Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-03 Thread John R. Culleton
On Thursday 02 November 2006 09:16, Stephan Hegel wrote: Tom Williams wrote: For the record folks, I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in /usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 03:41 +0100, Stephan Hegel wrote: It does not break the mechanism of configure make make install as everything could be embedded fully transparent within this procedure, even the installation of a wrapper. The user even wouldn't notice. This discussion is pretty

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-03 Thread Stephan Hegel
Sven Neumann wrote: Why don't you just pass --enable-binreloc to configure and simply call the resulting binary directly? It will then figure out where to find the libraries and data files relative to the location of the binary. Thanks for this hint. Meanwhile I've solved the problem as

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Stephan Hegel
Tom Williams wrote: For the record folks, I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in /usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any problems, errors, or wrapper scripts (unless gimp-2.3 is a wrapper

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Stephan Hegel
Saul Goode wrote: They don't necessarily *need* the wrapper (that is but one suggested solution to having multiple GIMPs installed concurrently) If you have another suggestion how to run multiple, library-wise incompatible instances of Gimp without using a wrappers, please let me know. Kind

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams
Stephan Hegel wrote: Tom Williams wrote: For the record folks, I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in /usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any problems, errors, or wrapper scripts

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Saul Goode
Stephen Hegel wrote: Saul Goode wrote: They don't necessarily *need* the wrapper (that is but one suggested solution to having multiple GIMPs installed concurrently) If you have another suggestion how to run multiple, library-wise incompatible instances of Gimp without using a wrappers,

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Stephan Hegel
Tom Williams wrote: Sure can. :) START- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Thanks, Tom. The point is the empty LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. IIUC, in this case the loader is not forced to search for libs in certain directories. Seems it just

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams
Toby Haynes wrote: Tom Williams wrote: ---START- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp /usr/bin/gimp: symbolic link to `gimp-2.2' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp-2.2 /usr/bin/gimp-2.2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0,

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams
Stephan Hegel wrote: Tom Williams wrote: Sure can. :) START- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Thanks, Tom. The point is the empty LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. IIUC, in this case the loader is not forced to search for libs in certain

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-01 Thread Stephan Hegel
Sven Neumann wrote: You are making a wrong assumption here about the target audience of a source release. Users are not the target audience. Users should grab a pre-compiled binary from their distributor or from someone who knows what he's doing and provides one for them. I consider myself

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-01 Thread Saul Goode
Stephan Hegel wrote: Who else shall fetch source code releases ? The package maintainers for the over 300 different Linux distributions. Not to mention maintainers for Solaris, BSD, and Windows. I'm sorry but why should they hate you ? They need the wrapper anyway as pointed out in the

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-01 Thread Tom Williams
For the record folks, I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in /usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any problems, errors, or wrapper scripts (unless gimp-2.3 is a wrapper script). I'm

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-31 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 04:48 +0100, Stephan Hegel wrote: You are right: you _should_ read them. But reality is that only a few people do this. And finally we end up with threads like this where a program even does not start out of the box 'cause it's grabbing a wrong library. As I

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-30 Thread Brendan
On Sunday 29 October 2006 14:18, Stephan Hegel wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Not if you use the wrapper script that is suggested by the release notes and has already been mentioned here. Yes, I've posted a little wrapper by myself - you haven't read the whole thread carefully, have you ?

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-30 Thread Stephan Hegel
Brendan wrote: I have to respectfully disagree here. When something is being released and it's not even production, then yes, you should read them. In reading them, you would discover the wrapper script. I know because this is how I discovered it, and I am not a Gimp devel, just a user.

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 12:09 -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: With both of these versions the program compiles clean and installs clean but the following error occurs at runtime: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3: undefined symbol: gimp_env_init Your

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 04:04 +0100, Stephan Hegel wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: You mean a GIMP 2.3 build with --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.3 still exhibits the same error on Slackware? Maybe this is something a Slackware user should investigate then. Even on my SuSE 10.0, this would cause

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-29 Thread Stephan Hegel
Sven Neumann wrote: Not if you use the wrapper script that is suggested by the release notes and has already been mentioned here. Yes, I've posted a little wrapper by myself - you haven't read the whole thread carefully, have you ? Honestly: who is reading release notes ? This assumption is

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
Stephan Hegel wrote: I fixed this by installing gimp-2.3 completely under /usr/local/Gimp-2.3 and calling it by a little wrapper named gimpdev: The release notes suggest to use /opt/gimp-2.3, BTW. HTH, Michael -- GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-28 Thread Stephan Hegel
Hi, Does this affect the functionality of gimp-2.3 ? In that case configure should not allow a --prefix=/usr/local/Gimp-2.3. And: it does not fix the problem what was mentioned on top of the thread. HTH ? No, it does not help at all. Regards, Stephan. Michael Schumacher wrote: Stephan

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
Stephan Hegel wrote: Does this affect the functionality of gimp-2.3 ? In that case configure should not allow a --prefix=/usr/local/Gimp-2.3. configure allows everything. Anyone who is building from source ought to know that the prefix he chooses should be one that does not cause harm to the

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-28 Thread Jozef Legeny
I used the 2.3.11 version without problems maybe you should try building the 2.3.12 version (current developement release) with prefix (i'm using /opt/gimp-2.3) also don't forget to create the script which lauches gimp -- #!/bin/sh PATH=/opt/gimp-2.3/bin:$PATH export PATH

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-28 Thread Stephan Hegel
Michael Schumacher wrote: You mean a GIMP 2.3 build with --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.3 still exhibits the same error on Slackware? Maybe this is something a Slackware user should investigate then. Even on my SuSE 10.0, this would cause the same problem as LD_LIBRARY_PATH does not point to

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-27 Thread tomdkat
-- Original message -- From: John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] With both of these versions the program compiles clean and installs clean but the following error occurs at runtime: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3:

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-10-27 Thread Stephan Hegel
Hi all, I've seen this once and IIRC it turned out that my gimp-2.3 tried to load libgimp / libgimpbase from version 2.2 which is still on the somewhere on my Linux box. I fixed this by installing gimp-2.3 completely under /usr/local/Gimp-2.3 and calling it by a little wrapper named gimpdev: