On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:35:06PM +0200, maderios wrote:
Print shops ask for png, jpeg or tiff, not psd
Maybe your consumer quick printer, not offset print shops that do
professional work. They want usually, PDF and/or PSD. PSD not being
their first choice.
Yep, and that's their right...
On 09/19/2012 05:44 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:35:06PM +0200, maderios wrote:
Print shops ask for png, jpeg or tiff, not psd
Maybe your consumer quick printer, not offset print shops that do
professional work. They want usually, PDF and/or PSD. PSD not being
their
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
You're quite out of your depth of knowledge. You seem to think you have
some sort of right to get what you want. You don't, OSS/FOSS doesn't
work like that, unless you're the one developing. FOSS development isn't
a democracy.
I just think that every
On 09/20/2012 11:32 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
I just think that every user can contribute to the development not
only for bugs but also for improvements.
Every user can try (assuming that the project actually provides a
feedback channel, which is not a
I see lots of complaints about the Gimp save and export. I've been
using Gimp for ages with this feature. It is entirely logical and I
don't understand the complaining.
In a DAW (digital audio workstation application) you save the whole
project as a session. You export the final file as mixdown
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, maderios wrote:
A DAW with no name...
Any DAW.
Lots of apps... Which apps ?
We've discussed it before, with names. But really, pick any DAW, any
NLE and the like.
Most software, digikam, phot$p, firefox, avidemux, libreoffice,
doesnt work like gimp but
On 09/12/2012 01:38 PM, Psiweapon wrote:
The problem lies with users who DON'T need the XCF file awesomeness AT
ALL, such as me, as I'm made to jump through hoops to save a .PNG I just
opened. Well, I can use overwrite, but that doesn't even have a keyboard
shortcut.
Hi
I use .xcf files but
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
Gimp is no longer the universal Swiss army knife of image
editing, it's a fact.
Yes, that is true. It also doesn't aim to.
Bye,
Simon
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:43 PM, maderios wrote:
People will leave the world of free software to turn to proprietary.
Isn't it where four riders of the Apocalypse emerge? Oh, and Ronnie :)
Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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All DAWs work like this. That's why I used it as an example. DAWs
generally work in a non destructive manner and you need to save that
info for later editing. Not destructively export it without saving the
whole project. 2D image editing has many non destructive aspects. DAWs
have lots of tracks
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ryan Stark wrote:
DAWs have lots of tracks which can be equated to Gimp's layers.
They even have layers inside tracks ;-)
Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:
I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I think,
don't use .xcf. They need an image editor, not an xcf editor.
People will leave the world of free software to turn to proprietary.
Gimp is no longer
I see all this critique as completely ridiculous. That's why I posted
about it. Gimp is a professional level app and it's free. What more do
people want?
I use Gimp for painting purposes so I end up with complex Gimp
projects with many layers etc so the new save or export makes total
sense. I
Ryan Stark (efflux...@googlemail.com) wrote:
This is a superb feature.
You can buy a little MIDI controller with lots of knobs and sliders.
VASTLY superior to sliders on graphics tablets.
Yay! Somebody is using this feature! :-)
Bye,
Simon
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I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I
think, don't use .xcf.
Yes, I think you have just about FINALLY hit the point. I am NOT a developer
for GIMP, but I am enthusiastically in support of this new change so that I
CANNOT loose my multi-layer composition
The basic problem appears to be that casual users of Gimp who just
want to open an image, edit then save it back to the original format
don't really seem to understand the .xfc format and what that does. If
they spent a few minutes investigating that they would understand the
change instead of
On 09/12/2012 03:50 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I
think, don't use .xcf.
Yes, I think you have just about FINALLY hit the point. I am NOT a developer for GIMP,
but I am enthusiastically in support of this new change so
* maderios mader...@gmail.com [09-12-12 10:36]:
Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor.
s/is now/has always been/
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM, maderios wrote:
Free Software philosophy is opening, not closing.
About GNU/Linux philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
The GIMP philosophy is less talking, more doing. This whole thread
is against it.
The change won't be
Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor.
Gimp is an image editor that can import or export whatever you want
but has it's own savable format for all the layers and other data to
store for later editing. Hence the differentiation of saving and
exporting.
Print
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:34:07 +0200
From: mader...@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints
Most software, digikam, phot$p, firefox, avidemux, libreoffice, doesnt
work like gimp but with standard way.
Greetings
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Maderios
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up a jpeg
file.
On the other hand, for people who do complicated image building over many
sessions, it makes sense to save a project and in that case it would be logical
to have an option that allows gimp to open the previous
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up
a jpeg file.
No, so then the logical thing is to export. Why is this such a
problem? Export is separated from save dialog to make it difficult to
accidentally lose you data. If you accidentally save to xcf rather
than export
Should GIMP be dumbed down for people who are too stupid to save their work?
As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open; Save;
Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
interaction and all users can be given the maximum security for
Now that's a really neat idea. What (affordable) MIDI controller do you like?
I use a Korg NanoKontrol. The one here with the sliders and knobs:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/software_controllers/nano2/sc_nano2.php
I'm not sure how much it is but it's cheap compared to what there used
to be.
On 09/12/2012 05:37 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up a
jpeg file.
On the other hand, for people who do complicated image building over
many sessions, it makes sense to save a project and in that case it
would be logical to have an option
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open;
Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
interaction and all users can be given the maximum security for their work.
Nothing works for
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To: Øyvind Kolås pip...@gimp.org
Cc: gimp-user-list gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints
I see all this critique as completely ridiculous. That's why I posted
about it. Gimp is a professional level app
Exactly!
On 9/12/2012 9:40 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open;
Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
interaction and all users can be
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:
The first rule to know when editing an image is to save your work as you go
along. When you drive a car you look ahead, not behind, you watch the
road... It's the same principle : security. If people knew that, this
annoying
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