RE: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-26 Thread craniac
Sven Neumann wrote:
 I don't think GIMP does anything special before opening the 
 file selector. It might be the file selector itself that 
 causes the delay. Do you observe similar problems with other 
 file selectors (for example when exporting a path or loading 
 curves presets)?

You're probably right as other file selectors are the same.  It takes about
2 seconds before the selector opens.  Changing the tile cache size appears
not to affect this.  Not a big issue really, just something I had noticed.
This might even not be present in later versions.  As I said I only use GIMP
occasionally on this machine so I haven't bothered to upgrade from version
1.2.3.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

craniac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You're probably right as other file selectors are the same.  It takes about
 2 seconds before the selector opens.  Changing the tile cache size appears
 not to affect this.  Not a big issue really, just something I had noticed.
 This might even not be present in later versions.  As I said I only use GIMP
 occasionally on this machine so I haven't bothered to upgrade from version
 1.2.3.

I guess you are using some slow network shares then. If at all this
would have to be addressed at the GTK+ level but I don't think it
makes sense to worry about the GTK+-1.2 file selector. You should
perhaps check if the new file chooser widget in GTK+ HEAD shows the
same problem.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 TheGIMP -- being built on linux and the defaults set for the excellent 
 way that linux handles all the different little memory devises that 
 these computers have --  might need for you to consider your resources 
 while setting TheGIMP up. More than you are used to thinking about.
 
 A document has been carefully hidden on mmmaybe.gimp.org that should
 help you to figure out what your computer is doing.  This document also
 described accurately how to keep adobe photoshop from eating up outlook
 express ability, if this is an issue you have as well.  How nice for the
 gimp development team to provide such instructions for the operating
 system you paid for (one way or another), windows.  I am curious if
 Microsoft tech support could help you with your GIMP installation.  It
 runs fine on my computer; and I am usually running on windows users
 outdated equipment.  ie, your trash thanks to windows.
 
 for $600 i will make the image on linux for you faster than photoshop
 makes it on windows.  A second image a mere $150.  I will throw in the
 memory management documentation for your other apps for free.
 
 http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/unix/howtos/tile_cache.html
 
 i warn you, even simplified, computer memory management is a difficult
 concept.  There is a good chance that the developers would like you not
 to read carefully through this so they can keep their jobs.
 
 i can guarrentee that they will not reach out and tweak it for you.  they
 are unhappy with the way they needed to make your gui run stable as it
 is.

Please ignore Carol's ramblings. She is talking mainly bullshit here.
Albeit the fact that she has a gimp.org email address she is not
talking on the behalf of the GIMP developers. At least when she's in
this particular mood.

Please don't get a wrong impression from Carol's reply. We are
definitely interested to hear about your in your problems. Even though
most GIMP developers are using some flavour of UNIX, we are still
willing to make GIMP work well on the Win32 platform.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-25 Thread Steve Crane
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 01:47:47PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Please ignore Carol's ramblings. She is talking mainly bullshit here.
 Albeit the fact that she has a gimp.org email address she is not
 talking on the behalf of the GIMP developers. At least when she's in
 this particular mood.

Thanks Sven, I was about to reply to Carol about her message but I won't
bother now.  I must admit that when I first read it I did a double take
and thought WTF, does Adobe pay this woman?  I'm sure she is trying to
be helpful in her own way but given the poison pen she writes with this
may not be a good thing.

 Please don't get a wrong impression from Carol's reply. We are
 definitely interested to hear about your in your problems. Even though
 most GIMP developers are using some flavour of UNIX, we are still
 willing to make GIMP work well on the Win32 platform.

I am not at all unhappy with GIMP's performance (using default settings)
on Windows XP other than the fact that I have noticed a lag before the
file chooser opens when using File|Save As.  I am a developer myself and
work on Windows, so I have GIMP on it for the odd occasions when I need
to do something graphical at work.  Because I don't use it much I
haven't bothered trying to optimise it but I will try doing so to see
what difference it makes.

My comment that I didn't think available memory would impact the time to
open the file chooser for Save As, revolves around the way I do this in
my own programs.  I do no processing before displaying the file chooser
and if the GIMP behaves the same there is no reason for there to be a
lag.  If however, some processing is done before displaying the dialog
then some delay might be expected.

Regards.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Steve Crane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am not at all unhappy with GIMP's performance (using default settings)
 on Windows XP other than the fact that I have noticed a lag before the
 file chooser opens when using File|Save As.  I am a developer myself and
 work on Windows, so I have GIMP on it for the odd occasions when I need
 to do something graphical at work.  Because I don't use it much I
 haven't bothered trying to optimise it but I will try doing so to see
 what difference it makes.
 
 My comment that I didn't think available memory would impact the time to
 open the file chooser for Save As, revolves around the way I do this in
 my own programs.  I do no processing before displaying the file chooser
 and if the GIMP behaves the same there is no reason for there to be a
 lag.  If however, some processing is done before displaying the dialog
 then some delay might be expected.

I don't think GIMP does anything special before opening the file
selector. It might be the file selector itself that causes the
delay. Do you observe similar problems with other file selectors
(for example when exporting a path or loading curves presets)?


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Speeding Up Gimp on WinXP Computer

2004-01-25 Thread Steve Crane
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 04:31:51PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
 I don't think GIMP does anything special before opening the file
 selector. It might be the file selector itself that causes the
 delay. Do you observe similar problems with other file selectors
 (for example when exporting a path or loading curves presets)?

I've never really noticed.  I'll try tomorrow at the office and let you
know.  Here at home I'm running GIMP on Linux as it should be.
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