Re: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

2016-11-23 Thread Mark Morin


On 11/23/2016 5:12 PM, TimH wrote:
> Thank you for your suggestions. I actually used a script to actually delete 
> the
> font files, so I think they genuinely are moved at an OS level.

The OS doesn't delete fonts, it uninstalls them. There's a difference.
If you go to you fonts folder in c:\windows\fonts you will see a listing
(or graphical icon). Select a font and you will see the option to delete
it. The font gets uninstalled (registry reference is deleted too). If
you write a script to delete a font, you are using the OS's delete
command which doesn't unregister the font.

>
>> It is pretty likely Windows doesn't delete fonts, but marks them as
>> hidden. This may not be reflected in the list of fonts available to
>> GIMP, if fontconfig - the library used to list and categorize fonts -
>> either does not support this yet, or is not configured to do so.
>>
>> We got a similar bug report about fonts not being used due to language
>> settings:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641808
>>
>>
>> What we need is for someone using the affected platform (or caring
>> very
>> much about it) to figure out how fontconfig can be made to honor these
>> settings and/or the font state (i.e. them being hidden or not,
>> respectively).
>>
>> This could be a configuration setting, or may require a code change in
>> this library. Blacklisting arbitrary fonts based on some of their
>> feature is possible, so this might be a matter of finding something
>> these fonts have in common that is also recognized and understood by
>> fontconfig.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

2016-11-23 Thread Michael Schumacher


On 11/23/2016 11:12 PM, TimH wrote:

> Thank you for your suggestions. I actually used a script to actually delete 
> the
> font files, so I think they genuinely are moved at an OS level.

I'd like to point out two recent mails from this list:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2016-November/msg7.html

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2016-November/msg00011.html


The user there was pretty sure to have deleted fonts for good - turned
out they still were not gone yet.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

2016-11-23 Thread Michael Schumacher


On 11/23/2016 09:11 PM, TimH wrote:

> I went through and cleaned a whole load of fonts out of my Windows 8 system -
> including a lot of system fonts. That change is not reflected in GIMP, which
> persists in showing me the old system fonts including the non-western 
> languages,
> which, being a Westerner, I do not use. 

It is pretty likely Windows doesn't delete fonts, but marks them as
hidden. This may not be reflected in the list of fonts available to
GIMP, if fontconfig - the library used to list and categorize fonts -
either does not support this yet, or is not configured to do so.

We got a similar bug report about fonts not being used due to language
settings:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641808


What we need is for someone using the affected platform (or caring very
much about it) to figure out how fontconfig can be made to honor these
settings and/or the font state (i.e. them being hidden or not,
respectively).

This could be a configuration setting, or may require a code change in
this library. Blacklisting arbitrary fonts based on some of their
feature is possible, so this might be a matter of finding something
these fonts have in common that is also recognized and understood by
fontconfig.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

2016-11-23 Thread Ofnuts

On 23/11/16 21:11, TimH wrote:

I went through and cleaned a whole load of fonts out of my Windows 8 system -
including a lot of system fonts. That change is not reflected in GIMP, which
persists in showing me the old system fonts including the non-western languages,
which, being a Westerner, I do not use. I can confirm that they are not in my
windows system fonts directory. I can also confirm that there are no folders
listed under Edit - Preferences - Folders - Fonts.

So where are these font references stored. I'm talking about fonts like Batang -
which, when I select it, does not display Batang font, just Western. Are they
hard coded in GIMP somewhere? Does GIMP pick up what's installed when it itself
is installed, and then never forget them?



Hazy memory (I have not used Windows recently) but look for a 
"fontcache" directory somewhere in your "Application Data" directory 
tree. Then remove it. Next Gimp startup will take a while rebuilding it, 
looking at the existing system fonts.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

2016-11-23 Thread Rick Strong
Somebody had the same problem not too long ago. If there is a GIMP list 
archive, check there.


Rick S.

-Original Message- 
From: TimH

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 3:11 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Unused fonts

I went through and cleaned a whole load of fonts out of my Windows 8 
system -

including a lot of system fonts. That change is not reflected in GIMP, which
persists in showing me the old system fonts including the non-western 
languages,
which, being a Westerner, I do not use. I can confirm that they are not in 
my

windows system fonts directory. I can also confirm that there are no folders
listed under Edit - Preferences - Folders - Fonts.

So where are these font references stored. I'm talking about fonts like 
Batang -
which, when I select it, does not display Batang font, just Western. Are 
they
hard coded in GIMP somewhere? Does GIMP pick up what's installed when it 
itself

is installed, and then never forget them?


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