Re: [Gimp-user] R: Gimp (certification)

2011-07-06 Thread Baughman, Richard P USA CIV (US)
Good morning and thanks for all the input.

Your information has been a great help and it is my understanding that GIMP 
does not utilize 
System ports to operate.
Meaning that Port 41 (Graphics) for example is not used by GIMP. All services 
are provided by OS.
GIMP works at Layer 7 at the front end of OS.

The certification is Enterprise (Global) mandate for any new software requests.
to ensure it is safe for use through the Enterprise after going through several 
Vulnerability tests.  
The most difficult part is obtaining the information not necessarily the 
certification itself.

Thanks again



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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:20 PM
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Subject: [Gimp-user] R: Gimp (certification)

I think the poster was not asking about facts (is GIMP safe?), but about 
certifications (is GIMP certified as safe?).

I don't think it is possible to reassure him about this. In fact, the GPL has a 
NO WARRANTY clause.

If he/his customer wants something certified, I think he has to pay for the 
certification - which does not imply that the software is actually safe (there 
is no a priori way to tell this), but only that it has passed some tests.

By the way...

      It is an application that receives
 services from the OS ? 

I don't know of any program that does not receive services from the OS.
At the bare minimum, memory management (virtual memory) and process management 
(process startup and scheduling, execution) are up to the OS in all cases. I 
don't know how this question should be interpreted.

--Stefano


 On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:39:39 am Baughman, Richard P USA CIV (US) 
 wrote:
  Good morning,
  
  Have a customer requesting GIMP 2.6.x for project
 starting within 2 weeks.
  
  IT department requires the software to be tested and
 approved prior to any
  new software being installed within our Enterprise.
  
  Basically I understand GIMP to operate at the
 desktop...
      It is an application that receives
 services from the OS
  
  ? what system ports (if any) are utilized by GIMP ? does the program 
  traverse internet (80, 8080, 443
 etc )
  ? are there any known vulnerabilities
  
  Appreciate your time and assistance.
  
  Thanks
  Rick
  
  
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 Gimp is an Open Source program that runs on MSWin, OS X and
 
 Linux. It is similar in purpose to Photoshop but does not produce CMYK 
 output, just RGB.
 
 To install Gimp you download it over the Internet. Please visit 
 http://www.gimp.org for details.
 
 
 The user can click on the help facility and view the Gimp Manual in an 
 html viewer. Other than that there is no operational connection to the 
 internet. No ports are opened. It is a stand-alone local program.
 
 
 
  Gimp has been in use for many years on many systems in many shops. It 
 is not scary.
 
 I know of no vulnarabilities. But I operate on Linux where
 
 vulnerabilities are seldom an issue. 


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[Gimp-user] R: Gimp (certification)

2011-07-05 Thread Stefano Rovetta
I think the poster was not asking about facts (is GIMP safe?),
but about certifications (is GIMP certified as safe?).

I don't think it is possible to reassure him about this. In fact,
the GPL has a NO WARRANTY clause.

If he/his customer wants something certified, I think he has to pay
for the certification - which does not imply that the software
is actually safe (there is no a priori way to tell this), but only
that it has passed some tests.

By the way...

      It is an application that receives
 services from the OS ? 

I don't know of any program that does not receive services from the OS.
At the bare minimum, memory management (virtual memory) and process
management (process startup and scheduling, execution) are up to the OS
in all cases. I don't know how this question should be interpreted.

--Stefano


 On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:39:39 am Baughman, Richard P 
 USA CIV (US) wrote:
  Good morning,
  
  Have a customer requesting GIMP 2.6.x for project 
 starting within 2 weeks.
  
  IT department requires the software to be tested and 
 approved prior to any
  new software being installed within our Enterprise.
  
  Basically I understand GIMP to operate at the
 desktop...
      It is an application that receives
 services from the OS
  
  ? what system ports (if any) are utilized by GIMP
  ? does the program traverse internet (80, 8080, 443
 etc )
  ? are there any known vulnerabilities
  
  Appreciate your time and assistance.
  
  Thanks
  Rick
  
  
  ___
  Gimp-user mailing list
  Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
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 Gimp is an Open Source program that runs on MSWin, OS X and
 
 Linux. It is similar in purpose to Photoshop but does not 
 produce CMYK output, just RGB.
 
 To install Gimp you download it over the Internet. Please 
 visit http://www.gimp.org for details. 
 
 
 The user can click on the help facility and view the Gimp 
 Manual in an html viewer. Other than that there is no 
 operational connection to the internet. No ports are 
 opened. It is a stand-alone local program. 
 
 
 
  Gimp has been in use for many years on many systems in 
 many shops. It is not scary. 
 
 I know of no vulnarabilities. But I operate on Linux where
 
 vulnerabilities are seldom an issue. 


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Re: [Gimp-user] R: Gimp (certification)

2011-07-05 Thread kevin gilbert
Given the the OP's email address is in the .mil domain safe could mean 
anything from plays nicely with other apps to wont endanger national 
security. Perhaps a little clarification would be in order.

On Wed July 6 2011 07:20:13 Stefano Rovetta opined:
 I think the poster was not asking about facts (is GIMP safe?),
 but about certifications (is GIMP certified as safe?).
 
 I don't think it is possible to reassure him about this. In fact,
 the GPL has a NO WARRANTY clause.
 
 If he/his customer wants something certified, I think he has to pay
 for the certification - which does not imply that the software
 is actually safe (there is no a priori way to tell this), but only
 that it has passed some tests.
 
 By the way...
 
   It is an application that receives
  
  services from the OS ?
 
 I don't know of any program that does not receive services from the OS.
 At the bare minimum, memory management (virtual memory) and process
 management (process startup and scheduling, execution) are up to the OS
 in all cases. I don't know how this question should be interpreted.
 
 --Stefano
 
  On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:39:39 am Baughman, Richard P
  
  USA CIV (US) wrote:
   Good morning,
   
   Have a customer requesting GIMP 2.6.x for project
  
  starting within 2 weeks.
  
   IT department requires the software to be tested and
  
  approved prior to any
  
   new software being installed within our Enterprise.
   
   Basically I understand GIMP to operate at the
  
  desktop...
  
   It is an application that receives
  
  services from the OS
  
   ? what system ports (if any) are utilized by GIMP
   ? does the program traverse internet (80, 8080, 443
  
  etc )
  
   ? are there any known vulnerabilities
   
   Appreciate your time and assistance.
   
   Thanks
   Rick
   
   
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  Gimp is an Open Source program that runs on MSWin, OS X and
  
  Linux. It is similar in purpose to Photoshop but does not
  produce CMYK output, just RGB.
  
  To install Gimp you download it over the Internet. Please
  visit http://www.gimp.org for details.
  
  
  The user can click on the help facility and view the Gimp
  Manual in an html viewer. Other than that there is no
  operational connection to the internet. No ports are
  opened. It is a stand-alone local program.
  
   Gimp has been in use for many years on many systems in
  
  many shops. It is not scary.
  
  I know of no vulnarabilities. But I operate on Linux where
  
  vulnerabilities are seldom an issue.
 
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[Gimp-user] R: GIMP

2010-07-19 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche

 I am on Windows XP Pro SP3 and I know of 2 ways to start
 GIMP: either doubleclick the GIMP-icon on the desktop or the
 gimp-2.6.exe file.

there is a third way

Click on Start, how you will do to make the programs list pop out, close at the 
bottom, at left you will see run

there type the path for gimp exe (to avoid typo you can RIGHT click on 
gimp.exe, chose propriety and copy the path

that should look as C:\Program Files\GIMP 2.6\bin\gimp.2.6 exe 
then click ok or press enter


 How to set beforehand the GIMP_DEBUG
 environment variable is way beyond my knowledge.

also mine..anyway maybe start gimp from Run adding verbose will help
something as 
C:\Program Files\GIMP 2.6\bin\gimp.2.6 exe -verbose
(but maybe you HD is not called C)
 
 But nevertheless, I meanwhile found out that I have (a lot
 of) personal GIMP-files, and where they are: 
 http://fotoalbum.seniorennet.be/incl/getimage2.php?imageid=1607079albumid=18832typeid=4

 This fortunate discovery, I hope, will help me a lot to
 better understand GIMP.

Sure..there you may see a lot of empty folders as script plugin brush,etc
There you are supposed to add your extra, as third party plugins,scripts,brush
In case of upgrade they will preserved (but instead,if placed in the 
programfiles folders,will be all deleted by upgrades)
 Below is a line actually copied from

 my own gimprc-file:
 
  (help-locales en)
 
 Perhaps it would have been orthodox to change this en to
 nl. But nevertheless my non-standard trick did the job?
 The HELP-buttons and the F1-key do show me the help I ask.
 From my locally installed html-base:
 
 C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help\en 
 
 http://fotoalbum.seniorennet.be/incl/getimage2.php?imageid=1607415albumid=18832typeid=4
 
 
 As far as I am concerned this case seems closed. Thanks for
 the help.



  
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