[Gimp-user] Startup problems

2012-01-21 Thread NoviceGimper

Excellent - I also wondered if I could copy the the file into Gimp folder.  But 
like I said - too naive on a computer so I was nervous to try anything.
 
You are wonderfully kind - thanks again for your brilliant help.  Going to try 
doing this tomorrow evening when I have some time.

Candice
(totally overcast but hot and humid as any other regular Summery day in South 
Africa)




Hi Candice, Let me spell it out again with my sincere apologies to all the 
non-HP GIMP users for boring them to tears but not eternally I hope!

On my HP ProBook 4730s I had indeed managed to install GIMP by first changing 
the HP version of intl.dll into intl.bak. For further reference the GIMP 
installer had created a head directory GIMP-2.0 in the C:/Program Files of my 
HP.

To get the flavour of GIMP I just used it for some image manipulations I 
routinely use with Photoshop on my old Dell, a rather expensive software which 
cannot be transferred to my new HP. I was impressed by GIMP which is free-ware 
after all.

Then of course I returned my HP to its original set-up by changing intl.bak 
into intl.dll because I had found out with earlier attempts that the HP login 
would no longer work without that file and had to be by-passed just to regain 
control --- that depends how you customised your HP in the first place. Once 
the HP login procedure is returned to normal the activation of Gimp fails. (At 
once script-fu.exe cannot find something in that intl.dll library.) No use to 
complain to HP. I got nowhere with HP support on the matter of their login 
procedure for their ProBok S-series, whether some GIMP users might deem that 
procedure broken or not.

I thought you would have to repeat the procedure used to install GIMP each 
time you'd want to use GIMP. A bit of a pain...  However Kevin Brubeck 
Unhammer wondered if one could not circumvent GIMP's plug-in problem on the 
HP by copying GIMP's intl.dll into any GIMP subdirectory containing a plug-in. 
At least this couldn't interfere with anything but GIMP.  Thus I copied the 
intl.dll file from GIMP-2.0/bin into GIMP-2.0/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins where all 
the plug-ins seem to be collected (including the script-fu.exe above) and 
presto I was in business! The results of running again my previous tests were 
just as expected BUT only a GIMP expert could tell us if this is the solution 
of the HP problem. I have some doubt that it is that simple otherwise it would 
have been already known... Thanks to Kevin anyway for his suggestion and 
greetings from (wet) Sydney. René.

 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:14:31 +0100
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
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 Subject: [Gimp-user] Startup problems
 
 Hello
 
 Thanks for your help.  I was not able to access the net sooner so I am sorry 
 for the late reply.  I guess then what I need to do is (- please may you 
 correct me if I have misunderstood your advice)
 
 1.  deinstall Gimp and all its components
 2.  open Windows system 32 file - find intl.dll - and then rename it to 
 intl.bak
 3.  download and reinstall Gimp 
 4.  Upon reattempt at installation of Gimp in theory, it should then not 
 recognise or confuse System32's intl.dll (now called intl.bak) with its own 
 thus installing itself correctly with all its extensions 
 5.  reopen Windows32 system folder and rename intl.bak to the original 
 intl.dll
 
 Hope I have it right?  I can see how it should work if it is confusing HP's 
 System32 intl.dll with it's own.
 
 One more question if you would oblige - do I have to do this -every time 
 that I start up Gimp or just this once when installing it?
 
 Thanks so much for you time again.
 
 Candice





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[Gimp-user] Startup problems

2012-01-20 Thread NoviceGimper
Hello

Thanks for your help.  I was not able to access the net sooner so I am sorry 
for the late reply.  I guess then what I need to do is (- please may you 
correct me if I have misunderstood your advice)

1.  deinstall Gimp and all its components
2.  open Windows system 32 file - find intl.dll - and then rename it to intl.bak
3.  download and reinstall Gimp 
4.  Upon reattempt at installation of Gimp in theory, it should then not 
recognise or confuse System32's intl.dll (now called intl.bak) with its own 
thus installing itself correctly with all its extensions 
5.  reopen Windows32 system folder and rename intl.bak to the original intl.dll

Hope I have it right?  I can see how it should work if it is confusing HP's 
System32 intl.dll with it's own.

One more question if you would oblige - do I have to do this -every time that I 
start up Gimp or just this once when installing it?

Thanks so much for you time again.

Candice




NoviceGimper, your first query was not at all posted to the wrong thread. I 
also tried to install GIMP-2.0 on my new HP ProBook running Windows 7 (WIN32) 
and got conflict between the intl.dll (a small 44KB Dynamic Link Library used 
by the HP logon procedure; the file is in the subdirectory C:/Windows/System32 
together with intl.cpl, a Control Panel item).  The reason is that GIMP has 
its own intl.dll much larger library (165KB), whence all these missing items 
because GIMP looks first into C:/Windows/System32 and finds the HP intl.dll 
which has nothing to do with it. The FAQ we both refer to is IMO misleading 
inasmuch as one should not remove the intl.dll found on the HP --- it is 
hardly broken ! --- otherwise the HP logon procedure will stall and you'll 
be in trouble if you erased it. Made weary of such a rash procedure I simply 
had changed its extension to intl.bak and once I had regained control I simply 
changed it back. Meanwhile GIMP-2.0 was correctly installed and worked as far 
as I could tell. But I only tried GIMP because on my new HP I cannot use the 
copy of PhotoShop I bought for my old Dell. Thus it was more 
important/convenient for me to return my HP to its original  logon procedure. 
Too bad for GIMP. I would have expected of GIMP to look first in its own stock 
of DLL's as indeed do the Computer Algebra Systems I am familiar with but 
apparently this is not possible. Jernej Simončič replied to me that:  
Because the DLL search path in Windows is roughly executable directory,
 Windows\System32, Windows, %PATH%. Unfortunately, GIMP's plug-ins are all
 individual executables, but they don't reside in the same directory as
 gimp.exe, and as such look for DLLs in the System32 directory before
 looking in GIMP's install dir.
 In that case I can only suggest to try the following procedure (at your own 
 risk if your HP differs from mine!). Logon as usual and just before 
 installing and then using GIMP change the HP intl.dll into intl.bak (assuming 
 you give yourself the authority to do so). After you have finishd with GIMP 
 do not forget to return intl.bak to its original extension: intl.dll Well 
 that is not very nice but not as rash (foolish?) as deleting the original 
 intl.dll and I cannot suggest anything else nor did anyone else so far.  I 
 wish GIMP and/or HP would have used a more specific and imaginative file name 
 than intl !!! René. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:51:18 +0100
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 Subject: [Gimp-user] Startup problems
 
 Hi there 
 
 I think I may have posted this question into the wrong thread.  Hoping 
 someone can help me.  I have become quite fond of GIMP and use it to make 
 posters, images and colouring pages for my classroom.  I recently was given 
 a new HP Probook 4530s with Intel Core i5 processor and it is running 
 Windows 7.  I tried to download and install Gimp 2.6 but when I start up I 
 get an error saying:  The procedure entry point libintl_setlocale could not 
 be located in the dynamic link library intl.dll.
 
 On the Gimp FAQ - it says that this is a fault connected to HP machines and 
 that a broken app placed the file in the system32 directory.  It also says 
 that I should rename the file and it should work.
 
 I am not quite computer savvy - so I would like someone in the know to help 
 me out here.
 
 1.  What should I rename the file to?  And should I move the file from the 
 system 32 folder to like some Gimp folder?
 
 2.  Some other HP user said that renaming the file interefered with some 
 Logon User Interface - I am not going to pretend like I even understand what 
 this means - but it reads as if merely renaming the file caused something 
 else to malfunction.  
 
 Like I said earlier - I am very naive when it comes to computers and how 
 they work so may I please ask someone who has successfully resolved the 
 problem to talk me through step-by-step (I mean like seriously treat me as 
 if I am someone who has just learned to turn a PC