Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
I adopted the solution proposed by the devs and stopped using it altogether :o) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
@ Prokoudine: Dude, if you didn't act so full of yourself, so self-righteous and so haughty, half of these discussions wouldn't last half as long as they do. *You're a troll feeding other trolls* and thus you too are stoking the fire of these inane, pointless, never-ending arguments, because we all know the #1 rule about trolls is DON'T FEED THE TROLL. Signed: the helpful troll P.D.: In this message, I don't say a single word about export behavior. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote: To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 21:41:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:16:07 -0800, Richard wrote: Sure, RTF supports many of THE most commonly used text editing features (bold/italic/underline, tabs/indents/spacing, font face/size/color) but it doesn't support many advanced Word features (widow/orphan control, footnotes, column layouts, etc.) and if you are relying on a document that involves those features will Word inform you that your target file format is not sufficient for what you are trying to save? Or will it just silently assume your document doesn't care about those features and save what it can, effectively discarding those features when you close out your session? You're actually wrong - RTF supports at least everything that Word 2003 supports - including styles, paragraph settings, columns, footnotes etc. You will get a warning if you try to save as OpenDocument though (and at least in Word 2013, the document layout may change to reflect that). *shrugs* Okay, it has been awhile since I looked at the RTF official, beyond that I am only aware of what gets exposed through the editor. And I don't use RTF for anything complex so I've almost never actually bumped into its limitations. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Crew wrote: On 14/06/2013 19:06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: As a Linux user, I don't have tons of image editors to try. But hey, I'm quite ready to believe that most of them are doing it wrong:) Right I see now. I write for Linux I don't need to conform to user requirements, I know better You are not users, Paul. You are a user. Singular noun, not a plural noun. Excuse me, Alexandre, but you're being DISMISSIVE AS HELL here. No matter how big your love for the project, swashbuckling rethoric, and your own ego, saying You're just an user, not users when people disagree with you by the bucketload, dismissing someone because oh you're just one! is called BEING ARROGANT. ARROGANT. ARROGANT. ARROGANT. I know typing it three more times won't allow you to wrap your head around it, but what the hell. I'm not saying this guy is right, but your holier than thou attitude is corrosive and self-satisfied. You probably think it's charismatic or something. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Psiweapon wrote: Excuse me, Alexandre, but you're being DISMISSIVE AS HELL here. Yes, I am. I'm not saying this guy is right, but your holier than thou attitude is corrosive and self-satisfied. Oh, not holier :) Just smarter. And I can prove that. Are you sure? I'm not saying you're not, but you'd need *his *credentials too to prove that. Oh, and being smarter doesn't make you a better person. Your smarter than you is still corrosive and self-satisfied. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Psiweapon wrote: I'm not saying this guy is right, but your holier than thou attitude is corrosive and self-satisfied. Oh, not holier :) Just smarter. And I can prove that. Are you sure? I'm not saying you're not, but you'd need *his *credentials too to prove that. Yeah, I'm working on that :) Now that sounds horribly underhanded. Oh, and being smarter doesn't make you a better person. Your smarter than you is still corrosive and self-satisfied. You see, I never claimed to be a good person. I'm not even remotely interested in looking like one. Your lack of interest and claim on the issue doesn't make it any less of a shortcoming. Hey, wait. I *am* acting holier than thou. My apologies :X So. You only take feedback from the elite? Honest question. I can understand that the extent of the *undying backlash* is probably a pain in the ass, although I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if it was completely beneath you... You just come across as some sort of self-appointed boyar, which I'd expect from a mainstream software corporate honcho - not from an open software big fish. *It's too bad I can't force quit a list thread like I can processes. At any rate this discussion is stale. Quit the whimpering and Alexandre enough of the attitude.* Okay. I'll shut up now. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
I don't want to be very offensive, but yes, *sometimes* it smells of elitism in here. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/01/2013 04:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM, darkweasel wrote: Am 2013-03-01 15:50, schrieb maderios: Translation : Only the elite need gimp, others just need to pay for normal but commercial editor... Greetings I do not understand it like that - did you actually check out darktable? Personally, I think that Daniel's suggestion to privately answer mails like that one was rather sensible ;-) You're true Alexandre... This list is reserved for the elite (end off trolling) Regards -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) __**_ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
I'm... actually confident that I will :) On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to hear about that, Psiweapon. Perhaps eventually you'll see it differently. Alexandre ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
Pt didn't they sell any higher horses on the cattle fair? On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.comwrote: * Psiweapon psiwea...@gmail.com [03-01-13 10:35]: I don't want to be very offensive, but yes, *sometimes* it smells of elitism in here. don't look now, but your post: You have top posted You have fully quoted irrelevant materal You hve post html, email is *text* You are trolling -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.orgPhoto Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
Heh, I've mostly adapted to the new ways - PRAISE BE TO OUR SAVIOR THE EXPORT COMMAND! I AM NO LONGER A HEATHEN BROTHERS! but it's still *very fun *to see this Smug Developers Vs. The Stupid Backlash that Wouldn't Die movie franchise unfold in countless installments. My main problem with the export faith is that now, one does not simply overwrite into a PNG image after enabling transparency. But what can I do, if I'm just a body among the ignorant, unwashed masses, upon which the glory of the Gimp shines, without ever being able to completely grasp its radiant holyness? PRAISE BE TO THE EXPORT COMMAND! FOR IT IS CODED THAT THROUGH THE EXPORT COMMAND IS THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT, SALVATION AND PHOTO EDITING! I have been proven willing to use the holy export command, and thus worthy of the heavenly gift that main branch Gimp is! But to lose patience against a powerless, trickling ragtag bunch of trolls, not only ignorant and unwashed but UNFAITHFUL, and in ill will refusing to accept the good news and renewing ways of the HOLY EXPORT COMMAND? That sure is a sign of a faltering faith. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.orgwrote: Burlen Loring blor...@lbl.gov writes: I'm sure the author(s) feels that it's the best thing since sliced bread, however, differentiating between save and export in newer gimp is a ridiculous waste of time. it's so annoying and in efficient that I feel the need to chime in against it and strongly hope this change will be reversed in a future release. The GIMP developers have stated that they are not reverting the change. Your options are: 1) learn the new way 2) use this plugin which implements the old way within GIMP: http://www.shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/ 3) use the GIMP fork GIMB which reverts the change completely: https://github.com/mardy/gimb -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
lmao On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Daniel Hornung wrote: I can't believe this was not brought up by someone already... https://xkcd.com/1172/ (Or my mail search function is broken, which is possible) It is broken. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Grayscale and alpha layers
Is there any way I can directly make a grayscale image into an alpha transparency channel? I mean, NOT involving selection? Because selection by color to layer mask, is really fucking up what I need to do thanks to the selection threshold. Why is it damn easy to turn an alpha channel into a grayscale image but not the reverse? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] File format question
Hey there, I'm a newcomer, although I've been using Gimp for some years now (nothing advanced though) Exactly WHY or WHO the HELL thought it was a good idea to leave common image formats (.png, .gif, etc.) out of the save menu in 2.8 Was this decision taken because of legal issues, politicky crap, too much vodka, or what the fuck? Could anybody enlighten me, please? Thank you for your time. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] File format question
Hey thanks for the link! I think I understood it. It's elitist, politicky crap, although an excess of vodka can't be ruled out with current evidence. I guess I'll be adding my transparencies with Graphics Gale unless I totally need to use a RGB PNG for partial transparencies or whatever. Good going for gimp, that move is very low-end user friendly. I guess the developers that introduced that now feel all special and 1337, with their program *officially importing *standard formats - also adds a lot of flexibility. The you can't use this dialog anymore, go through the service door you loser is also really helpful and fun. Thanks for your time! On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Christen Anderson christenanderson1...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/9/2012 9:05 AM, Psiweapon wrote: Hey there, I'm a newcomer, although I've been using Gimp for some years now (nothing advanced though) Exactly WHY or WHO the HELL thought it was a good idea to leave common image formats (.png, .gif, etc.) out of the save menu in 2.8 Was this decision taken because of legal issues, politicky crap, too much vodka, or what the fuck? Could anybody enlighten me, please? Thank you for your time. http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification -- Behind the Feather Curtain https://feathercurtain.wordpress.com/ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] File format question
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Psiweapon psiwea...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'll pass, but do feel free to boot me the hell out of here. It's not like I'm a full-time troll, but seriously, that change is totally ass-backwards. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Psiweapon wrote: Hey thanks for the link! I think I understood it. It's elitist, politicky crap, although an excess of vodka can't be ruled out with current evidence. Dear Psiweapon, I'd like to introduce you to good manners. Would you please accept my invitation? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
