Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] [Fwd: Gimp interface streamlining]

2003-09-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Willie Sippel wrote:
  Check my new mockup, I've changed this. It's available at
  http://www.zeitgeistmedia.net/gimp/gimpstreamline2.png .
 
 I rather like the way this is going.

Well, surely the screenshot looks nice. The question is if this is a
useable interface that is both intuitive to newbies as well as
productive for experts. The mockup brings up a couple of good points.
However none of them are really new. A lot of this is implemented in
the 1.3 series, some points are scheduled for implementation, some
were dropped.

I just want to point out that it doesn't make any sense to say yes or
no to the mockup. It just raises a couple of ideas that need to be
discussed (and eventually coded).


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Fwd: Gimp interface streamlining]

2003-09-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Willie Sippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Check my new mockup, I've changed this. It's available at
 http://www.zeitgeistmedia.net/gimp/gimpstreamline2.png .
 You're right on this one, I would suggest to split the toolbox, upper
 segment containing logical groups, e.g. paint tools, and on click, the
 lower segment contains the corresponding tools, like brush, pen,
 airbrush, ink and text. This would reduce mouse movement, as you
 suggested, while still making it easier to find the tool you need.

I like this idea. Perhaps if the GUI could better indicate the
relationship between the selected tool-group and the list of tools
below, people would actually have a chance to understand this concept
without the need to explain it to them.

What I dislike about your mockup is the fact that you overload widgets
with functionality using the three mouse-buttons. This hides important
functionality and is thus unacceptable for a user interface that is
supposed to be as intuitive as possible.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Fwd: Gimp interface streamlining]

2003-09-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Willie Sippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  2.) Remove buttons from the main menu and add the corresponding
 functions to a mode selector in the Tool Options:

While I see how this would save some screen estate and reduce clutter
in the toolbox, I think that it would be very cumbersome to have to
click in two different places to select a tool. I'd like to see
tool-groups, as you suggest them, to be integrated into the toolbox,
not split between toolbox and tool-options dialog.

  6.) Add 'Alpha' to the Color Picker;

See also http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121331.

 13.) Remove the pressure mapping options from the tool settings and add
 it to the 'Tool state' window, to remove unnecessary options for users
 without a tablet;

There are a few things you can do with the pressure options even if
you don't have a tablet. These are considered hacks however and I
agree that we should consider to move these settings elsewhere or at
least hide them when no special input devices are available.
 
 14.) Add a pressure curve to the tool settings, to edit the pressure and
 suppress values on the fly;

This has been suggested before, there should be a bug-report for it.

 15.) Remove the brush and pattern preview from the main toolbox, because
 it clutters the toolbox - it's redundant, anyway, because there is
 allready a preview in the tool settings window. It might be even better
 to also remove the pattern preview from the tool settings and show the
 selected pattern on the color preview of the main toolbox;

The brush, pattern and gradient previews in the toolbox are redundant
and are scheduled for removal already. It's just a matter of doing it.


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