Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 06:05:14PM -0500, Scott wrote: ..on Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:27:36PM -0500, Scott wrote: Actually the Intel version are faster IF your application is not running in emulation mode. That being said, there are not a lot of applications that are nativly supporting the Intel chip. Which is the primary reason I want to compile GIMP. I will say this IMac is faster then my P4 3ghz Suse Linux box at work when I am using applications that are native. 4x faster is unrealistic, I would say maybe 1.5 - 2x's faster then the G5. i guess i'm getting off topic here, but out of interest which (native) applications do you have on both SuSE and the IntelMac to compare their respective performance? very few of us have played with the IntelMac so i'm sure there'd be a few interested to know which applications are faster on which platform. At present GIMP 2.3.5, as anything newer will not compile due to rpath. OpenOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Sadly the GIMP 2.2.10 package, which I think is PPC (gimp.org) performs better then my GIMP on my Suse box. And that is using Rosetta, or whatever the hell they call it. There are various other small OSS installed, but mostly in support of the above applications. On most things my compile times are shorter, however on the Mac I do make -j3 and my Linux box a -j2. Considering that you're not comparing it on the same hardware, this isn't at all valid. Linux is quite a bit faster given the same hardware than OS X. That's the original point: if you're running OS X, you're not really caring about raw speed. -Yosh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 03:42:56PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 11.02.2006 um 15:14 schrieb Scott: I am sure I will eventually fix GIMP or come up with a work around, at which point I will forward the info on for your consumption. so, may be we should kick this issue to GIMP-dev and ask for help. May be even a bug should filed for this? Hopefully somebody can bring some light into this. As I told you on IRC, engage the libtool people about it. Unless you feel like donating a decent OS X 10.4 machine to a developer, this isn't going to be fixed by just sitting around and whining for it to happen. You want it fixed, and you're the one who has access to the platform for testing and investigation, so you have to do some legwork. -Yosh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
..on Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:48:34AM -0800, Manish Singh wrote: At present GIMP 2.3.5, as anything newer will not compile due to rpath. OpenOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Sadly the GIMP 2.2.10 package, which I think is PPC (gimp.org) performs better then my GIMP on my Suse box. And that is using Rosetta, or whatever the hell they call it. There are various other small OSS installed, but mostly in support of the above applications. On most things my compile times are shorter, however on the Mac I do make -j3 and my Linux box a -j2. Considering that you're not comparing it on the same hardware, this isn't at all valid. Linux is quite a bit faster given the same hardware than OS X. That's the original point: if you're running OS X, you're not really caring about raw speed. before i took OSX off the G5 altogether i performed a few amatuer benchmarks of my own, between Ubuntu and OSX using 'time' and simply logging system load. the one area i could determine in which OSX clearly has Ubuntu PPC nailed was that of ripping and encoding DVD's. what would take 70m on Ubuntu would take around 45 mins in OSX with both the same codec and container targets. this was regardless of the fact that Ubuntu had DMA enabled for both the HDD and the DVD. strangely encoding from DV to a theora target was around 20% faster in Ubuntu. 3D performance with either the stock FOSS ati driver, or ATI's FGLRX was much much better in Ubuntu i used Quake3 Arena and rendering the same scene using Blender/Yafray on both OS's. this may be due to the fact OSX hits the GPU for fast blitting (the OSX interface can be thought of as an OpenGL scene). mixing 8 identical tracks down to one stereo track in audacity was around a third faster in Ubuntu, as was network performance generally (that i found very strange and never did get to the bottom of). can't wait to see how Linux looks on a Core Duo.. julian -- __ _ ___ ___| |___ __| |_ _ __ __ _ _ _| |__ ___ (_-/ -_) / -_) _| _| '_ \/ _` | '_| / /(_- /__/\___|_\___\__|\__| .__/\__,_|_| |_\_\/__/ |_http://selectparks.net/~julian ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 06:05:14PM -0500, Scott wrote: ..on Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:27:36PM -0500, Scott wrote: Actually the Intel version are faster IF your application is not running in emulation mode. That being said, there are not a lot of applications that are nativly supporting the Intel chip. Which is the primary reason I want to compile GIMP. I will say this IMac is faster then my P4 3ghz Suse Linux box at work when I am using applications that are native. 4x faster is unrealistic, I would say maybe 1.5 - 2x's faster then the G5. i guess i'm getting off topic here, but out of interest which (native) applications do you have on both SuSE and the IntelMac to compare their respective performance? very few of us have played with the IntelMac so i'm sure there'd be a few interested to know which applications are faster on which platform. At present GIMP 2.3.5, as anything newer will not compile due to rpath. OpenOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Sadly the GIMP 2.2.10 package, which I think is PPC (gimp.org) performs better then my GIMP on my Suse box. And that is using Rosetta, or whatever the hell they call it. There are various other small OSS installed, but mostly in support of the above applications. On most things my compile times are shorter, however on the Mac I do make -j3 and my Linux box a -j2. Considering that you're not comparing it on the same hardware, this isn't at all valid. Linux is quite a bit faster given the same hardware than OS X. That's the original point: if you're running OS X, you're not really caring about raw speed. Well, I am sure this is more of a religious argument then anything else. Perhaps one day, if I am bored, I will dual boot this Mac with some form of Linux and do some bench marks. Until then, it is not worth discussing any further as I am sure the Mac people would tend to argue. Like I said it is about the GUI for me, as the Linux GUI is far from the sophistication and supportabilty then OS X. I do like Linux, and use it daily.. But, I am not sure I can agree that OS X is as slow as the Linux fans would believe it to be... Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
..on Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 09:14:39AM -0500, Scott wrote: The MacBook Pro will out perform in power save mode! hmm, i wouldn't believe everything Steve tells you.. you know what he's like ;) let's just hope Apple doesn't deliberately throttle OSX quite as much this time to boost hardware sales. memory management in OSX Tiger seems really poor. this seems to explain some of it.. http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436p=2 julian -- __ _ ___ ___| |___ __| |_ _ __ __ _ _ _| |__ ___ (_-/ -_) / -_) _| _| '_ \/ _` | '_| / /(_- /__/\___|_\___\__|\__| .__/\__,_|_| |_\_\/__/ |_http://selectparks.net/~julian ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Am 11.02.2006 um 15:14 schrieb Scott: Am 11.02.2006 um 05:43 schrieb Scott: recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./ configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . Thats the one I got on PPC since 2.3.6! Folks at IRC told me that this would be an issue outside of GIMP, so I gave up for a while :( My research indicates this is an issue with GIMP and not something outside of it. I came across another program with this issue that the programmer fixed after the users created enough noise. I unfortunately forgot the url, but one of the users went round and round with the developer because originally he was not going to fix it. He used the it is an issue outside also, for which the users started calling him arrogant for having that mentality. I am sure I will eventually fix GIMP or come up with a work around, at which point I will forward the info on for your consumption. so, may be we should kick this issue to GIMP-dev and ask for help. May be even a bug should filed for this? Hopefully somebody can bring some light into this. !lexA Scott --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Scott wrote: sounds like outperfoming my iBook 800 will be an easy job for the MacBook Pro :) The MacBook Pro will out perform in power save mode! So it is another device that just switches on the power save LED and continues to consume the same amount of power? :) Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto) this is what the error message complained about. the error message did not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not have messed up -rpath. i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration options was confusing. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Am 11.02.2006 um 19:35 schrieb Carol Spears: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote: I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto) this is what the error message complained about. the error message did not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not have messed up -rpath. i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration options was confusing. carol indeed the -rpath problem is completely not related to the SSE issue. I'm on PPC ( no SSE at all) and have the -rpath issue since GIMP 2.3.6 in hope for help lexA ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 11.02.2006 um 00:41 schrieb Carol Spears: could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly? after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice. do people run apple because it is really fast? i am sorry if i got this wrong. i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking. the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be able to function on. if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is not an issue, i would probably have to agree. =:) actually, i have been corrected on a few things. a hacker voluntarily read apple advertising to me. i guess that ppc was 4times faster than intel and now this new thing is 4times faster than ppc. i have no idea how to do the maths with this new information. how long before this fine boxen are overtaking the speed of light itself? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto) this is what the error message complained about. the error message did not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not have messed up -rpath. i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration options was confusing. Actually I have tried it three ways, --disable-mmx, disable-sse, and disable-mmx --disable-sse. I get no errors, other than rpath, by only disabling the mmx verses the sse. The rpath error is because ld on Mac OSX apparently does not support the -rpath option. Thanks! Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 11.02.2006 um 00:41 schrieb Carol Spears: could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly? after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice. do people run apple because it is really fast? i am sorry if i got this wrong. i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking. the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be able to function on. if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is not an issue, i would probably have to agree. =:) actually, i have been corrected on a few things. a hacker voluntarily read apple advertising to me. i guess that ppc was 4times faster than intel and now this new thing is 4times faster than ppc. i have no idea how to do the maths with this new information. how long before this fine boxen are overtaking the speed of light itself? Actually the Intel version are faster IF your application is not running in emulation mode. That being said, there are not a lot of applications that are nativly supporting the Intel chip. Which is the primary reason I want to compile GIMP. I will say this IMac is faster then my P4 3ghz Suse Linux box at work when I am using applications that are native. 4x faster is unrealistic, I would say maybe 1.5 - 2x's faster then the G5. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Am 11.02.2006 um 05:43 schrieb Scott: recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . Thats the one I got on PPC since 2.3.6! Folks at IRC told me that this would be an issue outside of GIMP, so I gave up for a while :( You are right.. I downloaded 2.3.5 and it compiles and installs just fine using the --disable-mmx option. So there was a major change in 2.3.6 that broke GIMP for OS X I guess.. Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
I am attempting to build GIMP 2.3.7 on an Intel IMac. The configure goes fine, however when I run make I get an error. The following is the tail end of the output: - if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app -I../../app -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Gimp-Composite\ -pthreads -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mmmx -msse -g -O2 -Wall -MT libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.Tpo -c -o libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o `test -f 'gimp-composite-sse.c' || echo './'`gimp-composite-sse.c; \ then mv -f .deps/libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.Tpo .deps/libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.Po; else rm -f .deps/libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.Tpo; exit 1; fi if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app -I../../app -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Gimp-Composite\ -pthreads -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mmmx -msse -g -O2 -Wall -MT libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.Tpo -c -o libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.o `test -f 'gimp-composite-sse2.c' || echo './'`gimp-composite-sse2.c; \ then mv -f .deps/libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.Tpo .deps/libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.Po; else rm -f .deps/libcompositesse2_a-gimp-composite-sse2.Tpo; exit 1; fi i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: unrecognized option '-pthreads' i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: unrecognized option '-pthreads' gimp-composite-mmx.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_mmx': gimp-composite-mmx.c:1016: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' gimp-composite-mmx.c: At top level: gimp-composite-mmx.c:836: warning: 'mmx_op_overlay' defined but not used make[3]: *** [libcompositemmx_a-gimp-composite-mmx.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? Thanks! Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Hi Scott, Am 10.02.2006 um 20:27 schrieb Scott: I am attempting to build GIMP 2.3.7 on an Intel IMac. The configure goes fine, however when I run make I get an error. The following is the tail end of the output: sorry, can't help with that, I'm still waiting for my new machine (MacBook). How did you try to compile this? I mean, are there fink or darwinports or something like that involved or how did you satisfy all the dependencies of GIMP? lexA --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
So far I have compiled them all from source.. Since I am new to Mac's I am not sure how to package them yet for easy install.. Otherwise I would make what I have done thus far available on my site. Once I figure out this GIMP issue then I will probably address packaging them up. So far everything else has had no issues using the standard compile process. Fink and folks do not have Intel versions available yet, and I did not want to run in non-native mode. Scott Hi Scott, Am 10.02.2006 um 20:27 schrieb Scott: I am attempting to build GIMP 2.3.7 on an Intel IMac. The configure goes fine, however when I run make I get an error. The following is the tail end of the output: sorry, can't help with that, I'm still waiting for my new machine (MacBook). How did you try to compile this? I mean, are there fink or darwinports or something like that involved or how did you satisfy all the dependencies of GIMP? lexA --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. if you are using apple products, you probably are not interested in speed so probably building without that stuff will not seem to hurt performance. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:49:09PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 10.02.2006 um 23:32 schrieb Carol Spears: if you are using apple products, you probably are not interested in speed so probably building without that stuff will not seem to hurt performance. couldn't you've been simply nice and friendly? Since he tries to build GIMP for the new Intel Macs he's proven to care about performance anyway :) could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly? after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice. do people run apple because it is really fast? i am sorry if i got this wrong. i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking. the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be able to function on. if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is not an issue, i would probably have to agree. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . if you are using apple products, you probably are not interested in speed so probably building without that stuff will not seem to hurt performance. I use to think that, I am an avid Linux and Solaris user. But, OS X is much further along in regards of ease of use and application support for my family members. This allows me to insure there will never be any microsoft products in my house. :-) But this Imac is the 2.0 DC w/1gb of RAM. Under normal usage it runs nicely, it does seem to stumble sooner under high load then my Sun Ultra 20 (opteron) does. But, generally speaking it is a good performer.. Thanks for all your help.. Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
Am 11.02.2006 um 05:43 schrieb Scott: recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . Thats the one I got on PPC since 2.3.6! Folks at IRC told me that this would be an issue outside of GIMP, so I gave up for a while :( But this Imac is the 2.0 DC w/1gb of RAM. Under normal usage it runs nicely, it does seem to stumble sooner under high load then my Sun Ultra 20 (opteron) does. But, generally speaking it is a good performer.. sounds like outperfoming my iBook 800 will be an easy job for the MacBook Pro :) Thanks for all your help.. Scott Greetings, lexA ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
