to paths, is
that they present a draggable grid the size of the whole image canvas,
not a box around the currently active path.  But they do work.
I trick I often use is to link the path and some layer (often, the layer 
I used to create the path), and apply the transform tool using the layer.

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