Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 19:26 +0200, Sterling wrote:
 Re: HOW TO HIDE THE TOOLBOX  DOCKS - Thanks!!!
 
 I was very dismayed when I first tried GIMP 2.6 and found the toolbox and
 dock always on top of my image window. It meant I had to have a smaller image
 window so I could see the whole image. In earlier versions, I was used to
 having my mouse set to activate and raise whatever window it was over. That
 way I could switch from toolbox to image window with a flick of the mouse. I
 could keep the toolbox, image window, and dock large and easy to see, yet
 instantly available. It took a while to get used to the new way, when I
 originally swithched from Photoshop to GIMP. Now I would never go back to the
 old ways!
 
 It didn't help that I did not know what Hint for toolbox/ for docks meant.
 Not knowing, I didn't try changing them.
 
 Thanks for explaining how to get 2.6 to behave the way (I think) it should!

You can set the window hints to Normal in the Window Management
section in the Preferences dialog to get the old behavior. Or you can
learn to use the Tab key to hide/unhide the dock windows when you need
them.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Am Freitag, den 03.10.2008, 09:50 +0200 schrieb Kristin Falck:
 I'm confused with the new version 2.6. confused with one of the main
 release notes:
 ... and ensuring that the Toolbox and Docks always are above image
 windows... 
 - but they aren't staying above!
 What am I missing? (I'm a Gimp on windows-user)
  
This doesn't work with Windows. So the only think you can do is fix it
in the source code, switch to Linux or just wait.

Regards,
Tobias

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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
Kristin Falck wrote:
 I'm confused with the new version 2.6. confused with one of the main
 release notes:
 ... and ensuring that the Toolbox and Docks always are above image
 windows...
 - but they aren't staying above!
 What am I missing? (I'm a Gimp on windows-user)
  
 /Kristin

Hi

You should have read the release notes more carefully. From 'Known
Problems':

The Utility window hint is currently only known to work well in the
GNOME desktop environment. 

In order for this to work on Windows somebody have to fix the Windows
backend of GTK+.

BR,
Martin

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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Jan Snyder
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kristin Falck wrote:
 I'm confused with the new version 2.6. confused with one of the main
 release notes:
 ... and ensuring that the Toolbox and Docks always are above image
 windows...
 - but they aren't staying above!
 What am I missing? (I'm a Gimp on windows-user)

 /Kristin

 Hi

 You should have read the release notes more carefully. From 'Known
 Problems':

 The Utility window hint is currently only known to work well in the
 GNOME desktop environment. 

 In order for this to work on Windows somebody have to fix the Windows
 backend of GTK+.

 BR,
 Martin

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It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on
top. I use Linux and  now it is not on top. The only way I could get
it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top,
but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance.
Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the
morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that
wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases? It went
really good with RatPoisonWM because all you had to do was quick
resize the toolbox and it made GIMP compatible with the RPWM.
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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
Jan Snyder wrote:
 It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on
 top. I use Linux and  now it is not on top. The only way I could get
 it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top,
 but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance.
 Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the
 morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that
 wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases?


You say I use Linux now [...]. Did you use something else when it worked?

In any case, what GIMP 2.6 has done is simply to change the default in

Edit - Preferences - Window Management

for

Hint for the toolbox
Hint for other docks

to 'Utility window' instead of 'Normal'. This change in defaults was
made possible with the introduction of the Empty Image Window. Perhaps
when it worked you had those set set to 'Keep above' ?

BR,
Martin

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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 05:01 -0400, Jan Snyder wrote:

 It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on
 top. I use Linux and  now it is not on top.

I guess that you enabled the experimental 'transient-docks' feature at
some point, see http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/2005/05/12/transient-docks/

As this setting has several issues as soon as more than one image window
is being used, the UI for it is not included in stable releases. You can
still enable it by manually editing your gimprc file though.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-03 Thread Jan Snyder
Nope, I have never used GIMP on Windows! I only said now randomly. I
think I was just letting know what OS I was using so no one had to
ask. So originally in the developmental releases, the developers just
had it checked in gnome to be always on top, and the ontop feature
wasn't something intrinsic in the new GIMP? That's weir because when I
used the developmental, I seem it remember it being more dynamic, like
the toolbox would always be ontop of GIMP canvas, bu other windows
like firefox would go over the toolbox. This setting in Edit -
Preferences - Window Management seems to just make the toolbox an
uber-window.  Maybe I should go back to the developmental release,
or am I not remembering it properly?

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jan Snyder wrote:
 It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on
 top. I use Linux and  now it is not on top. The only way I could get
 it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top,
 but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance.
 Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the
 morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that
 wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases?


 You say I use Linux now [...]. Did you use something else when it worked?

 In any case, what GIMP 2.6 has done is simply to change the default in

 Edit - Preferences - Window Management

 for

 Hint for the toolbox
 Hint for other docks

 to 'Utility window' instead of 'Normal'. This change in defaults was
 made possible with the introduction of the Empty Image Window. Perhaps
 when it worked you had those set set to 'Keep above' ?

 BR,
 Martin


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