Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:03 AM, billn wrote: BABL has been on the drawing board since 2008? 6 years and still not a no go for a stable Gimp 2.10 release. Changing Gimp license may be faster than waiting another 3-5 years for a stable BABL so Gimp can use better open source tools. Are you

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:03 AM, billn wrote: BABL has been on the drawing board since 2008? 6 years and still not a no go for a stable Gimp 2.10 release. Changing Gimp license may be faster than waiting another 3-5 years for a

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 02:15 AM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Elle Stone ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com wrote: if the other babl/GEGL/GIMP developers really are in agreement with Jon Nordby (the babl roadmap leaves room for differing interpretations), then there is no reason

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 04:56 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:03 AM, billn wrote: BABL has been on the drawing board since 2008? 6 years and still not a no go for a stable Gimp 2.10 release. Changing Gimp license may be faster than waiting another 3-5 years for a stable BABL so

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Elle Stone Really there is only one developer who's current stance on unbounded sRGB seems a little unclear. Or there is one time-thief that continues to not understand what a PCS is in a color management system, what implementation details mean; which is

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 09:04 AM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: I have spent hundreds of hours more on babl/GEGL this year than I intended, most of them on unproductive arguments on mailinglists, a medium I not well suited for clearing up misunderstandings I agree with you 100% that you shouldn't waste your time

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Elle Stone but you refuse to spend time where the developers normally clear up misunderstandings, reach consensus and make plans; on IRC. As you well know, I did try discussing unbounded sRGB with you on IRC. On IRC you felt free to issue personal insults.

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Simon Budig
Hi Pippin, Hi Elle. I know that i am not really a neutral party in this dispute, but I'll try anyways? WILL YOU TWO PLEASE STOP FIGHTING? Neither is Elle in the position to tell pippin what he is supposed to work on, nor is pippin right when he holds Elle responsible for the time he decided to

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 11:08 AM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Elle Stone but you refuse to spend time where the developers normally clear up misunderstandings, reach consensus and make plans; on IRC. As you well know, I did try discussing unbounded sRGB with you on IRC. On IRC

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 11:21 AM, Simon Budig wrote: Hi Pippin, Hi Elle. I know that i am not really a neutral party in this dispute, but I'll try anyways? WILL YOU TWO PLEASE STOP FIGHTING? Neither is Elle in the position to tell pippin what he is supposed to work on, nor is pippin right when he holds

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Elle Stone ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com wrote: My apologies, I don't understand what you are trying to say. Can you give links to specific mailing list threads? Are you perhaps again saying that my yellow flower image is a corner case and therefore it's OK to

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
14 нояб. 2014 г. 19:47 пользователь Øyvind Kolås pip...@gimp.org написал: You are quoting later venting of frustration with your later walls of text on the mailinglists questioning and demanding answers for every single little detail before details even exist. Øyvind, having a last say in

Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL

2014-11-14 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/14/2014 12:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: 14 нояб. 2014 г. 19:47 пользователь Øyvind Kolås pip...@gimp.org написал: You are quoting later venting of frustration with your later walls of text on the mailinglists questioning and demanding answers for every single little detail before