Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot find this in the API documents in developer.gimp.org. Could you please provide a URL ? I think I said it's in the GTK+ API reference, didn't I? http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/GtkUIManager.html Sven

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-05 Thread Karine Delvare
Then, it is true that the developers do not find this interface skinning desirable (it breaks documentation badly). The xml menus were first considered as a developer-only feature to simplify their work. Some people found it a new application, which is fine too. About breaking documentation,

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this is just a question of time/resources. The possibility to change the gimp menus is quite new (since version 2.2). It took much time to restructure the old code in order to have this possibility. IIRC, glade introduced the xml-interface

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is a whole lot of maintainance work, way more than you might think. I would hope optimistically that things could be adjusted to work well for all kinds of users and I think it would be better to make efforts to improve the defaults first (but

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Manish Singh
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:08:03AM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan D Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop Now, what I think would be really wonderful along these lines

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Michael Schumacher
Given that all the string changes in GimpShop occured in translatable strings, one wonders why patching the source was needed at all. The only other changes were to the menu files, which have been external since the change to GtkUIManager. Maybe for the script-fus... In fact, with a

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Sven Neumann wrote: Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:27:38 +0200 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jonathan D Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED], gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop Hi, Alan Horkan [EMAIL

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Manish Singh
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 01:03:13PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: Given that all the string changes in GimpShop occured in translatable strings, one wonders why patching the source was needed at all. The only other changes were to the menu files, which have been external since the

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You probably know the GNU Image manipulation program like the back of your hand but I think using the Procedure Browser/Plugin Database it to search for things is a massively useful and underrated feature. It encourages users to more easily find

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? Something gives me the impression that the GimpShop author hould have spent more time in #gimp... He didn't care to ask any of the developers before starting this. All he did was asking a question in a GIMP forum that deals with resources

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-04 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Monday 04 April 2005 15:29, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You probably know the GNU Image manipulation program like the back of your hand but I think using the Procedure Browser/Plugin Database it to search for things is a massively useful and

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread David Herman
On Saturday 02 April 2005 7:46 pm, Jonathan D Gibbons wrote: Now, what I think would be really wonderful along these lines would be a setup whereby The Gimp can be easily skinned to a rearranged UI like this. That way, we can have a Gimp skin that is familiar to Photoshop users, a Gimp skin

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
David Herman wrote: (snip) Not to disparrage the hard work that was put into this hack but... Let gimp be gimp and photoshop be photoshop. I completely agree. Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Frédéric
On Dimanche 03 Avril 2005 16:31, David Herman wrote: Imagine someone (a new user) has set their gimp menus up to resemble photoshop. Now for some reason they can't figure out how to scale their image. So they wisely come to this list (they are using gimp after all) and ask their question How

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
Frédéric wrote: (snip) If someone really want to use Gimp, he will find the menu. If gimpshop can help to migrate from Photoshop, this is OK. And if Gimp gives choice to arrange menus, this is great. Each one can choose the best solution for him. Based on the positive feedback on that blog, it

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Geoffrey
Jonathan D Gibbons wrote: Now, what I think would be really wonderful along these lines would be a setup whereby The Gimp can be easily skinned to a rearranged UI like this. Personally, I'd prefer that the developers work on enhancing the tool rather than making the tool look pretty (ier). I'd

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Alan Horkan
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan D Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop Now, what I think would be really wonderful along these lines would be a setup whereby The Gimp can be easily skinned to a rearranged

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Eric Pierce
Even with the Mnot bit? On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 10:57:11AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote: David Herman wrote: (snip) Not to disparrage the hard work that was put into this hack but... Let gimp be gimp and photoshop be photoshop. I completely agree. Peace... Tom

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Monday 04 April 2005 00:07, Eric Pierce wrote: Even with the Mnot bit? Obviously, in time, it should be: Gimp Is More than P. (just check CVS splash screen :-) ) On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 10:57:11AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote: David Herman wrote: (snip) Not to disparrage the hard