[Gimp-user] user experience - buggish

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Ballard
Hello Gimp

I like your software very much. I use it quite often.

But I have a problem to report. I hope you listen and don't look down
snootily on whinging users.

Problem:

image scaling / moving / canvas size

Action: Opened a png + changed zoom from 65% (which it was set at) to 100%.
Result: Image increased in scale but it became too big for the visible
window and some disappeard off the side.

Action: I increased the window breadth so I could see the part of the image
that was missing off the side.
Result: Window increased in size, but image stayed in the same place, with
half of it still missing off the left side. The right side, increased by my
enlargening of the window, just filled with whitespace. I couldn't shift
the image to where I could see it because there was no scroll bar at the
bottom.

Action: I selected the move tool (this is hard to find, btw, in the
transform menu - it would imho be better standing alone in the main tool
menu), and attempted to move the image to where I could see it.
Result: The image moved but its canvas didn't. So while what was lost off
the left shifted into view, what could be seen on the right disappeared off
its own edge in concert.

I'm sure there's a good reason for this. And I'm sure there's a way to
correct it. But it is apparenlty not straightforward or intuitive.

I hope this helps

Mark Ballard.
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Re: [Gimp-user] user experience - buggish

2014-12-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Mark Ballard wrote:

 Action: Opened a png + changed zoom from 65% (which it was set at) to 100%.
 Result: Image increased in scale but it became too big for the visible
 window and some disappeard off the side.

What is the expected result? Or are you describing a sequence of actions?

 Action: I increased the window breadth so I could see the part of the image
 that was missing off the side.
 Result: Window increased in size, but image stayed in the same place, with
 half of it still missing off the left side. The right side, increased by my
 enlargening of the window, just filled with whitespace. I couldn't shift
 the image to where I could see it because there was no scroll bar at the
 bottom.

Scroll bar is enabled by default. Perhaps it should automatically
appear when canvas doesn't fit the viewport. Is that what you expect
GIMP to do?

 Action: I selected the move tool (this is hard to find, btw, in the
 transform menu - it would imho be better standing alone in the main tool
 menu), and attempted to move the image to where I could see it.
 Result: The image moved but its canvas didn't. So while what was lost off
 the left shifted into view, what could be seen on the right disappeared off
 its own edge in concert.

You expect the Move tool to do panning. This is simply not what the
tool is designed to do :)

Please use either of the two actions to pan:

1) Press spacebar and move your mouse around without clicking its buttons.
2) Press scroll wheel of your mouse and drag the mouse around.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] user experience - buggish

2014-12-19 Thread Bob Long
Mark Ballard wrote on 19/12/14 21:55:
 Hello Gimp
 
 I like your software very much. I use it quite often.
 
 But I have a problem to report. I hope you listen and don't look down
 snootily on whinging users.
 
 Problem:
 
 image scaling / moving / canvas size
 
 Action: Opened a png + changed zoom from 65% (which it was set at) to 100%.
 Result: Image increased in scale but it became too big for the visible
 window and some disappeard off the side.

See if the Edit|Preferences|Image Windows|Resize window on zoom and
Resize window on image size change settings help.

-- 
Bob Long


 Action: I increased the window breadth so I could see the part of the image
 that was missing off the side.
 Result: Window increased in size, but image stayed in the same place, with
 half of it still missing off the left side. The right side, increased by my
 enlargening of the window, just filled with whitespace. I couldn't shift
 the image to where I could see it because there was no scroll bar at the
 bottom.
 
 Action: I selected the move tool (this is hard to find, btw, in the
 transform menu - it would imho be better standing alone in the main tool
 menu), and attempted to move the image to where I could see it.
 Result: The image moved but its canvas didn't. So while what was lost off
 the left shifted into view, what could be seen on the right disappeared off
 its own edge in concert.
 
 I'm sure there's a good reason for this. And I'm sure there's a way to
 correct it. But it is apparenlty not straightforward or intuitive.
 
 I hope this helps
 
 Mark Ballard.
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