Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Andrea Veri]

Hi,

I’ve received several questions during the past days which possibly makes
sense to summarize in a single topic [1] which I can then reference.
Hopefully this specific post will help anyone looking for the same set of
answers as well. If any additional common question arises I’ll make sure to
add it to this same topic in Discourse.

Thanks and please let us know if you have any questions around Discourse or
your onboarding process!

[1]
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/common-questions-re-mailman-to-discourse/11841


On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:09 PM Andrea Veri  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
> 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
> instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
> initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
> out to me directly.
>
> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
> follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse.
> The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
> Account and other major OpenID providers.
>
> After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
> alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind
> an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
> Discourse instead.
>
> Thanks,
>
> P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
> deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
> how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase
>
> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org
> [2]
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
> [3]
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Andrea
>
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> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
>
> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it
>


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Rick Kline]

Thank you, Dave. 

I installed Thunderbird on our Mac and after a few moments was able to figure 
out the next steps.

After setting up a News account, I clicked on “Manage newsgroup subscriptions”, 
typed GIMP in the “Show items that contain:” line.
“comp.graphics.apps.gimp” was at the top of the list. Clicked the checkbox, 
clicked Subscribe and OK.

Done.

This is mostly for those (like me) who haven’t used newsgroups in a long time, 
or ever.

Best regards,
Rick

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> On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:49 AM, dboland9 via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> GIMP Users,
> 
> I hate web based forums/help because it is a royal pain to use. There is an 
> alternative.  It is "comp.graphics.apps.gimp" news group.  Not familiar with 
> news groups?  If you use Thunderbird, the newsgroup reader is built in.  A 
> great provider is news://nntp.aioe.org.  Fear not, they are very easy to use 
> - just like email.
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
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> --- Original Message ---
> On Friday, October 21st, 2022 at 9:32 AM, Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> The forum at https://discourse.gnome.org/ will replace the list
>> 
>> On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum,
>>> etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?--
>>> 
>>> http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
>>> http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
>>> http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
>>> Deeply discounted ebooks:
>>> https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Ofnuts via gimp-user-list]

In Discourse  use "tags" (like on SO...) and you can of course
search/display using tags, and even put them in a URL. So try:

https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/gimp

On 21/10/2022 17:05, Micah Salb wrote:

But where is that forum?  I signed up but all I see is stuff about 
Gnome--nothing about Gimp!  Where do I find the Gimp forum?

Micah Salb



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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[graphics2281]

Well, this is unfortunate. So far I think I am just going to hope that I 
can look at that Web based forum, and hope that search engines can 
catalog it decently so I can get help with GIMP when I need it.


I see that someone has said there that only top posting is allowed for 
quoted replies there. I really dislike that. That person's rubbing it in 
put me off quite a bit.


Seems like this might be goodbye to all that, for me. It's been educational.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Pat David via gimp-user-list]

As mentioned in Jehan's thread on [Gimp-docs] "Discontinuation of mailing
lists and moving to Discourse", there are two primary options.

1. There is a "GIMP" tag on the forum if you want to see only GIMP related
messages: https://discourse.gnome.org/tag/gimp

2. There is the GIMP forum on PIXLS.US (primarily photography based but all
sorts of users hanging around): https://discuss.pixls.us/gimp



On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:06 AM Micah Salb 
wrote:

> But where is that forum?  I signed up but all I see is stuff about
> Gnome--nothing about Gimp!  Where do I find the Gimp forum?
>
> Micah Salb
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gimp-user-list  On Behalf Of Luna
> Jernberg via gimp-user-list
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 9:33 AM
> To: Gloria Lassich 
> Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired
> by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)
>
> The forum at https://discou Discontinuation
> of mailing lists and moving to Discourserse.gnome.org/
>  will replace the list
>
> On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list 
> wrote:
> > So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place
> > (forum,
> > etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?-- 
> > http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
> > http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
> > http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
> > Deeply discounted ebooks:
> > https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Micah Salb]

But where is that forum?  I signed up but all I see is stuff about 
Gnome--nothing about Gimp!  Where do I find the Gimp forum?

Micah Salb


-Original Message-
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Jernberg via gimp-user-list
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 9:33 AM
To: Gloria Lassich 
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the 
end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

The forum at https://discourse.gnome.org/ will replace the list

On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list  wrote:
> So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place 
> (forum,
> etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?--  
> http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
> http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
> http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
> Deeply discounted ebooks:
> https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[JLuc]

Hello,

Never posting, but I was (sometimes) reading these lists
via news.gmane.io in thunderbird newsgroups pane.
Thunderbird folders are in my user space,
so it was receiving these talks kind of "at home"
and they were on my everyday mouse's path.

A Discourse wont be on my everyday mouse's paths at all.
I wont probably read these "news" anymore.

But I use Discourse for another FOSS i'm more busy with,
and it's OK as a QA tool.
The mainteners of that other discourse had imported previous email lists
as archives in the Discourse, where it's possible to search them.
Sometime it's usefull.
+ For email afficionados, there is an efficient "receive new posts by mail" 
setting,
and also a very limited and hazardous "answer by mail" ability
(limited and hazardous because it "cleans" and deletes parts of the posted 
html+text)

JL



 Le 20/10/2022 à 13:09, Andrea Veri a écrit :

Hi,

As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
out to me directly.

Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can follow
[3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse. The new
platform supports several login methods including your GNOME Account and
other major OpenID providers.

After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain alive
in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind an
alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on Discourse
instead.

Thanks,

P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase

[1] https://discourse.gnome.org
[2]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
[3]
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5




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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[dboland9 via gimp-user-list]

GIMP Users,

I hate web based forums/help because it is a royal pain to use. There is an 
alternative.  It is "comp.graphics.apps.gimp" news group.  Not familiar with 
news groups?  If you use Thunderbird, the newsgroup reader is built in.  A 
great provider is news://nntp.aioe.org.  Fear not, they are very easy to use - 
just like email.

Dave,




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--- Original Message ---
On Friday, October 21st, 2022 at 9:32 AM, Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list 
 wrote:


> The forum at https://discourse.gnome.org/ will replace the list
> 
> On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list gimp-user-list@gnome.org wrote:
> 
> > So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum,
> > etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?--
> > 
> > http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
> > http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
> > http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
> > Deeply discounted ebooks:
> > https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Luna Jernberg via gimp-user-list]

The forum at https://discourse.gnome.org/ will replace the list

On 10/21/22, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list  wrote:
> So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum,
> etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?--
> 
> http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
> http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
> http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
> Deeply discounted ebooks:
> https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list]

So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum,
etc.) that you guys recommend for help with GIMP?--

http://www.instagram.com/peepsgrfx
http://www.instagram.com/thecrazyloop
http://www.instagram.com/divashopg
Deeply discounted ebooks:
https://bit.ly/3ghjL1s
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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Dan Hitt via gimp-user-list]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:06 PM Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@
eternallybored.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 18:44:12, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
>
> > Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same
> > level is rational. Login is top level.  Putting logout two levels down
> > simply isn't reasonable.
>
> I don't really see the point of logging out – it's a website, just don't
> visit it if you don't need it at the moment.
>

Well, if you are on a public computer you don't want to leave anything
logged in because the next user could impersonate you?

Alternatively, if there's no need to ever log out, then just don't provide
the means, anywhere, to do so.  But that doesn't sound exactly right.  :)

dan


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list]

Hi!

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:42 PM  wrote:

> From:   Andrea Veri 
> Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be
> retired by the end of Oct 2022
> > ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ...
> > ...
> > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org
>
> > Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions ...
>
> I created an account, found the list of tags, switched order from
> "count" to "name" and found gimp.  Whew!  Conclusion: more complex
> than necessary but it works.
>
> Haven't found a logout.  Does Discourse have logout?
>

Yeah, it's a bit hidden, I agree.

1) On the top-right, there is an icon representing your account (it's
either a profile picture if you set one, or I believe by default, it's the
first letter of your account name). Click it.
2) It pops up some popover dialog, with 4 top icons. The rightest icon is
like some kind of "person". Click the person icon.
3) The menu shown below will have a "Log Out" item.

Jehan


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[peter]

From:   Andrea Veri 
Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by 
the end of Oct 2022
> ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ...
> ...
> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org

> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions ...

I created an account, found the list of tags, switched order from 
"count" to "name" and found gimp.  Whew!  Conclusion: more complex 
than necessary but it works.

Haven't found a logout.  Does Discourse have logout?

Thanks,   ... P.




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