Re: [Gimp-user] FireAnim is Grayed Out in Script-Fu

2002-12-07 Thread Nigel Ridley
On 07 Dec 2002 01:13:03 -0600
Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 00:41, Nigel Ridley wrote:
  On 07 Dec 2002 00:06:50 -0600
  Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  Hi,
  
  Are you sure you want to use gifs? I also thought about it for my
  'non-profit' website and wrote to Unisys to ask about a license -
  their answer? $10,000 per year and 1% of all products sold on my
  website (I did inform them that I wasn't selling anything!). So I
  switched everything to png's.
  
  Have a look at:
  http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/burn_all_gifs.htm
  and, if you want animated graphics:
  http://www.libmng.com/
  
  RedHat crippled Xmms (media player) in 8.0,  also because of patent
  problems - so that is why they probably don't include the 'gif' plugin
  in their Gimp RPM's.
  
  Nigel Ridley.
 snip
 Unfortunately PNG's don't support animation.
No but MNG does.
 
 Yeah, I know they did. So I promptly went to XMMS's website and
 downloaded the RPM that would add in the MP3 decoder (it's only the
 encoder's that the patent holders want), and I read at
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html:
 
 Unisys does not require licensing, or fees to be paid, for
 non-commercial, non-profit GIF-based applications, including those for
 use on the on-line services. Concerning developers of software for the
 Internet network, the same principle applies. Unisys will not pursue
 previous inadvertent infringement by developers producing versions of
 software products for the Internet prior to 1995. The company does not
 require licensing, or fees to be paid for non-commercial, non-profit
 offerings on the Internet, including Freeware.
The email reply that I got from Unisys informed me that I needn't pay the
license fee so long as the gif was created with an app that HAD paid the
license fee - such as PaintShop. Unfortunately The Gimp doesn't have a
license and so the problem. They were adamant that if I manipulated or
created gif's using The Gimp that I would need to purchase a license. That
was only 2 months ago!!
 
 I guess they changed it. *shrugs* Either way, I need the animation
 ability (unless there is now a MNG plugin (basically an animated PNG
 form what I understand) for GIMP) of a GIF (I'm trying to make a logo
 similar to what I have at http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org except WAY
 smaller (only like 100x50 pixels)).
If your really desperated and don't mind using something other than The
Gimp (don't know about a plugin for MNG's) then ImageMagic will convert
most animated gif's.
 -- 
 Joseph A Nagy Jr
 CEO, Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises
 http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org

Nigel Ridley.

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Re: [Gimp-user] FireAnim is Grayed Out in Script-Fu

2002-12-07 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 02:58, Nigel Ridley wrote:
 On 07 Dec 2002 01:13:03 -0600
 Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
   Nigel Ridley.
  snip
  Unfortunately PNG's don't support animation.
 No but MNG does.
  
  Yeah, I know they did. So I promptly went to XMMS's website and
  downloaded the RPM that would add in the MP3 decoder (it's only the
  encoder's that the patent holders want), and I read at
  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html:
  
  Unisys does not require licensing, or fees to be paid, for
  non-commercial, non-profit GIF-based applications, including those for
  use on the on-line services. Concerning developers of software for the
  Internet network, the same principle applies. Unisys will not pursue
  previous inadvertent infringement by developers producing versions of
  software products for the Internet prior to 1995. The company does not
  require licensing, or fees to be paid for non-commercial, non-profit
  offerings on the Internet, including Freeware.
 The email reply that I got from Unisys informed me that I needn't pay the
 license fee so long as the gif was created with an app that HAD paid the
 license fee - such as PaintShop. Unfortunately The Gimp doesn't have a
 license and so the problem. They were adamant that if I manipulated or
 created gif's using The Gimp that I would need to purchase a license. That
 was only 2 months ago!!

Damn.

  
  I guess they changed it. *shrugs* Either way, I need the animation
  ability (unless there is now a MNG plugin (basically an animated PNG
  form what I understand) for GIMP) of a GIF (I'm trying to make a logo
  similar to what I have at http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org except WAY
  smaller (only like 100x50 pixels)).
 If your really desperated and don't mind using something other than The
 Gimp (don't know about a plugin for MNG's) then ImageMagic will convert
 most animated gif's.

So ImageMagic will convert a animated gif to MNG? Thats kewl. I still
have the problem of not being able to use the FireAnim script (unless
that will work in ImageMagic, too).

snip
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[Gimp-user] FireAnim is Grayed Out in Script-Fu

2002-12-06 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
I did a clean install of RH 8.0 and during the install process, I had
GIMP installed. I re-downloaded the FireAnim script and gradient, placed
in the proper director and everything. I THINK the problem is that there
is no plug-in for use of the GIF format, and since none of the other
image formats support animation, the FireAnim is disabled. Would someone
be so kind as to stick up their GIF plug-in for Linux? I've looked on
the Gimp website for it as a seperate download, but I can't find it. I'd
remove the RPM install of GIMP and just do a clean install from source
but atm I don't have the appropriate libraries to do so (and it will
take me at most four hours of monkeying with my computer for me to be
able to do so). TIA (btw, the animated gif is for a  non-commecrcial
site).


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Re: [Gimp-user] FireAnim is Grayed Out in Script-Fu

2002-12-06 Thread Nigel Ridley
On 07 Dec 2002 00:06:50 -0600
Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did a clean install of RH 8.0 and during the install process, I had
 GIMP installed. I re-downloaded the FireAnim script and gradient, placed
 in the proper director and everything. I THINK the problem is that there
 is no plug-in for use of the GIF format, and since none of the other
 image formats support animation, the FireAnim is disabled. Would someone
 be so kind as to stick up their GIF plug-in for Linux? I've looked on
 the Gimp website for it as a seperate download, but I can't find it. I'd
 remove the RPM install of GIMP and just do a clean install from source
 but atm I don't have the appropriate libraries to do so (and it will
 take me at most four hours of monkeying with my computer for me to be
 able to do so). TIA (btw, the animated gif is for a  non-commecrcial
 site).
 
 
 -- 
 Joseph A Nagy Jr
 CEO, Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises
 http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org
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Hi,

Are you sure you want to use gifs? I also thought about it for my
'non-profit' website and wrote to Unisys to ask about a license - their
answer? $10,000 per year and 1% of all products sold on my website (I did
inform them that I wasn't selling anything!). So I switched everything to
png's.

Have a look at:
http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/burn_all_gifs.htm
and, if you want animated graphics:
http://www.libmng.com/

RedHat crippled Xmms (media player) in 8.0,  also because of patent
problems - so that is why they probably don't include the 'gif' plugin in
their Gimp RPM's.

Nigel Ridley.

I AM Bible Studies and Resources
http://www.i-amfaithweb.net

Messianic E-Cards.com
http://www.messianicecards.com

OliveRoot Ministries
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