[Gimp-user] GIMP for Windows

[Josh Nay]

HI all,

I'm a Windows 10 S user. I would like to see GIMP in the Microsoft Store so 
that we can use it instead of Photoshop and other apps already in the store. 
Since GIMP now allows for one-screen use and can be converted using the various 
bridges, I don't know if this would be a huge undertaking.

It would also help take some of the pressure (however large or small it is) off 
of the GIMP.org servers when using direct download, since all updates and 
downloads would be managed through the Microsoft Store. In addition, it will 
ensure that computer registries are not tampered with, keeping the computer 
fast.

I hope we'll be able to use GIMP from the Microsoft Store soon. As a user and 
contributor for GiMP for over ten years, it's one of those apps I really want 
to see.

Thank you for your time.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[mgroothuis]

>On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Casey Connor
>
>to the OP.
>
>Sorry for the trouble you are having. Typically this has to do with
>all
>kinds of DLLs dumped in your personal folders by plugins.
>
>In any case, I don't know why you are reinstalling G'MIC since it come
>pre-installed with my builds. My G'MIC builds are the latest based on
>my
>release date. I even mention this on my website.
>
>Well, let me know if you have trouble or good luck with your
>installation.
Thanks Partha. Yes I know GMIC is in your installer, but that too came up with
an error. So I am going back to scratch when I get the time and remove anything
that should no longer be there.Then the reinstallation and hoping things have
returned to normal.
Thanks for your input.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[Partha Bagchi]

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:50 PM, mgroothuis  wrote:

> >Can you tell me what problems you've had? Did you reach out to me with
> >your
> >issues?
> No I did not contact you because I was sure it was my system setup that
> caused
> the hassle. I could never use your installs without having to rego all the
> settings again. With the gimp.org installs it was simply one click and I
> was on
> my way again. I have installed 2.9.5 now and have run into g'mic problems
> with
> gmic-gimp.exe causing an error on startup. I have removed gmic completely
> and
> reinstalled it, but there must be an old reference floating about
> somewhere as I
> can still not use it. Will do a complete reinstall of 2.9.5 and g'mic today
> after a registry cleanout and see if that makes a difference. (I had
> installed
> the gtk version which worked once,then decided to try the QTversion and
> that is
> where the problem began). At least I have been able to install a version >
> than
> 2.9.2. I still have 2.8.20 as well, perhaps that is causing a problem?
>

Sorry for the trouble you are having. Typically this has to do with all
kinds of DLLs dumped in your personal folders by plugins.

In any case, I don't know why you are reinstalling G'MIC since it come
pre-installed with my builds. My G'MIC builds are the latest based on my
release date. I even mention this on my website.

Well, let me know if you have trouble or good luck with your installation.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[mgroothuis]

>Can you tell me what problems you've had? Did you reach out to me with
>your
>issues?
No I did not contact you because I was sure it was my system setup that caused
the hassle. I could never use your installs without having to rego all the
settings again. With the gimp.org installs it was simply one click and I was on
my way again. I have installed 2.9.5 now and have run into g'mic problems with
gmic-gimp.exe causing an error on startup. I have removed gmic completely and
reinstalled it, but there must be an old reference floating about somewhere as I
can still not use it. Will do a complete reinstall of 2.9.5 and g'mic today
after a registry cleanout and see if that makes a difference. (I had installed
the gtk version which worked once,then decided to try the QTversion and that is
where the problem began). At least I have been able to install a version > than
2.9.2. I still have 2.8.20 as well, perhaps that is causing a problem?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[Partha Bagchi]

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:30 PM, mgroothuis  wrote:

> >On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Casey Connor
> > >
> >And if you have trouble with it, please let me know. :)
>
> Thank you, I will try there. In the past I have had problems with Partha's
> installs, no doubt caused by my computer setup, but I will give this a
> try. Do I
> need to uninstall version 2.9.2 or will that not cause any problems? I
> prefer to
> keep it, just in case something doesn't go as it should :-)
>
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>

Can you tell me what problems you've had? Did you reach out to me with your
issues?
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[mgroothuis]

>On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Casey Connor
>
>And if you have trouble with it, please let me know. :)

Thank you, I will try there. In the past I have had problems with Partha's
installs, no doubt caused by my computer setup, but I will give this a try. Do I
need to uninstall version 2.9.2 or will that not cause any problems? I prefer to
keep it, just in case something doesn't go as it should :-)

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.9.4 windows installer

[mgroothuis]

Gimp 2.9.4 has been out for a while now but nowhere can I find a link to a
64-bit windows installer for that release. I know it is unstable, but I would
still like to play with it. I have version 2.9.2 which was/is hosted somewhere,
but try as I might I run into walls for 2.9.4. Any links would be greatly
appreciated.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp and Windows 10

[Bridgemaster]

>Lately I have found that my Gimp copy, 2.8.16, will not run full
>screen. Splash screen opens on start and appears to load correctly but
>Gimp screen can only be seen minimised in the taskbar.
>
>Tried so far: All the Googled "this will fix it" advice.
>Re-installing Gimp.
>
>Apart from "do not use Windows" does anyone have any ideas.
>
>All my other applications display and run full screen.

EDIT:
Sorry, as usual pilot error. I have a multi-screen setup and Gimp was residing
on a less than visible screen. I know sounds like an oxymoron but it's not worth
the explanation!

Took 2 days to find(stumble across)...old age rears it's ugly head.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp and Windows 10

[Bridgemaster]

Lately I have found that my Gimp copy, 2.8.16, will not run full screen. Splash
screen opens on start and appears to load correctly but Gimp screen can only be
seen minimised in the taskbar.

Tried so far: All the Googled "this will fix it" advice.
Re-installing Gimp.

Apart from "do not use Windows" does anyone have any ideas.

All my other applications display and run full screen.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8.14 Windows version

[EDGAR GARCIA]

Hello friends, 

 

I have installed the GIMP 2.8.14 Windows version. 

I intend to inform me the following: 

1) I need clear written text, a photo web. 

2) what are the features of menu should I use? 

 

I appreciate the support. 

 

EDAGA

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[batman42ca]

This has gone WAY off topic. To get back on topic, now it takes at least half an
hour for GIMP to start up for me. I can think of nothing that has changed since
the time when it only took 2 minutes to start up every time. Now it's almost as
if the process of querying every plugin at start up, has to wait for each query
to time out. I uninstalled and re-installed GIMP but it didn't have any effect.

Any idea when there will be a new release? I'd like to use GIMP but I just can't
with such a long delay at start up.

I just started using GIMP. I like it so far but this query of plugins
at startup bug takes about 2 minutes every single time I start up
GIMP. I hope there is a fix for it soon.

I'm running Windows XP with GIMP 2.8.6

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

physoc for...@gimpusers.com writes:

physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?

Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
software makes a lot of sense.

Bye,
Simon

 Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on 
 GIMPUSERS.comat
 www.getgimp.com

Would trademarking help with getting rid of these dubious sites?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

On 18.08.2013 02:54, Ofnuts wrote:
 On 08/17/2013 09:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
 crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.
 This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
 use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
 sites, not the download at gimpforums.*


 I think you mean GimpUsers.*. AFAIK there are no ads on GimpForums.

Yes, I'm starting to confuse all these sites myself. Maybe this means
that there are too many already?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Burnie West]

On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:

I believe it to be a bad idea that mails fromfor...@gimpusers.com  are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.

+1

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[John Meyer]

On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:

On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:

I believe it to be a bad idea that mails fromfor...@gimpusers.com  are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.

+1




Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of 
crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.




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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 17.08.2013 20:40, schrieb John Meyer:
 On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:
 On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
 I believe it to be a bad idea that mails fromfor...@gimpusers.com  are
 allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.
 +1

 Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
 crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.

This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
sites, not the download at gimpforums.*


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[John Meyer]

My mistake.  Still, a redirector on that site is pointing to a download 
with additional software.


On 8/17/2013 1:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Am 17.08.2013 20:40, schrieb John Meyer:

On 8/17/2013 12:41 PM, Burnie West wrote:

On 08/16/2013 11:31 AM, Simon Budig wrote:

I believe it to be a bad idea that mails fromfor...@gimpusers.com  are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.

+1

Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.

This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
sites, not the download at gimpforums.*




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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Ofnuts]

On 08/17/2013 09:01 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Especially if the gimp that gimpusers is installing includes a bunch of
crudware and the customer's think that we're technical support for that.

This is a misleading statement. Please re-read what I wrote about their
use of ad services. It's the ad banners that point people to dubious
sites, not the download at gimpforums.*



I think you mean GimpUsers.*. AFAIK there are no ads on GimpForums.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[physoc]

I just started using GIMP. I like it so far but this query of plugins
at startup bug takes about 2 minutes every single time I start up
GIMP. I hope there is a fix for it soon.

I'm running Widows XP with GIMP 2.8.6

I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been unable to
get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins' in the 'Startup'
routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it skips across the previous
plugin .exe but then hangs at the next one. After ten-minutes of closing/
running/ hanging.etc., I gave-up!
Free software is fine if it works, if it doesn't it's just a few deleted bits
in the Recycle Bin

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[physoc]

I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been
unable to get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins'
in the 'Startup' routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it
skips across the previous plugin .exe but then hangs at the next one.
After ten-minutes of closing/ running/ hanging.etc., I gave-up!
Free software is fine if it works, if it doesn't it's just a few
deleted bits in the Recycle Bin

OK, problem identified and fixed. My problem was with ZONE ALARM firewall
settings. It required GIMP access to be set manually to allow internet access.
This maybe what is causing the problem with others. Check any firewall settings.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr]

On 08/16/13 08:17, physoc wrote:

I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been
unable to get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins'
in the 'Startup' routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it
skips across the previous plugin .exe but then hangs at the next one.
After ten-minutes of closing/ running/ hanging.etc., I gave-up!
Free software is fine if it works, if it doesn't it's just a few
deleted bits in the Recycle Bin


OK, problem identified and fixed. My problem was with ZONE ALARM firewall
settings. It required GIMP access to be set manually to allow internet access.
This maybe what is causing the problem with others. Check any firewall settings.



I've ran Zone Alarm and it shouldn't be interfering with The GIMP 
starting up (especially since, afaik, The GIMP doesn't need the Internet 
to work).


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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[physoc]

I've ran Zone Alarm and it shouldn't be interfering with The GIMP 
starting up (especially since, afaik, The GIMP doesn't need the
Internet
to work).

Well the issue is academic now as, once GIMP ran and I tried it, it got
uninstalled asap. Originally installed because a 'photo magazine described it as
'the closest thing to Photoshop you'll find'. I guess the reviewer was taking
some substance or alcohol...! I often find that these open-source applications
attract a certain type of geek who are more interested in the development of
software rather than the practical use of the program to the end user. As an
'end user' I rate GIMP as next to useless.

The banner at the bottom of the GIMP webpage reads ' Why pay for Photo Editing
Software?' Why, because the 'end user'  wants something that works properly and
has an intuitive GUI. As far as I can see GIMP falls-over in both respects.

I shall use Lightroom 5. I pay, but I'm happy.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Pat David]

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM, physoc for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 Why, because the 'end user'  wants something that works properly and
  has an intuitive GUI


Why, because the 'end user' wants something that works properly and has an
intuitive GUI **compared to what they already know and are familiar with**.

Fixed that for ya.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Andrew Bridget]

Well the issue is academic now as, once GIMP ran and I tried it, it got
uninstalled asap. Originally installed because a 'photo magazine described it as
'the closest thing to Photoshop you'll find'. I guess the reviewer was taking
some substance or alcohol...! I often find that these open-source applications
attract a certain type of geek who are more interested in the development of
software rather than the practical use of the program to the end user. As an
'end user' I rate GIMP as next to useless.


I would really be interested in why you think GIMP is 'useless'.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Simon Budig]

Michael Schumacher (schum...@gmx.de) wrote:
 From: Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com
 
  If that's the case I think you should discuss it with gimp-developer
 list. 
  
 But please come prepared - the Zonealarm developers should be able to
 tell why this is happening, please ask them.  They have access to both
 GIMP's source code and their own.

Also please be aware that there are installers out there that bundle
malware together with Gimp. Make sure that yours is not one of these.

Bye,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Simon Budig]

physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
 The banner at the bottom of the GIMP webpage reads ' Why pay for Photo
 Editing Software?'

Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?

Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
software makes a lot of sense.

Bye,
Simon

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Madeleine Fisher]

I actually use GIMP to make my webcomic weekly. I don't think it's useless.
I just had to learn it--same as any other software.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[physoc]

physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?

Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
software makes a lot of sense.

Bye,
Simon

Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on GIMPUSERS.comat
www.getgimp.com

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Pat David]

I feel that perhaps you may be a bit misguided in your interpretation of
GIMP.

There are plenty of us who use it daily for high end photographic
retouching and editing.  Like most things worth using, it may take a little
time to become accustomed to the methods and interface.  Being initially
confusing to you doesn't necessarily make it any less of a program in terms
of capability or performance.

GIMP is aimed at raster image manipulation.  It is more than capable for
the just about any photo editing you may want to do (with few exceptions).
 I personally am willing to guess that it will do anything you personally
need to do in Ps.

GIMP will not read RAW files directly, but neither will Ps, just FYI.  Ps
uses Adobe Camera RAW to first 'develop' the image, then passes it to Ps
for editing.  In the same way, GIMP can use a RAW processor to first
develop the image, then open it (of course, you have a nice choice of RAW
processors to choose from in the F/OSS world).

btw, if you are not actually developing your RAW files in ACR first, you're
already losing a huge chunk of control right out of the gate.  Seriously.

For instance, my own workflow has me opening/editing RAW files in
RawTherapee, which I then pass directly (and easily) into my GIMP sessions.

If it helps, I personally write tutorials specifically targeted at GIMP for
photographic retouching/editing.  Perhaps walking through a couple of
tutorials may help you wrap your head around the concepts that are
different than what you might be used to?

http://blog.patdavid.net/p/getting-around-in-gimp.html

Also, I might suggest looking into a different location for downloading
your version of GIMP.  Partha has builds that include many useful
photographic plugins/scripts that may help your workflow out as well:

http://www.partha.com/


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM, physoc for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 I would really be interested in why you think GIMP is 'useless'.

 Well mainly because it won't load my Nikon RAW files.
 My impression is that it's aimed, not at 'photo editing but rather bitmap
 graphics. See the comment about 'webcomic' on the thread.
 But this aside I was disappointed given the comment in the multi-page
 feature in
 What Digital Camera magazine that seemed to imply that it was a comparable
 product to Photoshop.

 I was a bit unkind about geeks and open-source applications. I use
 OpenOffice
 and I'm very pleased with it. But OpenOpffice, unlike GIMP, does provide a
 professional 'Office' look-alike experience. And I think that is what I was
 hoping for with GIMP, but didn't get. OK, not 'useless', but of no use to
 me, is
 a more accurate comment.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

On 16.08.2013 19:57, physoc wrote:
 physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
 Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?

 Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
 certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
 software makes a lot of sense.

 Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on 
 GIMPUSERS.comat
 www.getgimp.com

Yep, this is some dubious download site. Note the launches
DownloadAdmin™, which will mange your installation process. in that
site's fine print, that means that you can be tricked into installing
potentially malicious software alongside GIMP.


By using ad services that have such occasional ad banners  which point
to such scams, gimpusers.com - itself being a third-party site - does
unfortunately contribute to that confusion. Maybe they should find a way
to weed those out.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Simon Budig]

physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
 physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
 Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
 
 Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
 certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
 software makes a lot of sense.
 
 Bye,
 Simon
 
 Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on 
 GIMPUSERS.comat

Note that gimpusers.com adds to the confusion, since they're channeling
posts to the gimp-user mailinglist (which is what I reacted to). So for
me there is no this very page, since I am reading this in a text
terminal.

I believe it to be a bad idea that mails from for...@gimpusers.com are
allowed on this mailinglist, it just confuses things.

Bye,
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[physoc]

Thanks for the extensive reply and tips. I may try again in a week or two when
I've 'recovered' from the initial setback and frustration, and who knows I may
find that I've been totally wrong in my impression of usefulness.
Regards, Tony

I feel that perhaps you may be a bit misguided in your interpretation
of
GIMP.

There are plenty of us who use it daily for high end photographic
retouching and editing.  Like most things worth using, it may take a
little
time to become accustomed to the methods and interface.  Being
initially
confusing to you doesn't necessarily make it any less of a program in
terms
of capability or performance.

GIMP is aimed at raster image manipulation.  It is more than capable
for
the just about any photo editing you may want to do (with few
exceptions).
I personally am willing to guess that it will do anything you
personally
need to do in Ps.

GIMP will not read RAW files directly, but neither will Ps, just FYI. 
Ps
uses Adobe Camera RAW to first 'develop' the image, then passes it to
Ps
for editing.  In the same way, GIMP can use a RAW processor to first
develop the image, then open it (of course, you have a nice choice of
RAW
processors to choose from in the F/OSS world).

btw, if you are not actually developing your RAW files in ACR first,
you're
already losing a huge chunk of control right out of the gate. 
Seriously.

For instance, my own workflow has me opening/editing RAW files in
RawTherapee, which I then pass directly (and easily) into my GIMP
sessions.

If it helps, I personally write tutorials specifically targeted at
GIMP for
photographic retouching/editing.  Perhaps walking through a couple of
tutorials may help you wrap your head around the concepts that are
different than what you might be used to?

http://blog.patdavid.net/p/getting-around-in-gimp.html

Also, I might suggest looking into a different location for
downloading
your version of GIMP.  Partha has builds that include many useful
photographic plugins/scripts that may help your workflow out as well:

http://www.partha.com/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Pat David]

When you do get around to trying it again, please don't hesitate to drop
back in and ask any questions.  I'd be happy to help where I can!


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, physoc for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 Thanks for the extensive reply and tips. I may try again in a week or two
 when
 I've 'recovered' from the initial setback and frustration, and who knows I
 may
 find that I've been totally wrong in my impression of usefulness.
 Regards, Tony

 I feel that perhaps you may be a bit misguided in your interpretation
 of
 GIMP.
 
 There are plenty of us who use it daily for high end photographic
 retouching and editing.  Like most things worth using, it may take a
 little
 time to become accustomed to the methods and interface.  Being
 initially
 confusing to you doesn't necessarily make it any less of a program in
 terms
 of capability or performance.
 
 GIMP is aimed at raster image manipulation.  It is more than capable
 for
 the just about any photo editing you may want to do (with few
 exceptions).
 I personally am willing to guess that it will do anything you
 personally
 need to do in Ps.
 
 GIMP will not read RAW files directly, but neither will Ps, just FYI.
 Ps
 uses Adobe Camera RAW to first 'develop' the image, then passes it to
 Ps
 for editing.  In the same way, GIMP can use a RAW processor to first
 develop the image, then open it (of course, you have a nice choice of
 RAW
 processors to choose from in the F/OSS world).
 
 btw, if you are not actually developing your RAW files in ACR first,
 you're
 already losing a huge chunk of control right out of the gate.
 Seriously.
 
 For instance, my own workflow has me opening/editing RAW files in
 RawTherapee, which I then pass directly (and easily) into my GIMP
 sessions.
 
 If it helps, I personally write tutorials specifically targeted at
 GIMP for
 photographic retouching/editing.  Perhaps walking through a couple of
 tutorials may help you wrap your head around the concepts that are
 different than what you might be used to?
 
 http://blog.patdavid.net/p/getting-around-in-gimp.html
 
 Also, I might suggest looking into a different location for
 downloading
 your version of GIMP.  Partha has builds that include many useful
 photographic plugins/scripts that may help your workflow out as well:
 
 http://www.partha.com/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Kevin Cozens]

On 13-08-16 01:53 PM, physoc wrote:

Well mainly because it won't load my Nikon RAW files.


You need to install the UFraw or dcraw plug-ins for GIMP to load Nikon RAW 
files. I use dcraw and I have no problem with Nikon RAW files from my D3100.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Cristian Secară]

În data de Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:08:45 +0200, Michael Schumacher a scris:

  Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on
  GIMPUSERS.comat www.getgimp.com
 
 Yep, this is some dubious download site. Note the launches
 DownloadAdmin™, which will mange your installation process. in that
 site's fine print, that means that you can be tricked into installing
 potentially malicious software alongside GIMP.

Something is indeed dubious there.

If you click on the big download gimp, it will download a
gimp-setup.exe file which contains – among other things – some
LuaSocket related files. Lua language provides access to TCP, UDP, etc.
protocols. As GIMP has nothing to do with this, at least not at install
time, it is likely something spam-related, if not worse.

If you go at the bottom, click on About Us and then click the same big
download gimp, then it will download version 2.6.11 from Sourceforge.
Clearly they have a flaw in their own spam system :)

To summarize, best thing to do is to download GIMP from its official
site, which is http://www.gimp.org. A trusted alternative for Windows
version is to download the package from http://www.partha.com site,
which includes some plugins right from the start. Probably UFraw is
included, which helps you load your Nikon RAW files (this is just a
guess, you should check for yourself).

Cristi

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[batman42ca]

I just started using GIMP. I like it so far but this query of plugins at startup
bug takes about 2 minutes every single time I start up GIMP. I hope there is a
fix for it soon.

I'm running Widows XP with GIMP 2.8.6

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Jesse Pavel]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Jernej Simončič 
jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org wrote:

 This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.


Is this a bug in the code (say, in gimppluginmanager-restore.c or
thereabouts) that I could help with, or with the process for the 32-bit
build for Windows?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Ofnuts]

On 06/26/2013 10:54 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

On 26.06.2013 22:43, Kevin Payne wrote:

Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script 
writers with problems won't see their changes ignored:


http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=6486


Or, as an alternative, someone could report that problem as a proper 
bug. With a minimal sample script for the reviewers to try attached to 
it.




I have helped quite a few people writing their first python scripts, and 
once they know where to look/what to check, the problem vanishes...One 
of my scripts even abuses the registration procedure (it runs but 
doesn't register, so runs each time Gimp is started). So the whole thing 
works quite well and all problems I have seen have been with the user's 
system (or operating procedures).


I would even say it works too well... I have Python plugins that use a 
configuration file, and this configuration file will change things in 
the registration, but Gimp of course doesn't check the timestamp of the 
configuration file. It would be nice if the registration data could 
include a file to check the next time around...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

 Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com

 On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
  Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
 
  This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
 
  You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.

 Not true.

 amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still
 have the delay over multiple sessions.

Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform.
You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though.

 I don't really see it as buggy.

It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be one.

 If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the
 folders time-and-again.

If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about the caching 
based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was there previously and 
has been changed, its query() procedure will be run again. See 
http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html for a more detailed 
description of a plug-in's key procedures.

So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I wrote 
before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush through that stage.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr]

On 06/27/13 02:42, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com



On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:

Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:


This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into
it.


You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on
startup.



Not true.

amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and
still have the delay over multiple sessions.


Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform.
You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though.


Before (2.8.4) it was close to 15 seconds. I've not really counted 
though as I just go to another works-space and prepare something else or 
check FB or something.



I don't really see it as buggy.


It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be
one.


I know, just saying I didn't have a problem with it.


If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning
the folders time-and-again.


If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about
the caching based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was
there previously and has been changed, its query() procedure will be
run again. See http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html
for a more detailed description of a plug-in's key procedures.

So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I
wrote before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush
through that stage.


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Well, it seems to be the case now with the latest update 2.8.6 (e.g. it 
rushes through that step where before it never did). Because I used to 
that delay when I launched it after upgrading to 2.8.6 (admittedly only 
two launches since the update, but uncountable ones before) I would just 
launch and go do something else for a few moments while GIMP organized. 
After my last post to the list I had need to launch it again (to export 
some tif to jpg for use on Facebook) and paid attention and it just flew 
through like normal.


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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Jesse Pavel]

Hello,

Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
immediately queries all the plugins anyhow.

Looking at pluginrc, it seems that the UNIX timestamps (what I assume the
numbers like 1372230879 are) refer to the plugins' creation date, and seem
correct.

Have others been experiencing this?

Thanks,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Jesse Pavel jpa...@alum.mit.edu [06-26-13 02:22]:
 Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
 It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
 when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
 immediately queries all the plugins anyhow.
 [...]

To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug.  I am still on
2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr]

On 06/26/13 07:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Jesse Pavel jpa...@alum.mit.edu [06-26-13 02:22]:

Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
immediately queries all the plugins anyhow.

  [...]

To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug.  I am still on
2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start.



I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same 
experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded to 
2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal behavior 
yet again.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

 Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com

  To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
  loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
  platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug.  I am still on
  2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start.
 
 
 I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same 
 experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded to 
 2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal behavior 
 yet again.

Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that haven't 
changed, their modification time is compared to the cached values. The whole 
query is hardly noticeable on a modern system except on the first launch (and 
launches after an upgrade).


Regards,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Jesse Pavel]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.dewrote:

 Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that haven't
 changed, their modification time is compared to the cached values. The
 whole query is hardly noticeable on a modern system except on the first
 launch (and launches after an upgrade).


 Regards,
 Michael



Ah, indeed - I should have been more specific: 2.8.6 runs each plugin on
every startup to load the information for pluginsrc, as though it were a
new installation.

I've only tested 2.8.6 on Windows, but I'll try it out on Linux soon to see
if the same thing happens.

Best,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr]

On 06/26/13 09:40, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com



To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting,
irrespective of platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a
failing/bug.  I am still on 2.8.2 and it also does the check/load
at start.



I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same
experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded
to 2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal
behavior yet again.


Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that
haven't changed, their modification time is compared to the cached
values. The whole query is hardly noticeable on a modern system
except on the first launch (and launches after an upgrade).


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I have no idea what you're talking about. On every system I've ever put 
GIMP on in the 8 or so years I've used it, the start-up time is exactly 
the same no matter how many times I launch The GIMP, upgrades or not.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Jernej Simončič]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:21:15 -0400, Jesse Pavel wrote:

 Have others been experiencing this?

This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[scl]

Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:


This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.


You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.

Kind regards,

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Kevin Payne]

Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script writers with 
problems won't see their changes ignored:

http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=6486

Kevin



 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 From: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:11:11 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every   
 startup
 
 On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:21:15 -0400, Jesse Pavel wrote:
 
  Have others been experiencing this?
 
 This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Michael Schumacher]

On 26.06.2013 22:43, Kevin Payne wrote:


Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script writers with 
problems won't see their changes ignored:

http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=6486


Or, as an alternative, someone could report that problem as a proper 
bug. With a minimal sample script for the reviewers to try attached to it.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr]

On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:

Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:


This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.


You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.

Kind regards,

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Not true.

amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still 
have the delay over multiple sessions. I don't really see it as buggy. 
If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the 
folders time-and-again. Just my $2 worth.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Windows 8

[scl]

Hi,

more tablet support will be in the GTK3 port of GIMP, but that's future, 
after the current GEGL port.


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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 Windows 64-bit

[iLW]

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:36:18 +0200, iLW wrote:

 I also got the same problem. I uninstalled the previous version before. I am 
 running gimp 2.82. on windows 7 64-bit. Date and time of libtiff-3.dll is 
 Wednesday, ‎2 ‎September ‎2009, ‏‎3:43:50 PM. Remaining plugins dates are 
 all 2012. Maybe new version of libtiff-3.dll was not included in the windows 
 installer. Can you please upload the new version and post a link?

Delete libtiff-3.dll and then install GIMP again - this should install the
proper version.

It works now. Thanks a lot.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 Windows 64-bit

[iLW]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:31:20 +0200, swordfish1945 wrote:

 I get file-tiff-save.exe  file-tiff-load.exe Application Error when opening 
 Gimp 2.8.2 in windows 7 64-bit.
 The error: The application was unable to start correctly (0xc07b).
 Any fix for this?

That's strange - can you check the date and time of libtiff-3.dll in
C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\bin ?

I also got the same problem. I uninstalled the previous version before. I am 
running gimp 2.82. on windows 7 64-bit. Date and time of libtiff-3.dll is 
Wednesday, ‎2 ‎September ‎2009, ‏‎3:43:50 PM. Remaining plugins dates are all 
2012. Maybe new version of libtiff-3.dll was not included in the windows 
installer. Can you please upload the new version and post a link?

Thank you for your time.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 Windows 64-bit

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:36:18 +0200, iLW wrote:

 I also got the same problem. I uninstalled the previous version before. I am 
 running gimp 2.82. on windows 7 64-bit. Date and time of libtiff-3.dll is 
 Wednesday, ‎2 ‎September ‎2009, ‏‎3:43:50 PM. Remaining plugins dates are all 
 2012. Maybe new version of libtiff-3.dll was not included in the windows 
 installer. Can you please upload the new version and post a link?

Delete libtiff-3.dll and then install GIMP again - this should install the
proper version.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 Windows 64-bit

[Francois]

I get file-tiff-save.exe  file-tiff-load.exe Application Error when opening 
Gimp 2.8.2 in windows 7 64-bit.
The error: The application was unable to start correctly (0xc07b).
Any fix for this?
No, unfortunately. Always new bugs.
On my PC, the installer uninstalled the good old Gimp 2.6 32-bit instead of the 
previous 64-bit version.
Then I got error messages with Python.
On Linux very few bugs that appeared with 2.8 are fixed. Really a pity.
To me the only remedy would be to leave the weird and lunatic team that is now 
completely breaking Gimp and restart the development from version 2.6 with a 
new motivated and practical minded team.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 Windows 64-bit

[Jernej Simončič]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:31:20 +0200, swordfish1945 wrote:

 I get file-tiff-save.exe  file-tiff-load.exe Application Error when opening 
 Gimp 2.8.2 in windows 7 64-bit.
 The error: The application was unable to start correctly (0xc07b).
 Any fix for this?

That's strange - can you check the date and time of libtiff-3.dll in
C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\bin ?

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[Gimp-user] Gimp on Windows Crashes on Some Machines

[Robert Steinmetz]

I have installed GIMP on several Windows machines using the GIMP-win
installers. Some seem to work fine but at least one machine after a few
minutes of working with GIMP will close GIMP with the error:

Program: C:\Program Files\GIMP2\bin\gimp2.8exe
This application has requested Runtime to terminate in an unusual way

This error appears to be related to the Visual C++ Runtime  and seems to
be specific to the machine/configuration. I suspect that some dll's on
that particular machine are corrupt or something.

I have seen other reports of similar problems but I have not found any
solutions, or even a  general way to track it down. It was suggested
that this might be due to overloading the hardware, but I don't think
so. The hardware doesn't seem to be under a lot of load, for the simple
things I was doing when the error occurred. (basically retouching photos
using the eraser and airbrush).

Once we confirmed the problem I downloaded an installed a couple of
different windows builds with the same result.

I'd appreciate any help or pointers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Windows Crashes on Some Machines

[Jernej Simončič]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:18:52 -0400, Robert Steinmetz wrote:

 This error appears to be related to the Visual C++ Runtime  and seems to
 be specific to the machine/configuration. I suspect that some dll's on
 that particular machine are corrupt or something.

Check the display settings - there's a known problem if you're not using
32-bit color mode.

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[Gimp-user] gimp for windows(urgent)

[Paul Valley]

while I'm not sure how this happened a friend of mine is now trying to fix
his computer due to spamwear that was some how placed insied Gimp for
windows V2.8 the problem is he wont tell me the site he got it from

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