Re: [Gimp-user] pop-up dialog windows

2007-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Bauer
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:55:19 -0700
Alex Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This is a very minor issue, just something for the devteam to think 
 about if they happen to be doing something related with the code.

This is Windows specific
 
 I like to have the focus follow my mouse, and not to have to click to 
 raise a window.  That preference has to do with many applications other 
 than the Gimp.  I find when I am cleaning up a photograph with Gimp, 
 often, maybe always, the filter dialog windows pop up right on top of 
 the image window I am working with.  If I don't get the mouse into it 
 quickly enough, it disappears under the image window and I have to move 
 the image to get to it, and then typically move the image back to see 
 all of it.

Hallo Alex,

under windows there are some tools from Microsoft that include
focus follows mouse:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Greetings

Wolfgang
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Re: [Gimp-user] pop-up dialog windows

2007-01-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Quite a lot of effort has gone into improving this behaviour in the
development branch of GIMP. We tried to make most, if not all, popup
windows transient to their parent window. This improves usability a lot
and it reduces clutter in the taskbar.

Unfortunately though it turned out that this doesn't work on the Windows
platform. It doesn't seem to be possible to make dialogs that are
created from a plug-in transient for the image window as that window
belongs to a different process. Windows users will thus not benefit from
a lot of the usability improvements that have gone into the 2.3 series.


Sven



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Re: [Gimp-user] pop-up dialog windows

2007-01-28 Thread Alex Feldman
Hi,

OK, so I've been reading about transient windows, but still have a lot 
to learn.

Usually when I'm retouching photographs, I detach the filters/enhance 
menu (among others) and leave it open on the desktop as I go through 
lots of different images in their own windows.  I call up the unsharp 
mask from this little menu, which is very convenient - great design, but 
does it mean that the popup is transient to the menu window, rather than 
the image window?

I'm using FC5, not Microsoft.  Gimp is 2.2.13, and kde 3.5

Thanks very much for the replies.

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Re: [Gimp-user] pop-up dialog windows

2007-01-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 07:26 -0700, Alex Feldman wrote:

 Usually when I'm retouching photographs, I detach the filters/enhance 
 menu (among others) and leave it open on the desktop as I go through 
 lots of different images in their own windows.  I call up the unsharp 
 mask from this little menu, which is very convenient - great design, but 
 does it mean that the popup is transient to the menu window, rather than 
 the image window?

No, it's transient to the image window.

 I'm using FC5, not Microsoft.  Gimp is 2.2.13, and kde 3.5

In GIMP 2.2, plug-in dialogs are not transient windows.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] pop-up dialog windows

2007-01-27 Thread David Gowers

On 1/28/07, Alex Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

This is a very minor issue, just something for the devteam to think
about if they happen to be doing something related with the code.

I like to have the focus follow my mouse, and not to have to click to
raise a window.  That preference has to do with many applications other
than the Gimp.  I find when I am cleaning up a photograph with Gimp,
often, maybe always, the filter dialog windows pop up right on top of
the image window I am working with.  If I don't get the mouse into it
quickly enough, it disappears under the image window and I have to move
the image to get to it, and then typically move the image back to see
all of it.

I don't think this happens as often with other popups, like the levels
dialog.  It often shows up outside the image window.  If the
algorithm(?) that places the dialog box could either try to find some
open desktop, avoid the image window, or always go to the same place so
I would know to keep the image window away from there, it would improve
my workflow a tiny bit.

Thanks.

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--alex



Sounds like a window manager bug. Logically, transient windows should have
priority when focus-follows-mouse is enabled -- and most filter windows are
now transient.
Knowing which version of Gimp you're using would help -- gimp. 2.2.x may
well still have non-transient filter dialogs.
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