Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-09 Thread Gary Aitken
On 02/09/15 07:03, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
 Of course, the documentation in this case is an obvious mismatch to
 what the program does.
 The current behavior is useless, under any workflow I try to imagine (after 
 all,
 if the layers are to be flattened, there is no reason for place them
 in a group to start with);

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had trouble with my imagination...

 Anyway, the right fix for this wouldbe to allow multiple item selection, as
 Alex puts it.
 
 Meanwhile, I've put together this small Python script that does just that:
 move the selected (linked) layers to a target (active) layer group.
 
 Just copy it to your plug-ins folder, and mark it as executable (not
 needed under windos)
 http://fpaste.org/183299/

Muito obrigado, Joao!

Gary

 On 8 February 2015 at 17:38, Alexandre Prokoudine
 alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 When you say some preliminary work has been done there, are you
 referring to the chain / link that appears in the layers dialog?

 No, it's been there for ages :)

 I'm talking about how you can make multiple selections of assets
 (brushes, gradients and so on), if you switch their view to 'list'
 rather than 'icon'. It should work for all kinds of lists including
 layers, and for assets it shouldn't be limited to the list view. It
 just hasn't been done yet. Like every feature, it needs a contributor
 to write actual code.
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 When you say some preliminary work has been done there, are you
 referring to the chain / link that appears in the layers dialog?

No, it's been there for ages :)

I'm talking about how you can make multiple selections of assets
(brushes, gradients and so on), if you switch their view to 'list'
rather than 'icon'. It should work for all kinds of lists including
layers, and for assets it shouldn't be limited to the list view. It
just hasn't been done yet. Like every feature, it needs a contributor
to write actual code.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 I expected all of the visible layers to simply be moved
 as separate layers into the layer group.

In that case you need to create a new group layer. You also need GIMP
2.8 for that.

Look at the Layer menu closely and at the small toolbar in the bottom
of the Layers dockable palette.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Gary Aitken
Hi Alex,

Thanks for the response.

 I expected all of the visible layers to simply be moved
 as separate layers into the layer group.
 
 In that case you need to create a new group layer. You also need GIMP
 2.8 for that.

I am running 2.8.14
Perhaps I was too vague in my original question; I'll try to clarify.
I have tried it both ways:

1a.  Create new group layer (Layer/New Layer Group)
1b.  Layer/New from Visible.
  This creates an additional new layer as a sublayer of the group
  layer created in 1a, containing the visible layers I wanted as 
  sublayers, all flattened into the new sublayer as a single layer.
  The original layers are still present and independent at the top level.

2a.  Layer/New from Visible
   This creates a new independent layer containing the visible layers I
   wanted as sublayers, flattened into the new layer as a single
   layer.  The original layers are still present and independent at the
   top level. 

In neither case are the existing layers moved to become sublayers.
 
 Look at the Layer menu closely and at the small toolbar in the bottom
 of the Layers dockable palette.

I don't see anything there that is not also available via the layers menu.
There's a new layer button equivalent to Layer/New Layer, and there's a 
new group button equivalent to Layer/New Layer Group.  Plus the up, down,
duplicate, anchor, and trashbin.  Should I be seeing something additional?

still searching for a convenient solution...

Gary
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 1b.  Layer/New from Visible.

I'm not sure why you are trying to do this. Perhaps I don't understand
what you are trying to achieve :)

To move existing layers to a layer group, click to select the first
one, then drag and drop onto the layer group, repeat for each layer.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 What I was looking for was a more convenient way of doing it --
 by somehow selecting / marking / making visible the desired layers,
 and then moving them as a group all at once into the layer group.

There is no multiple layers selection in GIMP yet. This obviously
needs fixing, and some preliminary work has been done there, but it
was never finished. Hopefully someone will find the time to make it
possible.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 02/07/2015 04:49 AM, Gary Aitken wrote:

 According the the manual:
 
 You can put layers to be added together to a layer group by making
 them, them only, visible, and using the “New From Visible ” command.
 All visible layers, outside and inside layer groups, will be added to
 the active layer group. 

I don't get what the author of this is trying to tell the reader.

I guess it is time for an overall review of the docs?


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Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] grouping multiple layers

2015-02-07 Thread Gary Aitken
Hi Alex,

 I'm not sure why you are trying to do this. Perhaps I don't understand
 what you are trying to achieve :)
 
 To move existing layers to a layer group, click to select the first
 one, then drag and drop onto the layer group, repeat for each layer.

That's what I'm trying to do.
I know I can do it that way.
What I was looking for was a more convenient way of doing it -- 
by somehow selecting / marking / making visible the desired layers,
and then moving them as a group all at once into the layer group.

Gary
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