[Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-24 Thread olivier ripoll
Nick Wilson wrote:
* and then olivier ripoll declared
Right, I actually got on really well with using a layer mask! - However,
now i am down to the very fine details im not sure i have the right
brush. You mentioned 'feathered' but i dont see that in the tool
options? Im using a 3px fuzzy circle, is that the same thing? my lines
are a little jagged ;(
The fuzzy circle is fine, it is what I meant by 'feather'. With it, your 
image should not look jagged then. I managed to get good results with 
the circle fuzzy 7 and 9. 3 might be too small indeed. You must paint in 
black in the mask not only what you want to delete, but also the pixels 
at the border of what you want to keep.

Hooray! This is a much better effort I think ;-)
http://www.stylesheet.org/3.jpg
Great work. No jagged pixels at all.
You think that's okay Oliver or does it need some work? I think it looks
great but like i said, im no graphic artist 

Thanks ever so much for all the help, very kind of you to take the time
dude..
I am no artist either, but you can still try to see what would happen to 
the colours/contrast if you play with the levels tool 
(Layer-Colors-Levels). There are other filters there that you might 
try just to see if you can improve the image colours: try every one of 
the Layer-Colors-Auto menu and see if one can give a good result. 
Nothing guaranteed ;)

Best regards,
Olivier.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-23 Thread Nick Wilson

* and then olivier ripoll declared
 I think the following tutorial corresponds more or less to what you want 
 to achieve.
 http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/ReplaceForeground/
 
 The problem of loosing pixels you had with you dog and with your sister 
 would be easily avoided if:
 
 1- You always work on a copy (thus you can get the lost data back).

A... ok!

 2- You use either the layer mask or the quickmask, as I explained 
 yesterday. The eraser is definitely not the good tool for what you want.

Right, do you think that photo is now rubbish? do i need to start over
from the beggining?

 PS: Your sister looks great! (forgive me, I am French ;) )

hehe, that's why she's the model, i want this site to make $$$s hehe
;-)


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[Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-23 Thread olivier ripoll
Nick Wilson wrote:
* and then olivier ripoll declared
I think the following tutorial corresponds more or less to what you want 
to achieve.
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/ReplaceForeground/

The problem of loosing pixels you had with you dog and with your sister 
would be easily avoided if:

1- You always work on a copy (thus you can get the lost data back).

A... ok!
A way can be to duplicate the original layer and to work on the copied 
layer. Thus, by playing with the layer visibility, you can compare the 
original and the result... and copy back deleted pixels.

2- You use either the layer mask or the quickmask, as I explained 
yesterday. The eraser is definitely not the good tool for what you want.

Right, do you think that photo is now rubbish? do i need to start over
from the beggining?
No, but you will not obtain a final good result with only the eraser or 
the magic wand selection tool. At some point you need a tool where you 
can select and deselect easily, on a pixel-per-pixel level, and with a 
border that will be feathered (smooth). The quickmask, with the paint 
brush tool and a smooth small round brush (1, 3 or 5 pixels diameter) is 
the perfect tool.
Another tutorial of quickmask can be found here:
http://www.cubicdesign.com/gimp/1_6/

I do not know if you plan to add a background behind you dog and sister 
in the image file, or if you want to use the background of your website, 
but in the second case, you will have to use RGB PNG and the trick given 
here:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/
http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/
to have it displayed correctly in IE Win32.

Sincerely,
Olivier.

PS: Your sister looks great! (forgive me, I am French ;) )
 hehe, that's why she's the model, i want this site to make $$$s hehe
 ;-)
My credit card number is 1234 5678 9012 3456 ;)
You can even improve the photo with this trick:
http://www.cubicdesign.com/gimp/2_5/
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-23 Thread Nick Wilson

* and then olivier ripoll declared
 Right, do you think that photo is now rubbish? do i need to start over
 from the beggining?
 
 No, but you will not obtain a final good result with only the eraser or 
 the magic wand selection tool. At some point you need a tool where you 
 can select and deselect easily, on a pixel-per-pixel level, and with a 
 border that will be feathered (smooth). The quickmask, with the paint 
 brush tool and a smooth small round brush (1, 3 or 5 pixels diameter) is 
 the perfect tool.

Right, I actually got on really well with using a layer mask! - However,
now i am down to the very fine details im not sure i have the right
brush. You mentioned 'feathered' but i dont see that in the tool
options? Im using a 3px fuzzy circle, is that the same thing? my lines
are a little jagged ;(

I didnt miss all your other points, thanks! Im just concenttrating on
this one...

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[Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-23 Thread olivier ripoll
Nick Wilson wrote:
* and then olivier ripoll declared
Right, do you think that photo is now rubbish? do i need to start over

from the beggining?
No, but you will not obtain a final good result with only the eraser or 
the magic wand selection tool. At some point you need a tool where you 
can select and deselect easily, on a pixel-per-pixel level, and with a 
border that will be feathered (smooth). The quickmask, with the paint 
brush tool and a smooth small round brush (1, 3 or 5 pixels diameter) is 
the perfect tool.

Right, I actually got on really well with using a layer mask! - However,
now i am down to the very fine details im not sure i have the right
brush. You mentioned 'feathered' but i dont see that in the tool
options? Im using a 3px fuzzy circle, is that the same thing? my lines
are a little jagged ;(
The fuzzy circle is fine, it is what I meant by 'feather'. With it, your 
image should not look jagged then. I managed to get good results with 
the circle fuzzy 7 and 9. 3 might be too small indeed. You must paint in 
black in the mask not only what you want to delete, but also the pixels 
at the border of what you want to keep.

Also, you'd better use a zoom level of at least 2 to do this with more 
control.

Regards,
Olivier.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Advice on Best Tool for Job

2004-09-23 Thread Nick Wilson

* and then olivier ripoll declared
 Right, I actually got on really well with using a layer mask! - However,
 now i am down to the very fine details im not sure i have the right
 brush. You mentioned 'feathered' but i dont see that in the tool
 options? Im using a 3px fuzzy circle, is that the same thing? my lines
 are a little jagged ;(
 
 The fuzzy circle is fine, it is what I meant by 'feather'. With it, your 
 image should not look jagged then. I managed to get good results with 
 the circle fuzzy 7 and 9. 3 might be too small indeed. You must paint in 
 black in the mask not only what you want to delete, but also the pixels 
 at the border of what you want to keep.

Hooray! This is a much better effort I think ;-)
http://www.stylesheet.org/3.jpg

You think that's okay Oliver or does it need some work? I think it looks
great but like i said, im no graphic artist 

Thanks ever so much for all the help, very kind of you to take the time
dude..
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