Re: [Gimp-user] Help with batch processing
On 2011-08-04 at 01:51 Ofnuts said: convert in.jpg --auto-level out.jpg I had to replace --auto-level by -auto-level to do that! -- /\/\aurice ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with batch processing
Hi Pablo, you can use Script-Fu, more specifically 'gimp-levels-stretch': This procedure allows intensity levels in the specified drawable to be remapped according to a set of guessed parameters. It is equivalent to clicking the Auto button in the Levels tool. This procedure is only valid on RGB color and grayscale images. It will not operate on indexed drawables. You can access it in Gimp from Filters - Script-Fu - Console. Some time ago, I published a manual about a similar procedure to round-corners. You can consult in: www.victorsanchez2.com/#GimpScript-FU-1 www.victorsanchez2.com/#GimpScript-FU-2 and ask me if you want. Here you can get the script directly: http://www.victorsanchez2.com/fotolibre/round-corners-fotolibre-png.scm Regards, Víctor. On 4 August 2011 02:04, Pablo Gustavo Rodriguez autentico...@yahoo.com.arwrote: Hi everybody: I use Gimp just for personal pursposes like improving the colour of my photos, and I have a question that I couldn´t answer by myself so far. I use to take the same steps with every picture when improving the colour: I go to menu Colors / Levels, press the button Auto, then OK, Save and Close file. I have 200 photos taken in a tour and I´m looking for a way to do this in a batch mode, for all files at once, maybe from command line, but I couldn´t find how in the online user manual. It seems to me that script-fu may be useful but the manual didn´t help me. Is there a way to do waht I want to do?. Can any body tell me which is the function or recommend me a tutorial?. I run Gimp 2.6 under Windows 7-64 bits Very much thanks in advance. Pablo -- * Pablo Gustavo Rodriguez Lic. en Antropología http://www.analisiscualitativo.com.ar/ * ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- VictorSanchez2 www.victorsanchez2.com victorsanchez2 en jabberes.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with batch processing
On 08/04/2011 02:04 AM, Pablo Gustavo Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody: I use Gimp just for personal pursposes like improving the colour of my photos, and I have a question that I couldn´t answer by myself so far. I use to take the same steps with every picture when improving the colour: I go to menu Colors / Levels, press the button Auto, then OK, Save and snip Davids Batch processor. Gimp Plugin http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html In the colour section there is a tick box for auto-levels -- rich (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with batch processing
Hi everybody: I use Gimp just for personal pursposes like improving the colour of my photos, and I have a question that I couldn´t answer by myself so far. I use to take the same steps with every picture when improving the colour: I go to menu Colors / Levels, press the button Auto, then OK, Save and Close file. I have 200 photos taken in a tour and I´m looking for a way to do this in a batch mode, for all files at once, maybe from command line, but I couldn´t find how in the online user manual. It seems to me that script-fu may be useful but the manual didn´t help me. Is there a way to do waht I want to do?. Can any body tell me which is the function or recommend me a tutorial?. I run Gimp 2.6 under Windows 7-64 bits Very much thanks in advance. Pablo -- * Pablo Gustavo Rodriguez Lic. en Antropología http://www.analisiscualitativo.com.ar/ * ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with batch processing
On 08/04/2011 02:04 AM, Pablo Gustavo Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody: I use Gimp just for personal pursposes like improving the colour of my photos, and I have a question that I couldn´t answer by myself so far. I use to take the same steps with every picture when improving the colour: I go to menu Colors / Levels, press the button Auto, then OK, Save and Close file. I have 200 photos taken in a tour and I´m looking for a way to do this in a batch mode, for all files at once, maybe from command line, but I couldn´t find how in the online user manual. It seems to me that script-fu may be useful but the manual didn´t help me. Is there a way to do waht I want to do?. Can any body tell me which is the function or recommend me a tutorial?. I run Gimp 2.6 under Windows 7-64 bits Very much thanks in advance. Some people will likely give a very documented answer for Gimp batch. But 1) there is also an auto-level in ImageMagick convert (www.imagemagick.org) that will likely be both faster and easier to use from the command line: convert in.jpg --auto-level out.jpg see http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#auto-level for more similar options 2) if you have to run this on all/most pictures you take, you should investigate changing the settings on your camera. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! can't find free transform tool in 2.7.2
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, rich wrote: Hi Alex, I did.. i looked everywhere, but there's no icon for free transform tool in it :( Perhaps it has not compiled correctly. The icon, cage tool, should appear as http://i.imgur.com/51qba.jpg The shortcut is shift+G Well, it's rather difficult to compile it incorrectly. There's no external dependyncy in that tool apart from newer-than-in-ubuntu version of GEGL. The new tool landed to master branch in November, and last build of it for 10.10 is from February. Hence the only reason it's not there that I can think of is that the actual source code tarball wasn't updated since October-November. So it's either upgrading to 11.04 or building from source code or asking PPA maintainer to update the build for 10.10. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! can't find free transform tool in 2.7.2
hi guys, i'm soo frustrated because i'm looking for the new free transform tool with no avail. i'm using ubuntu 10.10 64bit and upgraded from this ppa https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn here's the screen shot. i don't know if i have to set something up or just do something wrong with it :( http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p79/johantri/nofree.jpg Please HELP ! ^__^ -- johantri (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! can't find free transform tool in 2.7.2
hi guys, i'm soo frustrated because i'm looking for the new free transform tool with no avail. i'm using ubuntu 10.10 64bit and upgraded from this ppa https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn here's the screen shot. i don't know if i have to set something up or just do something wrong with it :( http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p79/johantri/nofree.jpg Please HELP ! :( -- johantri (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help needed looking for a plug-in
Hi! Sometime last year, I used a Gimp 2.6 plugin which took an image and put vertical photo sprockets on the left and right sides of the image, with the text 1A printed on it. This plugin was similar to the filmstrip plugin except the filmstrip plugin puts the photo sprockets on the top and bottom of the image, not on the left and right sides. I've been looking for this plugin but I don't see it in my Gimp 2.6 installation anymore. Any ideas on which plugin I'm trying to describe? Again, it functions similar to the filmstrip plugin but it applies to only ONE image and puts the sprockets (the holes in the black edges of the photo, like a full color negative) on the left and right sides of the image. Thanks! Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed looking for a plug-in
On 03/15/2011 05:18 PM, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10:32AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote: Hi! Sometime last year, I used a Gimp 2.6 plugin which took an image and put vertical photo sprockets on the left and right sides of the image, with the text 1A printed on it. This plugin was similar to the filmstrip plugin except the filmstrip plugin puts the photo sprockets on the top and bottom of the image, not on the left and right sides. Image/Filters/Decor/Slide... http://www.gimpedimenta.org/resources/fu/script-fu-slide-System-alphabetical.shtml I think this is what and where you are looking for. carol Yep, that's it! THANK YOU!! :) Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help installation, 2.6.1-html-en.tar.bz2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the directions, they seem a bit linux-centric for me dozing over Windoze, and failing to mention that. If I can unpack a tar to an HTML, will my Windoze make such a difference? On 2/7/2011 07:47, rich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where does html/en need to be installed in GIMP file structure, please? snip snipped a load of linux stuff LOL Always dangerous to assume, the .tar.bz2 format is very much a linux thing, gpg (mingw32) gpg should have been a clue. For windows, first install gimp help 2.6 from sourceforge and check that it works. http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Then if you desperately want v2.61 unpack the archive. Use whatever you want but peazip works and there is a windows version. then the (default) location is C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help\en screenshot here. http://imgur.com/bsAoI -- rich (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help installation, 2.6.1-html-en.tar.bz2
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 07:20 -0600, Doug Huffman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where does html/en need to be installed in GIMP file structure, please? The file you downloaded is not meant to be installed by users. If possible, please grab an installer for your platform. If that is not possible (your platform might not have an appropriate installer released yet), then you can also unpack the tarball that you downloaded and place the en folder into $prefix/share/gimp/2.0/help where $prefix would /usr or /usr/local or wherever your GIMP installation resides. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help installation, 2.6.1-html-en.tar.bz2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where does html/en need to be installed in GIMP file structure, please? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNT/GLAAoJEIpOLnult3mgLTgH/2AAgP0XhyQQZBVxRwRjZHny 9myd5hUT94WwqHs38L08c0HdfaV2IpSSat+crykaYu2f3irY7qU/2L68Kk+1oqRG 07J+yFY9FgKToVIzOFKajmz1RV2ResZioNLj4tWqdw+p2AgpNMHF1aU5wu/TT1Nz dsWjknLQiwXh+CWdwS5bg/4T7NapA3qSjBAIOOsjApb62nBnA5ragAIJqUo6FxSH KvkjEHwyt8dO+So4iNMEtvdQ3BwT0JH8NLPa44tSzqrvLzhfTX7P8GhouK6Wf8Ec vnikh31/NC/CFDzlAjWQ7F+GRCAKvVmMFaP7/7AivUCrMayeMupLGtIDQvKEha0= =+ZsA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help installation, 2.6.1-html-en.tar.bz2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where does html/en need to be installed in GIMP file structure, please? snip Gimp 2.6 help files, a bit of a PITA. unpack the archive (I use peazip) and eventually you get down to a folder /gimp-help-2/html/en/ which contains a whole load of files and an /images folder this goes in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/ big *but* if you want to call the help files from gimp 2.6.x it probably will not work. What I have found to work is: Install the gimp 2.4 help package from your repo. Check that it works. Copy all the archive en files the /images to the /usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en directory overwriting anything of the same name. You end up with a few surplus files but not that many and help (F1) called from gimp works. I hope someone has a better solution. Just broke my installation messing around and to reinstall gimp 2.4 help, then the new files so here is a screen shot. http://www.imageno.com/fh1pn2dlnu2apic.html -- rich (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help in installing GIMP from source
What libraries are needed to install GIMP from source on Windows OS? Thank you, Benjamin Tan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help in installing GIMP from source
This is really a question to ask on gimp-deveoper. If you look in the recent archives of that list, the person who maintains the gimp-win installers answered the same question very recently (to sum it up: not for the faint of heart:-). On 11/01/2010 07:07 AM, Benjamin Tan wrote: What libraries are needed to install GIMP from source on Windows OS? Thank you, ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] help changing a color
I have read and looked at tutiorals and I just cant get it to work. All I am trying to do is change the color of a gif and png. They are for a website and I just need to change the color of the objects. That is all. Any help in very simple terms would help -- tamss13 (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] help changing a color
Hi, On 11 Oct 10 17:02 tamss13 for...@gimpusers.com said: All I am trying to do is change the color of a gif and png. They are for a website and I just need to change the color of the objects. I assume you are talking about menu buttons or simple graphic borders. 1. Change the mode! to RGB. Most tools do not work on indexed colour formats such as gif/png. IMAGE MODE RGB 2. Open the Hue/Saturation dialogue: COLOURS HUE-SATURATION 3. Drag the Huw slider to left or right then click OK 4. Save the image. (The GIMP will prompt with a couple of dialogues before the colours are indexed again and saved.) Greg Chapman http://www.gregtutor.plus.com Helping new users of KompoZer and The GIMP ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] help changing a color
On 10/11/2010 06:02 PM, tamss13 wrote: I have read and looked at tutiorals and I just cant get it to work. All I am trying to do is change the color of a gif and png. They are for a website and I just need to change the color of the objects. That is all. Any help in very simple terms would help Simple method if you have very clean colors borders (no antialiasing): 1) Set the foreground color to your final color 2) Start the color selection tool (betwen the magic wand and the scissors in the tools palette). Set the treshold to 0. Click any part of the icon that is with the old color. This will select all the parts of the image that have the very same colors 3) Start the bucket-fill tool (bucket icon). select FG color fill, and Fill whole selection. Click somewhere in the selected areas. 4) Done. More complex method that also covers anti-aliased border: 1) Menu: Colors/Color to alpha... Click on the color bar, and in the next dialog use the color picker on a spot of the color you want to change. This should replace the old color with a checkboard pattern (this indicates the image has become transparent at these places) 2) Set the background color to your final color 3) Open the layers dialog (Ctrl-L or Windows/Dockable dialogs/Layers) 4) Add a new layer (right click and Add new layer), or use the icon with the + at the bottom. In the dialog, use a fill t original oneype of Background color 5) In the layer dialog, drag this dialog under the original one. You'll see this layer through the holes punched at step 1) in the original layer, in effect replacing the color. 6) You can then save the picture directly as GIF/PNG/JPG (Gimp will flatten it automaticaly). Note that if at this point you also save the picture as XCF you can produce other versions with different colors by just replacing the color of the bottom layer. Since I have often seen this question asked to match the color of some background over which the picture appears, and even better solution in this case is to save the picture right after step 1) in a format that support transparency (PNG or GIF). -- Ofnuts ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with image alterations
Hello List - I recently downloaded the GIMP2.6 and have been playing with it in an attempt to modify some existing pictures and generally play with the outcome. Kind of like Mr. Potato Head (hopefully you know what that is) , I am trying to take a part of one picture, say the nose, and transpose it to another picture; or perhaps the lips, eyes, etc. Once I have one aspect copied on the other picture I get stuck making it happen, both in context and melding of image sizes and a “seamless” transition. Could you refer me to the right tutorial, or provide me a facile method to perform this feature using GIMP? Also, how do you rectify the image size so that if the pictures are of different sizes the transposed part looks of appropriate dimension to the host picture. I very much appreciate your time and any input you might afford me. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with image alterations
On 10/11/2010 08:09 PM, David Cooney wrote: Hello List - I recently downloaded the GIMP2.6 and have been playing with it in an attempt to modify some existing pictures and generally play with the outcome. Kind of like Mr. Potato Head (hopefully you know what that is) , I am trying to take a part of one picture, say the nose, and transpose it to another picture; or perhaps the lips, eyes, etc. Once I have one aspect copied on the other picture I get stuck making it happen, both in context and melding of image sizes and a “seamless” transition. Could you refer me to the right tutorial, or provide me a facile method to perform this feature using GIMP? Also, how do you rectify the image size so that if the pictures are of different sizes the transposed part looks of appropriate dimension to the host picture. I very much appreciate your time and any input you might afford me. The right way to do it is to keep all the added bits in their own layer until the end. Layers can be moved, scaled and rotated around with the move, scale and rotate tools in the tools palette. You can combine move and scale quite seamlessly (but if anyone knows how to rotate at the same time, I'll be glad to hear it). Seamless transition between layers is achieved by gradual transparency on the edges. The easy way to achieve it is to feather the selection on a couple of pixels when you copy/paste. A more complete way is to use layer masks that give you full control of the amount of transparency of all pixels in a layer. Basicall you add a mask to the layer in the layers dialog and click on it to make the editable thing. Wherever you apply black the layer image is transparent and where it's white the layer is opaque. You can of course use various levels of grey... so you can literally paint transparency. -- Ofnuts ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
Von: John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com On Sunday 08 August 2010 18:53:22 Owen wrote: Look for the bit that says GIMP help files are available at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/ It appears that the English version of the help file is corrupted. First I get ftp download errors (binary download) for lines that consist only of a carriage return. I did it twice and got the same message. Next when I try to bunzip2 the file I get bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. Input file = gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2, output file = gimp- help-2.6.0-html-en.tar I can keep trying, but is this a known defect? No problems here at all. You could try other mirrors and check if you encounter the same problems. There are currently no know errors with the files on the FTP servers. Regards, Michael -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:13:57 -0400 John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. Hi John, Have a look at http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ and see if that helps Look for the bit that says GIMP help files are available at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/ Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
On Sunday 08 August 2010 18:53:22 Owen wrote: On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:13:57 -0400 John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. Hi John, Have a look at http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ and see if that helps Look for the bit that says GIMP help files are available at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/ Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It appears that the English version of the help file is corrupted. First I get ftp download errors (binary download) for lines that consist only of a carriage return. I did it twice and got the same message. Next when I try to bunzip2 the file I get bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. Input file = gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2, output file = gimp- help-2.6.0-html-en.tar I can keep trying, but is this a known defect? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:17 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: As for myself, I've got 2G RAM, and 1G swap space (big mistake, I know) on a 64-bit linux. I sometimes run out оf memory/swap on a image that is like a little smaller than 3000x3000 when I have more than 20 layers and couple of hours of work on it. Tile cache is at 1024M. Why would you limit your tile-cache size to 1GB if you have 2GB of RAM? You might want to read http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/tile_cache.html Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:12 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It is definitely not trivial to fix this. If this kind of thing cannot be implemented for all formats, then I guess it is a design flaw. How come things like saving a backup copy of the target cannot be implemented in a single place for all file formats? That simply stinks of bad design, sorry. Now, I'll just STFU since I'm not the one to contribute the patch, and hopefully this has been already fixed in the devel branch (I remember reading something about this). Yes, it is a very terrible design and it dates back to the last millenium. But fixing such design flaws in a backward-compatible manner is rather difficult. Doing this correctly is on the list of things to fix if we should ever revamp the file plug-in API. For now we can probably fix it easily for XCF files and with some more effort some of the most often used file plug-ins. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:17 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: As for myself, I've got 2G RAM, and 1G swap space (big mistake, I know) on a 64-bit linux. I sometimes run out оf memory/swap on a image that is like a little smaller than 3000x3000 when I have more than 20 layers and couple of hours of work on it. Tile cache is at 1024M. Why would you limit your tile-cache size to 1GB if you have 2GB of RAM? Because I haven't read the howto? :D You might want to read http://www.gimp.org/unix/howtos/tile_cache.html Thanks for the link. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: For now we can probably fix it easily for XCF files and with some more effort some of the most often used file plug-ins. Well, as someone else has already pointed out, fixing this for XCF-only is a good option. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:29 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: Hi, Also I was really surprised that an auto backup isn't in GIMP already. I used to use a really old, backwoods photo editor and it automatically made a backup file and autosaved it every ten minutes. What you really need for your case is not an auto-backup feature, but atomic save operations. Instead of writing over the existing file when you save, GIMP should write to a temporary file in the target directory. And only if it succeeds in writing this file completely should it move the temporary file over the existing file. That way you wouldn't have lost your file completely. Please feel free to open a bug report for this. Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?) before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix. It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It is definitely not trivial to fix this. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On 06/20/2010 06:45 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:29 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?) before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix. It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It is definitely not trivial to fix this. Doing it for XCF would be enough, especially with the new Save and Export separation we do. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:26 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue than a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old computer with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too much for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :( Ooh, that _is_ a big image. What you can do is repartition the hard drive to give Linux more swap space. It probably ate up all the swap space and killed itself. Even with the large swap space (say 4 or even 8 G) it will be super-slow (RAM is always faster, obviously), but at least it won't die easily. 3000x3000 is not that large. How much RAM do you have and how is the tile-cache size configured in GIMP? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It is definitely not trivial to fix this. If this kind of thing cannot be implemented for all formats, then I guess it is a design flaw. How come things like saving a backup copy of the target cannot be implemented in a single place for all file formats? That simply stinks of bad design, sorry. Now, I'll just STFU since I'm not the one to contribute the patch, and hopefully this has been already fixed in the devel branch (I remember reading something about this). Regards, -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:26 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue than a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old computer with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too much for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :( Ooh, that _is_ a big image. What you can do is repartition the hard drive to give Linux more swap space. It probably ate up all the swap space and killed itself. Even with the large swap space (say 4 or even 8 G) it will be super-slow (RAM is always faster, obviously), but at least it won't die easily. 3000x3000 is not that large. How much RAM do you have and how is the tile-cache size configured in GIMP? I guess it might be on an older machine OP mentioned. As for myself, I've got 2G RAM, and 1G swap space (big mistake, I know) on a 64-bit linux. I sometimes run out оf memory/swap on a image that is like a little smaller than 3000x3000 when I have more than 20 layers and couple of hours of work on it. Tile cache is at 1024M. Regards, -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
I've one more observation to add to this. BIG FAT DISCLAMER: Please, _PLEASE_ don't turn this into just another flame war. Anyway, I don't know if it's just me or not, but Gimp's extremely stable on Linux. I've seen it crash maybe two or three times in past year, and it certainly never crashed when saving images... ever. So, it's another option for those that are having stability issues with Gimp. I first noticed this difference when I was told by a windows user about performance issues with Gimp on Windows, and I installed it at work to see what it was about. And it is quite different, especially comparing the antiquated Windows XP to latest Linux distros in 64-bit incarnations. I myself run Arch Linux, 64-bit version, with Gimp 2.6.8 (in fact the modified version called Painters Studio), and stability- or performance-wize, I've got nothing to complain about, and have certainly never lost any work. Regards, -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
I've one more observation to add to this. BIG FAT DISCLAMER: Please, _PLEASE_ don't turn this into just another flame war. Anyway, I don't know if it's just me or not, but Gimp's extremely stable on Linux. I've seen it crash maybe two or three times in past year, and it certainly never crashed when saving images... ever. So, it's another option for those that are having stability issues with Gimp. I first noticed this difference when I was told by a windows user about performance issues with Gimp on Windows, and I installed it at work to see what it was about. And it is quite different, especially comparing the antiquated Windows XP to latest Linux distros in 64-bit incarnations. I myself run Arch Linux, 64-bit version, with Gimp 2.6.8 (in fact the modified version called Painters Studio), and stability- or performance-wize, I've got nothing to complain about, and have certainly never lost any work. Regards, I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue than a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old computer with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too much for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :( -- Jade (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
Hi, Also I was really surprised that an auto backup isn't in GIMP already. I used to use a really old, backwoods photo editor and it automatically made a backup file and autosaved it every ten minutes. What you really need for your case is not an auto-backup feature, but atomic save operations. Instead of writing over the existing file when you save, GIMP should write to a temporary file in the target directory. And only if it succeeds in writing this file completely should it move the temporary file over the existing file. That way you wouldn't have lost your file completely. Please feel free to open a bug report for this. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I'm running the latest Ubuntu and it's probably more of a hardware issue than a software. When I say Gimp crashed, I mean that it froze up and then exited. I don't know what happened besides that. I have a super old computer with three quarters of a gig of ram and it probably was having a hard time processing such a big image and shut it down. I don't really know. I was working with a 3000 x 3000 image with several layers; it was probably too much for the PC to handle, not Gimp. The file's gone, either way. :( Ooh, that _is_ a big image. What you can do is repartition the hard drive to give Linux more swap space. It probably ate up all the swap space and killed itself. Even with the large swap space (say 4 or even 8 G) it will be super-slow (RAM is always faster, obviously), but at least it won't die easily. You can also add the system monitor applets to your panel, and monitor the swap usage (right-click the newly added applet, and you'll find the appropriate checkbox in the preferences). If swap becomes full, it's time to save the image and restart Gimp. The history of your edits contributes to memory usage, so restarting Gimp will free some. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: Hi, Also I was really surprised that an auto backup isn't in GIMP already. I used to use a really old, backwoods photo editor and it automatically made a backup file and autosaved it every ten minutes. What you really need for your case is not an auto-backup feature, but atomic save operations. Instead of writing over the existing file when you save, GIMP should write to a temporary file in the target directory. And only if it succeeds in writing this file completely should it move the temporary file over the existing file. That way you wouldn't have lost your file completely. Please feel free to open a bug report for this. Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?) before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: he thinks the EXIF data is still in there but he's too busy and I don't know what to do. IIRC, Gimp's format does not have any EXIF data. (And EXIF is genrally a JPEG thing, no?). Try comparing the size of the last save with previous saves, and see if the last one looks large enough to contain useful data. If the last save is too small to fit your image, you probably won't be able to extract useful data. It was originally a camera photo that I used as background for a drawing and he was able to tell me that I had a Canon bla bla bla although he didn't know that. Also, if I had previous saves, I'd be fine... I saved the same file over and over and now it's empty. It's about 70 Kb and I think that's too small. -- Jade (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Also, if I had previous saves, I'd be fine... I saved the same file over and over and now it's empty. It's about 70 Kb and I think that's too small. I think something like this has happened to all of as at some point. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but there's a take-away lesson: every so often do File-Save As and save a copy. I tend to name my files like 'project_name-01', and after an hour or two (or any client revisions) save as 'project_name-02', then '-03', '-04', etc. There's a GIMP plug-in that adds an iterative save option (I've never used it though): http://registry.gimp.org/node/18873 For what it's worth I learned my lesson from Photoshop, not GIMP. It trashed a file I had been working on for over 6 hours and I was only able to retrieve bits and pieces - nothing close to the full document. I had to start over. Over the past 10 years I've seen trashed files at least once from most of the Adobe suite, so I don't think you give up on GIMP just yet. A crash during the save process can be a very dangerous thing, no matter which program you're using. HTH, Chris ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Also, if I had previous saves, I'd be fine... I saved the same file over and over and now it's empty. It's about 70 Kb and I think that's too small. I think something like this has happened to all of as at some point. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but there's a take-away lesson: every so often do File-Save As and save a copy. I tend to name my files like 'project_name-01', and after an hour or two (or any client revisions) save as 'project_name-02', then '-03', '-04', etc. There's a GIMP plug-in that adds an iterative save option (I've never used it though): http://registry.gimp.org/node/18873 For what it's worth I learned my lesson from Photoshop, not GIMP. It trashed a file I had been working on for over 6 hours and I was only able to retrieve bits and pieces - nothing close to the full document. I had to start over. Over the past 10 years I've seen trashed files at least once from most of the Adobe suite, so I don't think you give up on GIMP just yet. A crash during the save process can be a very dangerous thing, no matter which program you're using. HTH, Chris So it's not worth it? If it can't be recovered (even a layer) without jumping through flaming hoops of fire, that's fine. I just don't want to start over until all options have been explored. Also I was really surprised that an auto backup isn't in GIMP already. I used to use a really old, backwoods photo editor and it automatically made a backup file and autosaved it every ten minutes. Thanks for the link... and yes, I've started saving a backup. -- Jade (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I read on several googled pages that it's possible to recover layers from EXIF data, etc, and it would help me out a lot to recover even the line art. EXIF data in 'Extra' information, generally things such as dates, exposure time, if the flash was activated or not, etc. The EXIF data does not contain any graphical info at all, so it won't be of any help for recovering the image. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Jade for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I read on several googled pages that it's possible to recover layers from EXIF data, etc, and it would help me out a lot to recover even the line art. EXIF data in 'Extra' information, generally things such as dates, exposure time, if the flash was activated or not, etc. The EXIF data does not contain any graphical info at all, so it won't be of any help for recovering the image. John Dang. I don't know what he was thinking, then. -- Jade (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
Jade: Just for what it might be worth, here's my ordinary work method. When I decide to start a major project, I give it a name, and use that name for a directory / folder. Then I create a text file, Log.txt using my favorite text editor. I next create a subdirectory Start into which I copy any material from external sources; if I would have to spend much time searching for some item I used, it would get stored in this folder. Information I might want to keep track of about files in the start folder, for example, the name of the source, and the path at the time I found the image, would be listed in the log.txt file. When I start work, I keep progress notes in the log file, for example Started with my image; adjusted color balance to ... Added image2.png as a layer to the image, and converted it to use as a mask. At major break points, for example, if I decide to retrieve something from the kitchen, or if someone comes to the door, if it's been a while since I saved my work, or most importantly, if I reach a point where I'm not sure what to do next, I save the working image as 00n.xcf, where n is the next sequential number. At the same time, I save the log file as 00n.txt. I close the file (and often close GIMP), reopen the files (00n.xcf and 00n.txt), and immediately save the files wioth an incremented name so that subsequent work does not overwrite the previous save. This sounds like a lot of work, but I think it has actually saved me a lot of time, in the number of times I decided a ways down one path, that I should have done it the other way. It's a whole lot easier in this case to save version 010, and reload version 006, and explore the results of taking the other path. And the reason for saving version 010, is that sometimes I only think I would have liked the other path. Finally, I regularly save the main folder in multiple places on different mediums. For example, on two different physical hard drives, or on a physical hard drive and thumb drive. I can't think of a significant file of which I don't have at least two copies. ns ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
Friends The reason behind part of what I wrote: At the same time, I save the log file as 00n.txt. I close the file (and often close GIMP), Partly this is habit from my early years of personal computing, when software I chose to use sometimes had the habit of getting more error prone the longer it was used. I found with various packages, most no longer around, that if I periodically closed down the software, and allowed it to reset itself, that I had fewer abnormal ends. This is not so true with GIMP, and other modern packages, but I still find that I'm much more likely to have a serious problem with GIMP when I've worked on 35 or 40 images during a work session, than when I've worked with 4 or 5. ns ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
The other day I spent an inordinate amount of time seriously using GIMP for the first time on a drawing. I spent a lot of time for an okay drawing and I saved many, many times. Unfortunately, on my last save, the program crashed and apparently corrupted my file. While I was working on the drawing, I could see a thumbnail of the file on my desktop mirroring the work I was doing (ie: I knew it was saving correctly), but after I brought it back up after the crash, my file was empty; it had no layers, no anything but a transparent background. My friend, who is technologically more advanced than me, said that he thinks the EXIF data is still in there but he's too busy and I don't know what to do. I read on several googled pages that it's possible to recover layers from EXIF data, etc, and it would help me out a lot to recover even the line art. Any help is greatly appreciated! I'd really hate to leave GIMP on such a bad note. -- Jade (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! ERROR!
Ok, so i have used Gimp for about a year on my macbook. I've recently downloaded it on my PC but this error message pops up! : GLib-ERROR **:gmem.c.136:failed to allocate 3472080 bytes aborting... -and then this follow-up error message... Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Runtime Error! Program:c:\Program Files\Gimp-2\bin\gimp-2.6.exe This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. The details: Ok, i first downloaded Gimp 2.6.4 with Service Pack 1, and this error came up. I decided to uninstall it and reinstall it. same problem. I uninstalled it again and this time, i upgraded to Service Pack 2 installed the latest version, 2.6.8 i believe... the same error messages pop up. I have a Dell and Windows XP SP2. It doesnt do this 100% of the time, but most of the time. Sometimes it occurs during startup, sometimes while opening an image, sometimes in the middle of editing. after the error message, Gimp closes automatically. PLEASE HELP. -- Marie (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! ERROR!
Marie, Some relevant questions: Where did you get the 2.6.8 package you installed? Did you use the Windows installer, or did you try to build your own WIN XP version from source? If you attempted to build from source, it looks like you might have an incorrect version of one of the supporting packages. Are you running 32 or 64 bit WIN XP? Meantime, if it were me, I'd 1) unistall GIMP, and back up data on your system; 2) visit the MS website, and upgrade your WIN XP from SP2 to SP3; 3) download a fresh copy of the WIN 2.6.8 installer by following the links on the download page on the GIMP website. regards ns ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
Hi ya all! Even thou I'm new to this forum, I've used gimp for like 2 years now so I know a thing or two about it! BUT RIGHT NOW I NEED HELP! I was just finishing a drawing and then I pressed the save button and saved it. Right after that I turned of my computer *Gimp said that the drawing was saved btw* But when I turned it on again and open Gimp, then try to open the drawing Gimp tells me that the file is broken, in fact so broken that it can't open it! Help me please I've been drawing on it for like 3 whole days! And it's really important that I recover it! Is it anyway for me to save it? Please help me! -- Anna (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On 05/23/2010 03:55 PM, Anna wrote: Right after that I turned off my computer Just to make sure: Did you turn it off by cutting power, or did you turn it off in a proper/nice way? / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
Hello Anna, When asking for help on any forum, it is a good idea to let people know a minimum of information: 1. Which platform are you using? [Mac OSX, Linux, FreeBSD, Other?] 2. Which version of The Gimp are you using? 3. Which file format did you save the work as? [.xcf, .jpg, .png, .other?] da Bear Hi Bear, Sorry, I completely forgot kinda stressed you see xD I use Windows XP, I have gimp 2.6 (I downloaded the newest one I think) and I saved it as a xcf file. Hugs Anna -- Adlevo (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
Anna wrote: I was just finishing a drawing and then I pressed the save button and saved it. Right after that I turned of my computer *Gimp said that the drawing was saved btw* But when I turned it on again and open Gimp, then try to open the drawing Gimp tells me that the file is broken, in fact so broken that it can't open it! Help me please I've been drawing on it for like 3 whole days! And it's really important that I recover it! Is it anyway for me to save it? Please help me! My best guess at this point is that GIMP gave you the message that the file was saved, because GIMP was all through with it, but that the Operating system was not finished writing the file to the disk. When you shut off the power, nothing further got written, and you have a corrupted file image on the disk. If you happen to have made incremental back-ups (that is, saving your work periodically, under different names--like myfile1.xcf, myfile2.xcf, c--like every 20 minutes or so, this would be a time when they would be quite useful, as you could simply go back to the last back up. Otherwise, if you happen to be skilled with low level file editing and the details of the ~.xcf format, you might be able to open the image in a file editor, and recover some of the information in the file, but since I follow the incremental back-up method religiously, I've never had to do that. ns ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
My best guess at this point is that GIMP gave you the message that the file was saved, because GIMP was all through with it, but that the Operating system was not finished writing the file to the disk. When you shut off the power, nothing further got written, and you have a corrupted file image on the disk. If you happen to have made incremental back-ups (that is, saving your work periodically, under different names--like myfile1.xcf, myfile2.xcf, c--like every 20 minutes or so, this would be a time when they would be quite useful, as you could simply go back to the last back up. Otherwise, if you happen to be skilled with low level file editing and the details of the ~.xcf format, you might be able to open the image in a file editor, and recover some of the information in the file, but since I follow the incremental back-up method religiously, I've never had to do that. ns Sounds logical! Dammit! I'm doomed! The one time I decide not to save backup xD I hate myself so much right now! But what kind of file editor are we talking about here? Like another program or something like that? Sad hugs, Anna -- Anna (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:32:06 +0200 (CEST), Anna wrote: But what kind of file editor are we talking about here? Like another program or something like that? Hex editor - not something for the faint-hearted. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
Some kind of Hex editor I would guess. Johnny Rosenberg I'm totally doomed xD Well thanks for the help anyways^^ -- Anna (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
Well, now you know why you should NEVER do that. Let this be an important lesson for you. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for you in this case... Johnny Rosenberg Johnny Rosenberg Thanks anyway Johnny ^^ -- Adlevo (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:32:06 +0200 (CEST), Anna wrote: But what kind of file editor are we talking about here? Like another program or something like that? Hex editor - not something for the faint-hearted. So like. Are there any good tips on how to use it:p Cause I've downloaded it but. ehm, no. I really just went, Hell no when I saw it :P Any idea on how I might proceed? Anna -- Adlevo (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Anna wrote: Some kind of Hex editor I would guess. Johnny Rosenberg I'm totally doomed xD Well thanks for the help anyways^^ To help prevent that sort of thing in the future, please give the filesystem time to flush everything to disk before hitting the power switch. Modern operating systems, windows included, don't have a clue that your finger is headed for the switch. And modern operating systems also have a shutdown procedure that is designed to make sure everything is all cleaned up and put away, then they can kill the power themselves once its safe to do so. So please do use the systems shutdown, its a good way to have confidence that it will all be there the next time you boot it up. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) management, n.: The art of getting other people to do all the work. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sun, 23 May 2010 17:01:06 +0200 (CEST), Adlevo wrote: So like. Are there any good tips on how to use it:p Cause I've downloaded it but. ehm, no. I really just went, Hell no when I saw it :P Any idea on how I might proceed? First just use it to look if there's anything in the file (that it's not empty or blank - because if it is, there's no point in doing anything else). If it's not empty, you'll need to find out what's wrong with it - but since you don't know the XCF format, you'd have to learn that first, which will definitely take longer than 3 days (and even then it's not guaranteed that you'll be able to recover the image). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
First just use it to look if there's anything in the file (that it's not empty or blank - because if it is, there's no point in doing anything else). If it's not empty, you'll need to find out what's wrong with it - but since you don't know the XCF format, you'd have to learn that first, which will definitely take longer than 3 days (and even then it's not guaranteed that you'll be able to recover the image). Well there's some numbers there and stuff. So then hope ain't completely lost:P Jeee, do I sound like a blond girl xD But this really ain't my field xD But tnx anway3 -- Adlevo (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On 23 May 2010 17:04, bhaaluu bhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Anna, When asking for help on any forum, it is a good idea to let people know a minimum of information: 1. Which platform are you using? [Mac OSX, Linux, FreeBSD, Other?] 2. Which version of The Gimp are you using? 3. Which file format did you save the work as? [.xcf, .jpg, .png, .other?] da Bear 4) A descriptive subject -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sunday, May 23, 2010 07:40:44 am Anna wrote: Some kind of Hex editor I would guess. Johnny Rosenberg I'm totally doomed xD Well thanks for the help anyways^^ An additional possibility is a local computer shop may have ability to recover corrupt files. But it will cost something. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:52:13 -0700, upscope wrote: An additional possibility is a local computer shop may have ability to recover corrupt files. But it will cost something. Unlikely in this case, since the file probably hasn't even reached the disk. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:10:59 +0200 (CEST) Adlevo for...@gimpusers.com wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2010 17:46:48 +0200 (CEST), Adlevo wrote: Well there's some numbers there and stuff. So then hope ain't completely lost:P Jeee, do I sound like a blond girl xD But this really ain't my field xD But tnx anway3 Nah, it's just that reconstructing even trivial files is a complicated process (and GIMP's XCF format is anything but trivial). Heh, yeah^^ Tnx anway ^^ I appreciate the help3 You may consider a backup utility such as in http://registry.gimp.org/node/14246 to be a useful tool for your workflow. Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP Using 2.6.6- Brushes are just spots!
I just downloaded GIMP 2.6.6. I am trying to get some work done in it, however, any time I try to use a brush, pencil, eraser, pretty much anything, I just get boxes, spotting, and straight lines. I can not seem to get a circle. I was going to do some portrait work with this, but I am not able to if it will only give me boxes. Does anyone know what could be causing this? I have been using Photoshop, but I wanted to try something different. I know that this can be fixed, does anyone know how? Please help! Thank you. -- Kelley (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] HELP Using 2.6.6- Brushes are just spots!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/pixy333/g.jpg this is a link to a sample of what the brush does. This doesn't show the squaring off, but is shows the dotting. It should be one continuous line. -- Kelley (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP Using 2.6.6- Brushes are just spots!
Kelley for...@gimpusers.com wrote: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/pixy333/g.jpg this is a link to a sample of what the brush does. This doesn't show the squaring off, but is shows the dotting. It should be one continuous line. You are using a 3x3 brush and scaling it five times. Better select a 15x15 fuzzy round brush at scale 1. -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help please, Page Setup not working
Hi, For some reason the settings in GIMP File-Page Setup don't stick. I set the paper type to Letter and Orientation to Landscape, hit ok, and when I come back in to GIMP File-Page Setup, they're set right back again to a paper size A4 and Orientation to Portrait. This ends up blocking me from printing in Landscape mode, which I was able to do at one time and need to do for my current graphics. Can you tell me any ideas to change this ... even a file to manually change, perhaps where these Page Setup settings are stored? Thanks, Reto ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help Request
How do I get rid of the toolbox menu without closing gimp? I run a windows xp sp3, gimp 2.6.8 with lots of add-ons Thanks, Mike ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help Request
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Michael Pesta mp0097...@email.lmc.eduwrote: How do I get rid of the toolbox menu without closing gimp? I run a windows xp sp3, gimp 2.6.8 with lots of add-ons Thanks, Mike As far as I know there is no way to do what you ask. You can resize the toolbox to make it smaller, move something else on top of it or move the toolbox to the edge of the screen, but I do not think there is anyway to get rid of it. Mike ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help Request
On 03/21/2010 12:51 PM, Mike Williams wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Michael Pesta mp0097...@email.lmc.edu mailto:mp0097...@email.lmc.edu wrote: How do I get rid of the toolbox menu without closing gimp? I run a windows xp sp3, gimp 2.6.8 with lots of add-ons Thanks, Mike As far as I know there is no way to do what you ask. You can resize the toolbox to make it smaller, move something else on top of it or move the toolbox to the edge of the screen, but I do not think there is anyway to get rid of it. Tab key toggles sub-windows (toolbox, layers, etc) on and off when cursor is in an active GIMP window. This is quick and quite convenient, especially when the image window is maximized. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help scripting transform and copy/paste for photobooth automation?
Many thanks! Your advice was VERY helpful and saved many hours of head banging on the wall. After some more edits, I've got my script working perfectly. My only remaining question now is if there is a way to disable the Gimp Output cmd window that appears in Windows XP when running in batch mode. I plan to set it up as an automated job, and I don't want windows being flooded with cmd windows that say Press a key to close this window. Any way to disable the window or have it close automatically when the script finishes? -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:12:43 -0500 From: saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Help scripting transform and copy/paste for photobooth automation? To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: 20091208111243.oct60j1bkssog...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed The greatest problem with your code is that 'gimp-image-resize' does NOT scale the image to a different size, it merely changes the canvas size of the image. If you want to scale your captured image, you should use 'gimp-image-scale' or 'gimp-image-scale-full'. Also, there is not much point to performing a rectangle select on the target image. I suspect that your intent in doing so is to have the upper-left corner of the pasted buffer align with the upper-left corner of the selection; however, this is not how 'gimp-edit-paste' works. Instead, you should change the offsets of the floating selection after pasting: (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable FALSE))) (gimp-layer-set-offsets sel-float 20 20) (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float) As long as your copy buffer is the proper size, there is no need to perform a rectangle select of the targeted region. However, if you'd rather be absolutely certain that nothing outside the targeted region gets modified, you should select the region and use the Paste Into option of 'gimp-edit-paste' (it is still necessary to change the offsets). (gimp-rect-select image 20 20 563 368 REPLACE 0 0) (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable TRUE))) (gimp-layer-set-offsets sel-float 20 20) (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help scripting transform and copy/paste for photobooth automation?
All, I'm new to script-fu, and brushing up on my rusty Scheme, which I haven't used in about 15 years! I'm trying to write a script that will help me automate creating a photobooth-like experience. I have a template with a space for 4 images, and some captured images that I want to scale down and copy/paste into the template. Here is my code, which oddly, which alternates between working properly, throwing an error about a bad drawable ID, and saving the template without the transformed, pasted image. Also, any tips on an appropriate way to pass 4 filename arguments to the script (as i will eventually be running it on the command line) would be much appreciated! (define (script-fu-create-filmstrip) (let* ( ; open the template (image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE c:\\photobooth strip.jpg c:\\photobooth strip.jpg ) ) ) (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image) ) ) ; open captured image (cap1 (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE C:\\Img0014.jpg C:\\Img0014.jpg ) ) ) (cap1-d (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer cap1) ) ) (sel-float) ) ; scale down captured image (gimp-image-resize cap1 563 368 0 0) (gimp-selection-all cap1) (gimp-edit-copy cap1) (gimp-rect-select image 20 20 563 368 REPLACE 0 0 ) ; Paste captured image (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable FALSE))) ; Anchor the selection (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float) (gimp-selection-none image) (gimp-image-flatten image ) (set! drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image) ) ) (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable c:\\test.jpg c:\\test.jpg ) ) ) (script-fu-register script-fu-create-filmstrip;func name Film Strip ;menu label Edits the filmstrip file and replaces\ the placeholder boxes with camera images ;description Author ;author copyright 2009 ;copyright notice December 7, 2010 ;date created ;image type that the script works on ) (script-fu-menu-register script-fu-create-filmstrip Toolbox/Xtn/Photobooth) Any help to this Gimp scripting newbie would be much appreciated! ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help scripting transform and copy/paste for photobooth automation?
The greatest problem with your code is that 'gimp-image-resize' does NOT scale the image to a different size, it merely changes the canvas size of the image. If you want to scale your captured image, you should use 'gimp-image-scale' or 'gimp-image-scale-full'. Also, there is not much point to performing a rectangle select on the target image. I suspect that your intent in doing so is to have the upper-left corner of the pasted buffer align with the upper-left corner of the selection; however, this is not how 'gimp-edit-paste' works. Instead, you should change the offsets of the floating selection after pasting: (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable FALSE))) (gimp-layer-set-offsets sel-float 20 20) (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float) As long as your copy buffer is the proper size, there is no need to perform a rectangle select of the targeted region. However, if you'd rather be absolutely certain that nothing outside the targeted region gets modified, you should select the region and use the Paste Into option of 'gimp-edit-paste' (it is still necessary to change the offsets). (gimp-rect-select image 20 20 563 368 REPLACE 0 0) (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable TRUE))) (gimp-layer-set-offsets sel-float 20 20) (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float) Quoting Jason Yau booyau...@gmail.com: All, I'm new to script-fu, and brushing up on my rusty Scheme, which I haven't used in about 15 years! I'm trying to write a script that will help me automate creating a photobooth-like experience. I have a template with a space for 4 images, and some captured images that I want to scale down and copy/paste into the template. Here is my code, which oddly, which alternates between working properly, throwing an error about a bad drawable ID, and saving the template without the transformed, pasted image. *SNIPPED* ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help needed with text
Tom C. wrote: I am just starting to use GIMP. I am having trouble getting the effect I want. I have 2 photos one over the other. I want to put text over the upper layer and have the lower layer show through. If I put a mask over the upper layer and draw on it with black it does just what I want. Problem is I want to use text not draw on it. Every way I try to add text I get a new layer, I seem to get text on the mask for the upper layer. thanks in advance for any help with this. Text to selection, select top layer with photo (make sure he can be transparent), press button Del. Dmitry, Thank you for the reply, but I have had no success with this problem as yet. In your reply...(make sure he can be transparent), how do I do that? Thanks Tom -- Tom C. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help needed with text
I am just starting to use GIMP. I am having trouble getting the effect I want. I have 2 photos one over the other. I want to put text over the upper layer and have the lower layer show through. If I put a mask over the upper layer and draw on it with black it does just what I want. Problem is I want to use text not draw on it. Every way I try to add text I get a new layer, I seem to get text on the mask for the upper layer. thanks in advance for any help with this. -- Tom C. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed with text
On Sunday 04 October 2009, Tom C. wrote: I am just starting to use GIMP. I am having trouble getting the effect I want. I have 2 photos one over the other. I want to put text over the upper layer and have the lower layer show through. If I put a mask over the upper layer and draw on it with black it does just what I want. Problem is I want to use text not draw on it. Every way I try to add text I get a new layer, I seem to get text on the mask for the upper layer. thanks in advance for any help with this. Short hint: Text to selection, change to mask, fill with black(or white, whatever you want) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help needed with text
On Sunday 04 October 2009, Tom C. wrote: I am just starting to use GIMP. I am having trouble getting the effect I want. I have 2 photos one over the other. I want to put text over the upper layer and have the lower layer show through. If I put a mask over the upper layer and draw on it with black it does just what I want. Problem is I want to use text not draw on it. Every way I try to add text I get a new layer, I seem to get text on the mask for the upper layer. thanks in advance for any help with this. Short hint: Text to selection, change to mask, fill with black(or white, whatever you want) Daniel, Thank you for replying. I must not be getting your hint. I add my two layers, add a mask (regular) to the top layer. Bring up text and add it. Then I select add text to selection then I select the mack and fill with black. I tried FG and BG. No luck. What am I doing wrong? -- Tom C. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help needed with text
On Sunday 04 October 2009, Tom C. wrote: I am just starting to use GIMP. I am having trouble getting the effect I want. I have 2 photos one over the other. I want to put text over the upper layer and have the lower layer show through. If I put a mask over the upper layer and draw on it with black it does just what I want. Problem is I want to use text not draw on it. Every way I try to add text I get a new layer, I seem to get text on the mask for the upper layer. thanks in advance for any help with this. Short hint: Text to selection, change to mask, fill with black(or white, whatever you want) Daniel, Thank you for replying. I must not be getting your hint. I add my two layers, add a mask (regular) to the top layer. Bring up text and add it. Then I select add text to selection then I select the mack and fill with black. I tried FG and BG. No luck. What am I doing wrong? Daniel, I should add that I did get the opposite of what I wanted to work. All of the top layer went transparent and the text stayed. I want the text to go transparent, so the parts of the underlying picture shows through the text. -- Tom C. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed with text
On Sunday 04 October 2009, Tom C. wrote: then I select the mask and fill with black. I tried FG and BG. If the mask is white before, that layer should've been completely opaque, so filling the selection with black (simply dragdrop from the color patch onto the image) should make the layer below shine through. Of course, if the upper layer doesn't have a mask yet, simply choosing from selection (inverted) when creating the mask would've been the most straightforward way. Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
Hi, I'm trying to figure out what the problem is but you mention too many things so I'm afraid I'm getting confused. Could you please give a step by step example of what you are doing and what happens when you are doing it, so I or someone else here can help find out what is going wrong? Thanks, Jolie I am using Gimp 2.67 I am modifying textures for a video game. The video game applies a special effect to the areas of the texture that are not 100% transparent or 100% opaque. I am trying to make certain parts of the texture 100% transparent so that it is invisible in-game and not subject to the special effect. I have used the eraser, rectangular select, and free select tools, and they all have the same problems. Basically, what happens is that the area outside of my selections or erasing also seems to be affected. I have antialiasing off for the free select tool. I have hard-edge on for the eraser, and all the brush dynamics turned off for it. The eraser is at Circle (05) which is a square, at the scale of 1.00 I have tried using SelectSharpen The rectangular select tool has antialiasing checked and greyed out, so that I cannot uncheck it. I believe this was introduced in one of the most recent versions (I recently upgraded' to gimp 2.67) as I don't remember seeing that in a version I used to use, I think it was 2.1 or 2.2. I also don't remember having this problem with those versions. The areas outside of my selections and erasing are being affected, so that in-game the special effects are applied to areas I don't want them to be. I have looked in the alpha channel, and there appears to be no actual transparency in those areas, it seems to be solid black. Is there anyway to ensure that the areas outside of my selections will not be affected? Also, I would like to know how to copy the exact alpha channel from one image to another image, without the original alpha channel being changed. I have tried doing this before but the alpha channel always looks different when pasted into the second image. Thanks! -- jolie S (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 17:16 +0200, jolie S wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the problem is but you mention too many things so I'm afraid I'm getting confused. I didn't see the original question, but let me see if I can help that user. Basically, what happens is that the area outside of my selections or erasing also seems to be affected. I have antialiasing off for the free select tool. I have hard-edge on for the eraser, and all the brush dynamics turned off for it. The eraser is at Circle (05) which is a square, at the scale of 1.00 I have tried using SelectSharpen I assume you're trying to apply transparency directly to the layer content. Don't do that. Make your texture in an image layer and then apply transparency through the use of a layer mask. White areas in the mask will have no transparency when you save the file. The areas outside of my selections and erasing are being affected, so that in-game the special effects are applied to areas I don't want them to be. Does the game operate on alpha channels values 0 or does it operate if sees *any* alpha channel? If the latter, then you have to make separate textures for the areas that will and won't be affected by game play. If the former then the layer masks should work for you. I have looked in the alpha channel, and there appears to be no actual transparency in those areas, it seems to be solid black. You know, after all these years I can't remember if 0 is transparent or 255 is transparent in the alpha channel. I thought 255 was fully opaque. But my brain is full. I think that bit of info slipped out on the last refill of the tank. Also, I would like to know how to copy the exact alpha channel from one image to another image, without the original alpha channel being changed. If you use a layer mask you can make a selection of the mask, add a new mask to the other image and then copy in the old mask over the new mask. -- Michael J. HammelPrincipal Software Engineer mjham...@graphics-muse.org http://graphics-muse.org -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. - Credited to the Dalai Lama. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
Hi, I'm trying to figure out what the problem is but you mention too many things so I'm afraid I'm getting confused. Could you please give a step by step example of what you are doing and what happens when you are doing it, so I or someone else here can help find out what is going wrong? Thanks, Jolie Sorry about that. I figured that I wasn't explaining it very well, but I wasn't sure how to rephrase it better. Michael was right that I was trying to apply transparency on the layer directly, by using the delete button on selected areas. I assume you're trying to apply transparency directly to the layer content. Don't do that. Make your texture in an image layer and then apply transparency through the use of a layer mask. White areas in the mask will have no transparency when you save the file. Thanks that really helps. Does the game operate on alpha channels values 0 or does it operate if sees *any* alpha channel? If it's anything more than 0 but less than 255, it applies the special effect. If it is completely black 0,0,0, it becomes invisible/completely transparent. If it's completely white 255,255,255 than it's opaque and no special effects are applied. If you use a layer mask you can make a selection of the mask, add a new mask to the other image and then copy in the old mask over the new mask. Thank you Michael, your tips are very useful. That makes editing alpha channels a lot easier. I can still see the special effects where they aren't supposed to be, but that's only if I change the settings so that the model (that uses the texture) is scaled to become larger. So that special effect is still there, but fainter. Maybe there's something I'm not doing to remove this completely, but you've been a great help. -- frustrated1 (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
I'm not sure, but it seems like rather than the areas outside of selection being affected, not all of the selected area is becoming transparent. I used the paint bucket (which is set to 100% opacity) to fill the selection in the layer mask (which is acting as the alpha channel) with white. However, the left-most column of the square selection was not completely transparent in-game. It might just be something wrong with the game, because I looked at the color values of the area I wanted to make completely transparent and they are all 0,0,0. Thanks again for the alpha channel tips, I really appreciate it. Also, I'm using .tga files. Maybe RLE compression has something to do with this, but I always have it unchecked. -- frustrated1 (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 23:54 +0200, frustrated1 wrote: I used the paint bucket (which is set to 100% opacity) to fill the selection in the layer mask (which is acting as the alpha channel) with white. Create a white layer mask initially. Make your selection in the image window (make sure the layer mask is active in the Layers dialog by clicking on the mask thumbnail). Reset the FG/BG colors by typing D in the image window (resets to default colors). Then drag the foreground color (black) into the selection. That adds black to the selected area in the layer mask. The black area is the area that will be transparent in your saved image. If the selection is not feathered then the edge of the selection should (I believe) not be anti-aliased and should either be completely transparent or completely opaque. However, the left-most column of the square selection was not completely transparent in-game. It might just be something wrong with the game, because I looked at the color values of the area I wanted to make completely transparent and they are all 0,0,0. Might be a bug in the game. Expand your selection by 1 pixel and do it again. Also, I'm using .tga files. Maybe RLE compression has something to do with this, but I always have it unchecked. No idea. It's possible, but that would probably be a game issue, not a GIMP issue. -- Michael J. HammelPrincipal Software Engineer mjham...@graphics-muse.org http://graphics-muse.org -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Nor, are they likely to end up with either.-- Benjamin Franklin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp Transparency/Alpha Channel
Just out of curiosity, do you know if the game engine you're using is expecting a premultiplied or non-premultiplied alpha channel? My assumption would be the former, but I figured I'd ask to be sure. Jason frustrated1 for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I'm not sure, but it seems like rather than the areas outside of selection being affected, not all of the selected area is becoming transparent. I used the paint bucket (which is set to 100% opacity) to fill the selection in the layer mask (which is acting as the alpha channel) with white. However, the left-most column of the square selection was not completely transparent in-game. It might just be something wrong with the game, because I looked at the color values of the area I wanted to make completely transparent and they are all 0,0,0. Thanks again for the alpha channel tips, I really appreciate it. Also, I'm using .tga files. Maybe RLE compression has something to do with this, but I always have it unchecked. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: BTW, the crop tool doc I pointed to is basically the same help you get if you hover over Tools-Transform-Crop (or the toolbox icon of Crop, presumably -- I removed all tools from my toolbox, thus I do not know) and press Shift+F1 for context help. Doing similarly for the Image-Autocrop menu item brings me to file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/plug-in-autocrop.html (don't bother clicking on that, it's a local link.. although, it MAY work in your system if your installation is similar enough) Which also links to the Crop tool and Crop Layer command. I literally never use that functionality myself, but it sounds like you would benefit from knowing about Shift+F1. Just F1 by itself is not context-sensitive. (there's also the menu item Help-Context help, which looks up the help on some thing (which it waits for you to click on) On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Autocrop crops the image automatically by detecting blank space surrounding the image content. That I'd argue about as its fresh in my mind. Autocrop, when viewing the image I had moved to the top of the canvas in order to get rid of the blanked area above it, but that left about 2/5ths of the canvas at the bottom of the image blank, it having been selected and cut using what I thought was a crop function. I agree that it can behave in a very confusing way when you have a selection active. IMO it doesn't make sense to use it when a selection is currently defined, we should either ignore the selection or bail out saying 'this doesn't make any sort of sense to perform when there is a selection. use Select-None and then rerun Autocrop, if that is really what you meant' AutoCrop always reported there was nothing to crop, as did zealous crop. Zealous crop does the same sort of thing, except for each individual object in the image (one of the effects of this is that the spaces between images are reduced. This is often handy for webpage authors.) images? I meant parts? mini-images, maybe. When it doesn't dump that portion of the canvas with it, leaving blank canvas behind, taking up space in the image. That to me is not a crop, its an erase. Even a 'cut' should take the canvas/paper with it, and a paste should add it back in. But I realize too that that might be several times more difficult to code. It seems to me that you are thinking in terms of an infinite canvas (which is relatively unsurprising given the background you have). However the canvas in GIMP is strictly finite, as is the case with many painting and photo-editing programs. The new system in GEGL, that is being integrated into GIMP, brings the possibility of support for an infinite canvas (and I'm sure it will be discussed, when the time comes). However, such support would be strictly optional if implemented. Why? Because the behaviour you describe (shrinking when cut, expanding when pasting) is actually quite rude for a lot of usage patterns (mainly if the image is going to end up on the web), where the coherency of layouts depends on images remaining exactly the same size. Expanding for pasting is not automatic, but it's pretty easy to do manually: 1. Paste whatever you want, where you want. 2. Image-Fit canvas to Layers 3. Click the New Layer button to make a new layer out of the pasted content 4. Rightclick on that layer and select 'Merge Down' (the above is only needed when pasting actually would expand the canvas and you want it to.) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
Cropping an image is a really simple operation. In her recent book Beginning GIMP From Novice to Professional Second Edition, Akkana Peck discusses how to do it on pp 35-38. I highly recommend you get the book, it is worth every penny. If you prefer to scale an image, look on pp 21. Bob On 05/03/2009 10:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. Really guys, I fail to see why such an operation requires I post to the list each and every time I want to do it. So how DO it go about getting rid of, totally and forever if I haven't saved a backup copy, those parts of an image that should never ever see the light of day, or worse yet, waste bandwidth when it has to be uploaded at a hair over 50k/sec on my adsl circuit. Just turning it white doesn't cut it, I want it gone. This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg Just as soon as I reboot to a kernel with working networking that is. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. Really guys, I fail to see why such an operation requires I post to the list each and every time I want to do it. So how DO it go about getting rid of, totally and forever if I haven't saved a backup copy, those parts of an image that should never ever see the light of day, or worse yet, waste bandwidth when it has to be uploaded at a hair over 50k/sec on my adsl circuit. Just turning it white doesn't cut it, I want it gone. This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg Just as soon as I reboot to a kernel with working networking that is. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Quit worrying about your health. It'll go away. -- Robert Orben ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Sun, 03 May 2009 22:44:23 -0400 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. Really guys, I fail to see why such an operation requires I post to the list each and every time I want to do it. So how DO it go about getting rid of, totally and forever if I haven't saved a backup copy, those parts of an image that should never ever see the light of day, or worse yet, waste bandwidth when it has to be uploaded at a hair over 50k/sec on my adsl circuit. Just turning it white doesn't cut it, I want it gone. This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg I have trouble working out what your problem is. a. Select crop tool b. select area you want c. press enter d. save as Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, I do this all the time, I just make my selection with rectangle select and then use Image-Crop to selection. It's possible to do it even quicker with the dedicated Crop tool. or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg I can see your problem is that you are behaving in an arrogant and demanding fashion. This also leads me to doubt whether you have done a reasonable amount of research on this problem, especially as the first hit for Google search GIMP crop image to selection includes instructions for cropping using the Crop tool. In case it wasn't clear to you.. 'Erasing part of the image' does not in any way equate to 'reducing the area of the image'. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
Owen (rc...@pcug.org.au) wrote (in part) (on 2009-05-03 at 23:13): On Sun, 03 May 2009 22:44:23 -0400 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. To get checkerboard pattern replacing make sure the background layer has alpha channel (right-click on layers menu and select [Add alpha channel]. If a layer has NO alpha channel its name will appear in bold in the layer menu and cutting or cropping will show the background color. To just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print ... maybe you want Image-[Fit image to canvas]? -- Regards ... Alec (bura...@gmail WinLiveMess - alec.m.burg...@skype) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Sunday 03 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, I do this all the time, I just make my selection with rectangle select and then use Image-Crop to selection. And I believe I tried that at one point in my 10,000 monkeys experimentation, and was left with a blank view, hello undo... It's possible to do it even quicker with the dedicated Crop tool. or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg which is now fixed, thanks to a previous poster. I can see your problem is that you are behaving in an arrogant and demanding fashion. Because it has been a constant source of confusion to this old fart (I'm now 74) since my first contact with gimp in about 1999 or so. Every other selection that I tried, wiped the part I wanted to save, often via the leaky lasso theory. One gets tired of reaching for the edit undo function. FWIW, if I was in the darkroom making my own prints, a process that even in color, I am familiar enough with that I made my own color paper developer. Far more stable colorwise than what I could buy at the photo stores 30 years ago when I was doing it several times a week. I would do this crop by running my Bessler 23c/w/dichro head on up the rack and adjusting the easel to get exactly what I want, so automatically I wasn't even concious of doing it. That is why I find it so difficult to make gimp do it. This also leads me to doubt whether you have done a reasonable amount of research on this problem, especially as the first hit for Google search GIMP crop image to selection includes instructions for cropping using the Crop tool. I didn't. Why should google have better instructions on running the gimp than its own help has? In case it wasn't clear to you.. 'Erasing part of the image' does not in any way equate to 'reducing the area of the image'. David Ok, what does the autocrop and zealous crop function actually do then? They do not obviously do this. The erase functions should be labeled as erase, not crop, or some $5 equ prefixed *crop. To this old darkroom techy, 'crop' means what you don't want never makes it to the print paper in the first place even if you have to block it with the easels blades and trim the paper to some odd size once its dry again. I have even saved it and reloaded it to a new window, and of course all this blank space is still part of the image it loads. So please don't call an 'erase' function a 'crop', its scattered all through the menus miss-labeled as a crop. It is not. It just adds fuel to the fire of frustration. Now, please take this as constructive, I don't intend to get into a big argument about nomenclature. But to me, the word crop is often miss-used in the menu's. Thanks David. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The future is a myth created by insurance salesmen and high school counselors. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Sunday 03 May 2009, Alec Burgess wrote: Owen (rc...@pcug.org.au) wrote (in part) (on 2009-05-03 at 23:13): On Sun, 03 May 2009 22:44:23 -0400 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. To get checkerboard pattern replacing make sure the background layer has alpha channel (right-click on layers menu and select [Add alpha channel]. If a layer has NO alpha channel its name will appear in bold in the layer menu and cutting or cropping will show the background color. To just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print ... maybe you want Image-[Fit image to canvas]? ISTR I tried that in some previous incarnation of gimp, but because it was just erased, the 'canvas' was still wasted. I did try to fiddle with canvas size this time, but that adjusted the whole image without changing the ratio of image vs canvas, so that was just another edit-undo to me. :) Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Let me do my TRIBUTE to FISHNET STOCKINGS ... ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, Alec Burgess wrote: Owen (rc...@pcug.org.au) wrote (in part) (on 2009-05-03 at 23:13): On Sun, 03 May 2009 22:44:23 -0400 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; Latest gimp-2.6 from fedora installed, and once again I am attempting to crop an image and cannot. Why is it so difficult to select a rectangular area of the image, like the whole top 1/3 or the whole bottom 1/3, and just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print. But while I can make the 'canvas' white, I cannot actually cut that part of the canvas and toss it in /dev/null, which should be indicated by the checkerboard pattern replacing it. To get checkerboard pattern replacing make sure the background layer has alpha channel (right-click on layers menu and select [Add alpha channel]. If a layer has NO alpha channel its name will appear in bold in the layer menu and cutting or cropping will show the background color. To just plain crop it just as if I'd taken the paper cutters to the print ... maybe you want Image-[Fit image to canvas]? ISTR I tried that in some previous incarnation of gimp, but because it was just erased, the 'canvas' was still wasted. I did try to fiddle with canvas size this time, but that adjusted the whole image without changing the ratio of image vs canvas, so that was just another edit-undo to me. :) When you cannot find a clear answer to some question in the manual, most probably it is because your question is ill formulated. This is why searching Google may be of some help: maybe some other people stated the same question in similar terms, and got a meaningful answer. Thus, before accusing others of not doing what you would like, please ask yourself what exactly you want. You use the term crop, which you explain with reference to scissors on a printed paper. Then, why do you refer to transparency and the checkerboard pattern used for making it visible in GIMP? You want to crop your image? Then do use the crop tool, found in the Toolbox and represented by a cutter icon! Or better, use Shift+C. Then delimit the rectangle you want to keep in your image, and press Enter. That's done: the other parts of the image are discarded, and the canvas is now the exact size of the remaining part. Do not use Autocrop or Zealous crop, which are automatic tools made for removing a frame or a one-color area in an image. Erasing some part of your image is something completely different, and is not similar to the use of scissors. Depending on the presence of an alpha channel in your image, erasing some part replaces it with the background color (which may happen to be white), or with transparency (which is made visible with a checkerboard pattern). By the way, if you are accustomed to undo a lot of things, learn to use Ctrl+Z, which is must more handy than an entry in a menu, or the undo history dialog. -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, I do this all the time, I just make my selection with rectangle select and then use Image-Crop to selection. And I believe I tried that at one point in my 10,000 monkeys experimentation, and was left with a blank view, hello undo... That means that you selected a very small area, I guess. OTOH It's possible that you are actually encountering a bug. However, given the amount of people, with no special knowledge of GIMP, who manage to perform this task regularly with little trouble, I believe that the problem is with your understanding and/or attitude. my Bessler 23c/w/dichro head on up the rack and adjusting the easel to get exactly what I want, so automatically I wasn't even concious of doing it. That is why I find it so difficult to make gimp do it. AFAIK the Crop tool works virtually identical to the kind of apparatus you were using. Perhaps you enabled some option that makes it behave in some way other than you expect (the 'current layer only' option (I think -- I don't run GIMP in English) might qualify) This also leads me to doubt whether you have done a reasonable amount of research on this problem, especially as the first hit for Google search GIMP crop image to selection includes instructions for cropping using the Crop tool. I didn't. Why should google have better instructions on running the gimp than its own help has? Because as olivier says, you do not know what questions to ask. GIMP's help is perfectly adequate, but clearly you were not able to help yourself using it. Otherwise you would have found and used this: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-crop.html In case it wasn't clear to you.. 'Erasing part of the image' does not in any way equate to 'reducing the area of the image'. David Ok, what does the autocrop and zealous crop function actually do then? They do not obviously do this. The erase functions should be labeled as erase, not crop, or some $5 equ prefixed *crop. To this old darkroom techy, 'crop' means The erase functions are named erase. The crop functions are named crop. Autocrop crops the image automatically by detecting blank space surrounding the image content. Zealous crop does the same sort of thing, except for each individual object in the image (one of the effects of this is that the spaces between images are reduced. This is often handy for webpage authors.) 'Image-Crop to selection' crops all layers (and the image canvas) to the selected area. 'Layer-Crop to selection' crops just the active layer to the selected area. Crop tool reduces the area of the image (or just the active layer, depending on what option is selected) to the size you choose. The eraser (and Edit-Cut, Edit-Clear etc) removes content -- it doesn't change the size of the 'paper', just like the real world. So please don't call an 'erase' function a 'crop', its scattered all through the menus miss-labeled as a crop. It is not. It just adds fuel to the fire of frustration. In what way does the above not match the meaning of crop? David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] help with GIMP help
Friends, The problem: the Window GIMP installer does not seem to install GIMP help, and the windows (XP, SP2) GIMP help installer that can be installed easily on a local machine is not the current version. [NB: I've downloaded and successfully unpacked the latest version of the documentation, but have not managed as yet to successfully install it]. The proposed solution: use mirroring software to download the GIMP help documentation from on-line to local machine. So the help: has anyone tried what I propose, and therefore might be able to comment on the likelihood of success, or for hurdles to overcome, or is there an easier way? ns ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] help updating old script please
Dason wrote: I found the following script: ;; tile2anim.scm -*-scheme-*- [snip] (let* ( (theWidth) (theHeight) (theCols) (theRows) (theCol) (theRow) (theImage) (theLayer) (framePos) (tmpLayer) ) The main problem I see is you are using variables in the binding portion of the let* block but did not provide an initial value for those variables. See my notes about updating Script-Fu scripts at: http://www.ve3syb.ca/wiki/doku.php?do=showid=software%3Asf%3Aupdating-scripts BTW, it is usually better to include a URL to the original script instead of including it in an e-mail when posting to a mailing list. Not too big a deal this time as the script wasn't that long. Okay. I'll remember that next time. Thanks for the help! Turns out Gimp.org had what I needed too! I just didn't check the changes far enough down! Now for me to add more functionality... *is lost* -- Dason ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with script
Sorry, i got another question. I want to find the width of each character by essentially cropping the cell. But this bit of code in the script saulgoode gave me: (gimp-rect-select image x y width height ...) (set! bounds (gimp-selection-bounds image)) just seems to get the width and height of the selection, which is obviously known since it's used to set the selection in the first place! So is there a function to crop the selection or will i have to copy it to a new layer? -- none ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
