[Gimp-user] Select the layer I click on

2009-11-25 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hello,

I have a GIMP project with more than 200 layers and since there are no
layer groups (I can't remember the GIMP terminology for it) it's
quite cumbersome to find the layer I'm looking for in the layer box.
Is there any tool in GIMP for selecting (making active) the layer that
I'm clicking?

Thanks,
Deniz Dogan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Select the layer I click on

2009-11-25 Thread Martijn Weisbeek
Deniz,

Your question sounds very much like a question that was asked recently
on this mailing list.
See https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2009-November/016022.html

BTW, layer groups is something the GIMP developers are working on.
Expect this in GIMP 2.8 (and in the current GIMP 2.7 development branch).
See www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-09-06/layer-groups-gimp-2-8-preview-update.html

Kind regards,

Martijn
http://gimp.startpagina.nl
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Re: [Gimp-user] Select the layer I click on

2009-11-25 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/11/25 Martijn Weisbeek weisb...@gmail.com:
 Deniz,

 Your question sounds very much like a question that was asked recently
 on this mailing list.
 See https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2009-November/016022.html

 BTW, layer groups is something the GIMP developers are working on.
 Expect this in GIMP 2.8 (and in the current GIMP 2.7 development branch).
 See 
 www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-09-06/layer-groups-gimp-2-8-preview-update.html

 Kind regards,

 Martijn
 http://gimp.startpagina.nl


Thank you!

Sorry for not searching before asking.

If anyone else finds this post looking for an answer to this question,
the answer is something like this:
The default behavior of the move tool is to move the layer you
click. You can change this by doing this:
Go to: Edit - Preferences - Tool options
Check Set layer or path as active under the Move Tool section.

It seems like there is no way to toggle this behavior by e.g. holding
key. You'd think that holding the shift key would toggle the behavior,
which the description in the toolbox implies. However, I can't get
this to work!

-- 
Deniz Dogan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Select the layer I click on

2009-11-25 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com (2009-11-25 at 1613.28 +0100):
 It seems like there is no way to toggle this behavior by e.g. holding
 key. You'd think that holding the shift key would toggle the behavior,
 which the description in the toolbox implies. However, I can't get
 this to work!

I gave it a look again (*) and when tool options say move you will
move the layer that is active in layers dialog when you drag, no
matter where you click. If it says pick you will activate topmost
opaque layer and then move it when you drag. Shift key changes the
button temporally. Try it, press and release it and see how the tool
options update... at least here it does... if not, you found a bug.

The preferences option just decides about keeping or not the
activation. You can see the temp activation in layers dialog while the
mouse button is hold. Leave preferences open to one side of the
monitor and see how things behave with an image with 2 transparent
layers with a small doodle in each, try pref on/off, shift pressed,
etc.

*: Three notes about why I forget all the details of this. First is
that I have the make active pref enabled to match old Gimps and
always forget about it. It can be weird for new people, but so is that
move's default includes pick (it is named move, not select/pick and
move... so before and now are not free of sins).

Second is that I never change these tool options from the default
settings, so I do not have to look at them ever; my fingers always
know. Nevermind in some cases the keys are not toggles, in move tool
shift is, but try selecting layer, selection and path modes and see
what control or alt do in each case... the only that seems sane to me
is to leave it in layers, so all three keys can do things and my
fingers can continue in automatic mode.

And third is that I stopped believing in texts, instead I see what
things do, so my hands learn that and my eyes completly ignore the
texts.

Small redesign: the tool options should be something like Move top
opaque layer under cursor for pick and Move active layer for
move. There must be better wording that current. As Joao mentioned,
the keep active or not pref could be a tool option, dependant on
Move top opaque layer under cursor and with a text like Make
active. Things could be moved but with the intent of leaving the
settings in sane state (some of us would had to relearn shift key, but
I think it could be settled forever). Example:

() Move active layer
() Pick top opaque then move   --, pick enables/gives access to
   [] Keep picked as active-` keep toggle (otherwise greyed)

GSR
 
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