Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-10 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Sunday 08 May 2005 16:00, David Marrs wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Having all possible toggles visible in a toolbar in the image window be a major waste of screen estate. Sven Not being able to maximse the image window to full screen is a major waste of screen estate. All I'm talking

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-10 Thread Tom Williams
David Marrs wrote: Easier for whom? the users or the developers? Since there's only one GIMP set-up anyway, I don't see how it makes a difference; any suggestion I make is going to be a direct result of the default GIMP set-up that I'm using. I'm not biased by Photoshop, PSP or anything

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I think you unwittingly hit the nail on the head with regard to the GIMP's problem: it insists that its users conform to its way of doing things instead of being malleable so that different users with different approaches can tailor it to suit

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-10 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 10:07:34PM +0100, David Marrs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: it would be better and easier to insist that people work with the default gimp set up before making suggestions about where to put the information. thanks, carol Easier for whom? the users or the

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A message in the status bar makes sense to me. Huh? The application is supposed to tell you all the time that your selection is toggled off? There's only one statusbar and it should be used for useful things. Alternatively, rather than use the status

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-09 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:46:48PM +0100, David Marrs wrote: Hmm, I can't imagine when I did this, but I suppose I must have clicked on one of the other buttons at some point. It would be nice if there was a toolbar in the canvas window itself with the main tool options repeated there.

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-09 Thread David Marrs
Sven Neumann wrote: Having all possible toggles visible in a toolbar in the image window be a major waste of screen estate. Sven Not being able to maximse the image window to full screen is a major waste of screen estate. All I'm talking about is sacrificing 20 pixels' worth of height. If you

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-09 Thread David Marrs
Carol Spears wrote: it would be better and easier to insist that people work with the default gimp set up before making suggestions about where to put the information. thanks, carol Easier for whom? the users or the developers? Since there's only one GIMP set-up anyway, I don't see how it

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-08 Thread David Marrs
Sven Neumann wrote: It was you who set it up that way. The default action of all selection tools is of course to replace the existing selection. The currently active mode is always shown in the tool-options. Sven Hmm, I can't imagine when I did this, but I suppose I must have clicked on one of

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-08 Thread Akkana Peck
Sven Neumann wrote, regarding an indicator for selection visibility: Now what do you suggest? What kind of indication would you have expected? David Marrs writes: A message in the status bar makes sense to me. Off the top of my head, a marching-ants outline of an irregular shape (so as not to

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In trying that just now, I (genuinely) couldn't get the lassoo to work. This is an example of the sort of problem I come across every time I try a new tool, or come back to one that I haven't used in a while. Because I've been using GIMP for a little

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-07 Thread David Marrs
Sven Neumann wrote: Now what do you suggest? What kind of indication would you have expected? A message in the status bar makes sense to me. Off the top of my head, a marching-ants outline of an irregular shape (so as not to confuse with quick mask) with a red X struck through it and a tool

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As an example, I thought I'd try toggling a selection. Bunks mentions in Ch.3 that it's easy to forget that you've toggled a selection so I thought I'd see if this is still the case: I opened an image and used the lasoo to make a quick selection.

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-07 Thread Simon Budig
David Marrs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [Troubles getting lasso selection to work] [...] I finally figured out what the default lassoo action actually does. Maybe there's a good reason for having the primary action intersect and the secondary action add. Whatever it is, it's not to aid

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-06 Thread David Marrs
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Hey! If you think the FAQ section in (the excellent) Grokking the Gimp is a proof that the interface has to be improved, then you should install Gimp 2.0 or even 2.2. ;-) I'm running 2.2 and still find the FAQ invaluable. As an example, I thought I'd try toggling a