Re: [Gimp-user] Paths Tool Problem
City Ranch cityra...@gmail.com wrote: No matter the size of the photo in height and width and kb I end up with the same problem when I am finished outlining an image in the photo. When I double click on my first anchor for the marching ants I get a double line from the left to the right side in the middle of the image. This double line can be a small as eight pixels wide to as much as two thirds of the image. In order to close the path, pass in Editing mode by pressing Ctrl, and simply click on the first point. Then in order to build a selection from this path, click on the corresponding button in the Path tool options. In fact, closing the path is not even needed, generating the selection does it automatically. -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths Tool Problem
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM, City Ranch cityra...@gmail.com wrote: Version:1.0 StartHTML:000168 EndHTML:002241 StartFragment:000471 EndFragment:002224 gimp 2.6.6 Laptop Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 1 (build 6001) 1.60 gigahertz Intel Core Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cache 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache I use the Navigation window to enlarge and move around image while using the Paths Tool. No matter the size of the photo in height and width and kb I end up with the same problem when I am finished outlining an image in the photo. When I double click on my first anchor for the marching ants I get a double line from the left to the right side in the middle of the image. This double line can be a small as eight pixels wide to as much as two thirds of the image. I suspect this is a misunderstanding on your part of the mechanics of paths. A few screenshots would help a lot if you could do that? If I outline using the Paths Tool two people standing together taking up most of the frame I will get the double line usually from the right elbow of the person standing on your left to the left hip of the person standing on your right. This double line can take out any where from the chest to the knees of the people or a thin line from elbow to hip. I presume the area in question is the area of overlap between those two paths. This is normal -- it is in fact the same mechanic that allows you to have, say, a hollow circle. If it's not what you want, I suggest exporting to Inkscape and using the Union operator to make a path that is the union of those paths. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:03:19PM -0700, Alex Feldman wrote: But it seems as if the paths don't just live in one layer. Isn't normally the case than when you do something (like create a path), you do it in the active layer, and then you can not only toggle visibility of whatever you created with the layer eye-cons, but you could delete it by deleting the layer, etc. In other words, the object lived in that layer, and only in that layer. But that doesn't seem to be the case for paths - they don't really live in any layer, you can get rid of the layer which was active when you created it, and the path remains. layers and paths are two different things. the dance floor and the dance steps, perhaps. the dance steps are not limited by the location the same way paths are not limited to a single layer. Please point me to a tutorial or the manual section (I've looked, really) which describes this, or clue me in directly. i haven't seen anything written about this yet. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
Carol == Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carol layers and paths are two different things. the dance floor and Carol the dance steps, perhaps. the dance steps are not limited by the Carol location the same way paths are not limited to a single layer. OK, but this brings up the larger question - I thought the whole point of layers was that every element of the image would live in one layer and the image could be manipulated that way. I guess I saw it as being like a train - to be on the train, you had to be in one of the cars. You could not be in more than one car at once, and you could not be on the train without being in a car. Do layers work this way, but only for certain kinds of elements? And if so, what is ruling philosophy that determines whether an element will be limited to one layer? Thanks. -- --alex http://alexfeldman.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
On Monday 06 February 2006 10:36 am, Alex Feldman wrote: Carol == Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carol layers and paths are two different things. the dance floor and Carol the dance steps, perhaps. the dance steps are not limited by the Carol location the same way paths are not limited to a single layer. OK, but this brings up the larger question - I thought the whole point of layers was that every element of the image would live in one layer and the image could be manipulated that way. I guess I saw it as being like a train - to be on the train, you had to be in one of the cars. You could not be in more than one car at once, and you could not be on the train without being in a car. Do layers work this way, but only for certain kinds of elements? And if so, what is ruling philosophy that determines whether an element will be limited to one layer? I do not understand your point A path is an independent image element - It does not show in the final rendering of the images at all. It is just a template, like a ruler, for stroking, or filling, or making selections. So, once you make a path, you can strike its countour in any layer you like. Just select the desired layer in the layers dialog, the desired path in the paths dialog, and edit-stroke path. If things were like you are wishing, this flexibility would not exist If you are not using a path, it won't be in your way, it is not a visible image element, just some meta element to add image elements. Thanks. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
Von: Alex Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, but this brings up the larger question - I thought the whole point of layers was that every element of the image would live in one layer and the image could be manipulated that way. I guess I saw it as being like a train - to be on the train, you had to be in one of the cars. You could not be in more than one car at once, and you could not be on the train without being in a car. You can be on a car, for example. Or under it. Both are things that a common to many action films, at least those involving trains. You can also change the car while on the train, and only your inability to clone yourself prevents you from leaving copies in each car. Do layers work this way, but only for certain kinds of elements? And if so, what is ruling philosophy that determines whether an element will be limited to one layer? A layer is just a surface you can paint on, vectors are drawn (GIMP distiguishes between draw and paint). Selections are also not part of a layer, just the things (color, pattern, ...) you fill them with is. HTH, Michael -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
OK, this began as a question about paths, but now I think it combines paths with layers. With the help of eye-cons in the paths dialog, I can work on one path at a time, and have the other ones invisible until I want to see them all. Great. But it seems as if the paths don't just live in one layer. Isn't normally the case than when you do something (like create a path), you do it in the active layer, and then you can not only toggle visibility of whatever you created with the layer eye-cons, but you could delete it by deleting the layer, etc. In other words, the object lived in that layer, and only in that layer. But that doesn't seem to be the case for paths - they don't really live in any layer, you can get rid of the layer which was active when you created it, and the path remains. Please point me to a tutorial or the manual section (I've looked, really) which describes this, or clue me in directly. Thanks very much. -- --alex http://alexfeldman.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
In picture's toolbar click DialogsPaths and you should see paths you've created. On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:17:19 +0200, Alex Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to begin with I draw a Bezier path with the path tool, and save the file. Then I reopen it, and no path. I mucked around looking for it, but I couldn't find it hiding anywhere. I tried it again and the same -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
Alex Feldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am trying to learn the Gimp, mostly from the book, Grokking the Gimp. It has been pretty useful so far, even if my copy, and the online copy, is a trifle out of date. I am using 2.2.8 in FC3. That is, it was useful until I got to section 3.4, The Paths Dialog. Now nothing seems to work. As Carol already pointed out the path tool has been completely rewritten and a changed workflow since GIMP 2.0. Carey's book was written for 1.2, most chapters are still applicable today, but the stuff about the path tool is not. I suggest reading http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch07s06.html#gimp-tool-path and if you still cannot use it properly feel free to ask again. Hope this helps, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
Vytautas == Vytautas P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vytautas In picture's toolbar click DialogsPaths and you should see Vytautas paths you've created. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
Whooops, sorry about that last one. I hate it when that happens. VIn picture's toolbar click DialogsPaths and you should see paths you've Vcreated. Great, thanks. Simon == Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon I suggest reading Simon http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch07s06.html#gimp-tool-path Simon and if you still cannot use it properly feel free to ask again. Very good. I expect I'll be back. -- --alex http://alexfeldman.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:17:19PM -0700, Alex Feldman wrote: That is, it was useful until I got to section 3.4, The Paths Dialog. Now nothing seems to work. the pathtool is probably the most changed tool since gimp-1.2. personally, i would have a difficult time writing how to use the new pathtool. after you work with it for a while, it just seems to start to work. To begin with, the first line in the section reads: Because Bezier paths are so useful, there is a special Paths dialog that allows multiple Bezier paths to be edited, managed, and saved. So to begin with I draw a Bezier path with the path tool, and save the file. Then I reopen it, and no path. I mucked around looking for it, but I couldn't find it hiding anywhere. I tried it again and the same thing happened, both files were the same size. I tried opening an image window and doing nothing, and saving it, and it was smaller than one were I tried to save the Bezier path. There was no undo history in either file, I used the xcf format to save. which version of gimp are you using? gimp only saves its history per session. quit cleans that out. one way that the gimp-2 paths dialog changed is that the paths now work the same way layers do. you can toggle them to be viewable or not, you can export them as svg. i found it more confusing (after the switch) because you can make the paths visible even when the path tool is not active. I then tried a number of other things suggested in the book, including writing the path on one layer, and then toggling visibility (which is what I really was interested in) by clicking on the eye-cons in the layers dialog. I could go into detail about what did happen, but I have a feeling that any number of people know what I was doing wrong at this point, and could fill me in (no pun intended). i don't know how up to date grokking is with the new pathtool. One last thing - if after I have made a path, I change tools, the path disappears, never to return, even if I change back to the path tool. But the path operations remain in the undo history - so I can remove the anchors that I can't see, or put them back. Alas, putting them back doesn't make them visible. So where can learn about all this? Oh, I have looked in the online manual, and it seemed rather terse on the subject. none of these things should have happened. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] paths
Hi, Gert Cuykens wrote: how do you remove the bubbles ? i can add as many bubbles as i want but i cant remove them Set the tool in Edit mode in the options, and then Shift-click will delete the nodes. Keep an eye on the status bar while using the path tool, it gives you useful suggestions for modifier keys, and tips on what the current mode does. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
