Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP 2.0.1 and Fedora Core 1

2004-06-13 Thread Tatar Kolos
  What are people's experiences re:  GIMP 2.x and FC1?  Is it the
  same nightmare of rebuilding gtk2?  Or is it better than rh 9?

   I tried it.
   There are 79 packages involed.
   If you are not an expert do not try it.
   If you are running RH9 or FC1 you can upgrade to FC2.
   If you want the simple easy answer just upgrade to fc2.  It comes with
 version 2.0 of gimp.
 John

Hi guys,

It's possible that i'm just a lucky person, but it was no nightmare
installing GIMP 2.0.1 on FC1.

It complained about aalib, lcms and libexif, which i needed to install,
but after that, i was able to upgrade with only rpm commands.

There were some dependency issues but nothing serious.

Kolos
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP 2.0.1 and Fedora Core 1

2004-06-13 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:34:36PM +0200, Tatar Kolos wrote:
   What are people's experiences re:  GIMP 2.x and FC1?  Is it the
   same nightmare of rebuilding gtk2?  Or is it better than rh 9?
 
I tried it.
There are 79 packages involed.
If you are not an expert do not try it.
If you are running RH9 or FC1 you can upgrade to FC2.
If you want the simple easy answer just upgrade to fc2.  It comes with
  version 2.0 of gimp.
 
i counted 5 packages to build gimp (from cvs), 4 required packages
(pango, pkgconfig, libart2, gtk2), 8 third party libraries in the
recommended list.  some addition suggestions are made from running
configure.

this equals 17 and this count needs more build tools than you would if
you were making it from a tarball.  79 - 17 = 62.  62 additional
packages are needed by pango, pkgconfig, libart2, gtk2 and fedora?

i know pango needs freetype2 and gtk needs atk and glib.

i think it is seriously time to check the reasons that fedora needs so
much on your computer to work.

i really watched these guys try not to add dependencies like this.

is there a way for fedora to show this list of dependencies.  i am in
the mood to count things 

 Hi guys,
 
 It's possible that i'm just a lucky person, but it was no nightmare
 installing GIMP 2.0.1 on FC1.
 
 It complained about aalib, lcms and libexif, which i needed to install,
 but after that, i was able to upgrade with only rpm commands.
 
 There were some dependency issues but nothing serious.
 
this application should be able to build without these libraries.  i
know that aalib is an option and the gimp should build fine without
this.

do you have a working pygimp?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP 2.0.1 and Fedora Core 1

2004-06-13 Thread Michael Schumacher
Barton Bosch wrote:
John Dietsch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Barton Bosch wrote:

Should I take it that installing the new GIMP on FC1 is not 
significantly easier than on rh 9 (shrike)?

  It is the same.

What are people's experiences re:  GIMP 2.x and FC1?  Is it the same 
nightmare of rebuilding gtk2?  Or is it better than rh 9?

  I tried it.There are 79 packages involed.If you are not an 
expert do not try it.
  If you are running RH9 or FC1 you can upgrade to FC2.
  If you want the simple easy answer just upgrade to fc2.  It comes 
with version 2.0 of gimp.

I have only done a bit of checking into the newer distros, but isn't FC2 
a 64 bit OS?  That would make it incompatible with my PIII 550, correct?
Don't start spreading FUD. From http://fedora.redhat.com
Fedora Core 2 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror 
sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core has 
expanded in this release to four binary ISO images and four source ISO 
images, and is available for both x86-64 and i386.
^^

On a related note, would that mean that when FC1 hits its EOL date (if 
it hasn't already) that there will be no more official updates or 
security fixes for redhat based x86 operating systems?
If there is an EOL for the Fedoras, it might be possible that no more 
updates for older versions will be available - I don't know, I neither 
did use nor do I plan to use Redhat or Fedora.

But your general statement about discontinuing support for redhat based 
x86 operating systems is wrong, as indicated by the release anouncement 
- it is even ambiguous, since the 64 bit version is for x86-64 :)

HTH,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP 2.0.1 and Fedora Core 1

2004-06-13 Thread Barton Bosch
Michael Schumacher wrote:
snip
I have only done a bit of checking into the newer distros, but isn't 
FC2 a 64 bit OS?  That would make it incompatible with my PIII 550, 
correct?

Don't start spreading FUD. From http://fedora.redhat.com
Sorry, no FUD intended.  The info I got:
CPU Requirements
This section lists the CPU specifications required by Fedora Core 2.
* AMD64 processors (both Athlon64 and Opteron)
* Intel processors with IntelĀ® Extended Memory 64 
Technology (IntelĀ® EM64T)

was from:  http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/
Not sure how the direct contradiction between the main FC2 page 
that you linked to and the release notes pages that a search for 
 fedora core system requirements search took me to happened, 
but it is reassuring that FC2 is available for x86-64 and i386.

How is FC2 running for folks (especially with regard to GIMP 
2.0.1)?  Chances are that if I install FC2 I will just put it in 
a spare partition and keep rh 9 as my production os.

I briefly considered branching out to s Debian Sarge partition 
that would allow an 'apt-get install gimp', but my situation is 
further complicated by being on a 56k line.  A kind windows user 
is downloading the isos of the new distro for me and I really 
don't see him installing Debian Jigdo to get the Sarge cd images


But your general statement about discontinuing support for redhat based 
x86 operating systems is wrong, as indicated by the release anouncement 
- it is even ambiguous, since the 64 bit version is for x86-64 :)
Yeah ok, thanks for sorting that out.
Barton
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