Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-25 Thread Peter Russell




(Sorry I just realised I sent this directly to you by accident here is a resend to the list.)
You should really do work in "xcf" which is Gimp's native image
format. (you can also save a full copy of your work in xcf and go for a
walk or something then reload and continue from where you left off).
When you have finished the image you can then save it in any image
format you want that is supported by the Gimp (and there are many).
Probably jpg is the most favoured, png is lossless and supports
transparency. Depending on your work you may want to use gif. There are
many other's to choose from.Regards Pete-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:03:49 -0400To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,this is probably going to sound like a really weird solution to a problem but it has worked for me over the years. i often wander off the beaten path though so that tendency may work for someone else too. if i have an image that isn't working in the computer, i make the best possible print i can of it. then i may go into that print with other (live) media and punch it up that way. then i scan the print into the computer and make a new image from the scan in a file format i like and with a resolution that is better than what i had. then i use the image program to adjust the image until it takes shape as something i want to keep. usually there is a good chunk of the original image which still remains so all has not been lost. 
i am simply not used to using the native format of the GIMP program. for awhile i used to use the native format for photoshop, which was psd. then i discovered that a whole bunch of other programs i had would not show a thumbnail of a psd. yet they would all show it of a tif. (this was while i was using windows as my OS) so i started using tif and was happy with using it. there is some relief in knowing that every single program you have on your computer will be able to show the image in the tif format. this is also true of the jpg, the png and the gif.
carolOn 10/24/07, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/07, carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same reason. the image came in as
 a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.however, i too would have preferred tackling it as a png file.my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was given in the problem that a tif was out.
In this case - the "problem JPEG" - re-saving as JPEG would onlyproduce more of the same artifacts that were causing grief to theengraver.As a designer I frequently deal with this scenario: "Hi, we need X
printed on Y and it needs to be Z feet tall.All I have is this(crappy) JPEG (or fax, doc, ppt, etc)". I try this:1. is it a corporation?is the logo on brandsoftheworld.com
?2. do they have vector artwork on their web page (hidden in a PDF, etc)?3. is it just a font?can "what the font" figure it out?4. can I salvage it in GIMP (or PS) or Inkscape?5. redo it :(
Regardless of the solution, the format chosen to save my work in is upto me - just because I was _given_ a JPEG, there's no reason for me to_save_ it as JPEG later.Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rantI guess all I was trying
to say is that you're not locked into saving as a JPEG just becausethat's all the client has to offer :)Chris___Gimp-user mailing list
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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread rcook
 i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
 reason. the image came in as
 a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
 would have preferred tackling
 it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was
 given
 in the problem that a tif was out.



I think as a rule of thumb, that you should always work in the native
format of your program, so if you are using the Gimp,

a. Save the image in the xcf format
b. Do all your work in the xcf format
c. When finished, save in appropriate format for publication


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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread Chris Mohler
On 10/24/07, carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
 reason. the image came in as
 a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
 would have preferred tackling
 it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was given
 in the problem that a tif was out.

In this case - the problem JPEG - re-saving as JPEG would only
produce more of the same artifacts that were causing grief to the
engraver.

As a designer I frequently deal with this scenario: Hi, we need X
printed on Y and it needs to be Z feet tall.  All I have is this
(crappy) JPEG (or fax, doc, ppt, etc). I try this:

1. is it a corporation?  is the logo on brandsoftheworld.com?
2. do they have vector artwork on their web page (hidden in a PDF, etc)?
3. is it just a font?  can what the font figure it out?
4. can I salvage it in GIMP (or PS) or Inkscape?
5. redo it :(

Regardless of the solution, the format chosen to save my work in is up
to me - just because I was _given_ a JPEG, there's no reason for me to
_save_ it as JPEG later.

Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rant  I guess all I was trying
to say is that you're not locked into saving as a JPEG just because
that's all the client has to offer :)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread carol irvin
this is probably going to sound like a really weird solution to a problem
but it has worked for me over the years.  i often wander off the beaten path
though so that tendency may work for someone else too.  if i have an image
that isn't working in the computer, i make the best possible print i can of
it.  then i may go into that print with other (live) media and punch it up
that way.  then i scan the print into the computer and make a new image from
the scan in a file format i like and with a resolution that is better than
what i had.  then i use the image program to adjust the image until it takes
shape as something i want to keep.  usually there is a good chunk of the
original image which still remains so all has not been lost.

i am simply not used to using the native format of the GIMP program.  for
awhile i used to use the native format for photoshop, which was psd.  then i
discovered that a whole bunch of other programs i had would not show a
thumbnail of a psd.  yet they would all show it of a tif.  (this was while i
was using windows as my OS)  so i started using tif and was happy with using
it.  there is some relief in knowing that every single program you have on
your computer will be able to show the image in the tif format.  this is
also true of the jpg, the png and the gif.

carol

On 10/24/07, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/24/07, carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
  reason. the image came in as
  a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
  would have preferred tackling
  it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was
 given
  in the problem that a tif was out.

 In this case - the problem JPEG - re-saving as JPEG would only
 produce more of the same artifacts that were causing grief to the
 engraver.

 As a designer I frequently deal with this scenario: Hi, we need X
 printed on Y and it needs to be Z feet tall.  All I have is this
 (crappy) JPEG (or fax, doc, ppt, etc). I try this:

 1. is it a corporation?  is the logo on brandsoftheworld.com?
 2. do they have vector artwork on their web page (hidden in a PDF, etc)?
 3. is it just a font?  can what the font figure it out?
 4. can I salvage it in GIMP (or PS) or Inkscape?
 5. redo it :(

 Regardless of the solution, the format chosen to save my work in is up
 to me - just because I was _given_ a JPEG, there's no reason for me to
 _save_ it as JPEG later.

 Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rant  I guess all I was trying
 to say is that you're not locked into saving as a JPEG just because
 that's all the client has to offer :)

 Chris
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