[GO] Buffy Jonathan Patrick
I recently bought a whole load of Buffy DVDs, including series 2 and 3, which I haven't really seen since they were originally on BBC2, and I was surprised at how often Jonathan was actually around. Yes, he was only a proper character in the eps already mentioned, but he's actually floating around having the occasional line in quite a number of eps. But then, he's such a sweetie! Returning to someone's point about the similarities between Angel and Patrick, having just read *Peter's Room* (which I absolutely loved) I thought it was really interesting to read about Patrick's views on courage etc, and how he thought ?Rupert would give in to the threat of torture. Are there any other books in which AF further explores this 'moral ambiguity'? Liss Vote in the Chalet School Fanfiction Awards! http://www.chaletian.co.uk/awards/ -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Buffy ep names
I never see any titles of the Buffy episodes, so I never know where I am when titles are mentioned. Sorry if anyone has replied to this; I get digests at work and as it's Monday morning I have about 10 still unread that came in over the weekend! Anyway, the episode names don't actually appear on the episodes themselves; you can get them easily, though, by googling buffy episode guide and stacks of sites come up where you'll find them listed. Judith (how far off topic is Buffy?!) Judith Ridge Editorial Staff The School Magazine PO Box 1928 Macquarie Centre NSW 2113 AUSTRALIA +61 2 9889 0044 (ph) +61 2 9889 0040 (fax) ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Buffy/Jonathan
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Jonathan's speech when presenting that daft umbrella at the Prom get me every time: Is this the same Jonathan who's part of the three villains later? He's in a lot of episodes. A few examples: In Inca Mummy Girl the Inca Princess tries to drain him; there's an episode where he decides to gun down everyone from the Clock Tower; and (my favourite) in Series 4 there's a wonderful alternate reality episode called Super Star in which everyone adores him and looks up to him and he's the one who saves the world (a lot). And yes, he's one of the Three. And yes, I am a total Buffy nerd. I am gearing up to buy Series 1-7 on DVD later this month by eating a lot of lettuce and toast :). Buffy talk reminds me to ask if any GO people have read a series of high-school books called The Clique. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
Re: [GO] Buffy
Sandra Wright wrote: Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike relationship question. Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy to go off-list!) I loved Buffy and Angel together, but since they can't be, I really want the Buffy/Spike thing to work. Spike is certainly a great character with lots of charisma, I can understand why they brought him back! Kait -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.2.2 - Release Date: 2004-11-12 -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
[GO] Buffy - ON topic, I claim stoutly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike relationship question. Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy to go off-list!) I think Buffy is a GO text, even though it's a. tv and b. often teen romance. The first three series are set at school, and many of the themes-and-issues are VERY GO - friendship and its limits, popularity and its price, public duty versus private pleasure. School stories often have Gothic elements - many of Brazil's do, and there was The Silent Three. As well, the adventure/detecting aspect of Buffy also drives many a GO plot. And finally, Buffy is an entirely GO girl - ringleader, tomboy and chum to the weak. (Rather silken, too, but let that pass.) Hence Angel and Spike are GO too, and as such very, very recognisable. Am I the only one to see a passing resemblance between Angel and Patrick Merrick - not just in the sense of being hotties, but a kind of structural resemblance? Both are the outsider that anchor the group (The Marlow Family, the Scoobies), male where the group is (predominantly) female, though in both groups the masculinity of the outsider is emphasised because there is one male who struggles to seem masculine enough in both groups (Peter, Xander). Both Angel and Patrick are somehow doomed figures from the getgo, both are morally ambiguous, and both are potentially deadly. Both also carry a weight of cultural memory, a knowingness from the past. Spike, otoh, is straight from another kind of literature altogether, the realist novel of the Angry Young Men, and the whole point of him is that he really has no proper place in the Buffyverse socially, which is why he carries such a strong sexual charge of alienness and difference. So after all that faffling, I liked both relationships and thought they both worked superbly in different ways. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
Re: [GO] Buffy
No, Spike is great. Angel just mopes around, full of angst. And his eyes are too close together. Elspeth - Original Message - From: Sandra Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: girlsown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [GO] Buffy Although I am a huge sook, i don;t think I have cried that much over Buffy...I have when Joyce and Tara die but not much else. I bet now though that the tears will come the next time I watch these episodes! Actuallyt, I think I have cried recently, but can';t remember when. I am in the middle of re-watching season 7. Still on Buffy but totally unrelated to Girlsown I am dying to know what peoples' opinions are on the whole Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike relationship question. Am I the only one who prefers Spike to Angel? (Happy to go off-list!) Sandra -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm
Re: [GO] Buffy
I never see any titles of the Buffy episodes, so I never know where I am when titles are mentioned. (Of course, the Swedish sub-titles may cover them up, as they do all the guest starring names.) I thought Tara's death was extremely sad, too. I just never saw it coming! We're on the last season here in Sweden. There can't be many episodes to go as everything is falling apart. Kait Diane Purkiss wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes What episodes, precisely? Innocence. And I know it's in Angel, but it's got Buffy in it: I Will Remember You. And the one where Tara dies. -- Diane Purkiss -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm