Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-29 Thread Christian Couder
From: Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com

 Thomas Rast tr...@inf.ethz.ch writes:
 
 Hrm, you're right, that's a flaw in my logic.  You could do the same in
 all other cases too, e.g. replace a tree so that an entry is of a
 different type and at the same time change the type of the object
 itself.  You however have to carefully go through all objects that refer
 to the one that was replaced, and fix the type in all of them.

 It still seems an extremely unsafe thing to do with trees...
  ...
 Should we add a --force flag of some sort to allow the user to do this,
 while keeping the normal safety checks?
 
 As long as we do not forbid such an unusual replacement on the
 reading side, we won't break people who are more inventive than we
 are (I am not convinced that we know people's workflow well enough
 to definitively say that no sane workflow, which benefits from being
 able to replace an object with another from a different type,
 exists).
 
 Preventing git replace wrapper from creating such a replacement by
 default will make it harder to do and may reduce mistakes, without
 breaking them too much, I think.

I agree. It is always possible to create replacement refs using git
update-ref if one really wants to.

What about using the following in the commit message or in the
documentation:

--

DISCUSSION

If one object is replaced with one of a different type, the only way
to keep the history valid is to also replace all the other objects
that point to the replaced object. That's because:

* Annotated tags contain the type of the tagged object.

* The tree/parent lines in commits must be a tree and commits, resp.

* The object types referred to by trees are specified in the 'mode'
  field:
100644 and 100755blob
16   commit
04   tree
  (these are the only valid modes)

* Blobs don't point at anything.

But if all the objects that point to an object, called O, are to be
replaced, then in most cases object O probably doesn't need to be
replaced. It's probably sufficient to create the new object, called
O2, that would replace object O and to replace all the objects
pointing to object O with objects pointing to O2.

The only case where someone might really want to replace object 0,
with an object O2 of a different type, and all the objects pointing to
it, is if it's really important, perhaps for external reasons, to have
object O's SHA1 point to O2.

And anyway, if one really wants to do that, it can still be done using
git update-ref.

--

Thanks,
Christian.
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Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-29 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder chrisc...@tuxfamily.org writes:

 But if all the objects that point to an object, called O, are to be
 replaced, then in most cases object O probably doesn't need to be
 replaced. It's probably sufficient to create the new object, called
 O2, that would replace object O and to replace all the objects
 pointing to object O with objects pointing to O2.

H.

What the above says, with probably and most cases, can easily
inferred by anybody remotely intelligent, and the only reason to
have something like the above paragraph would be if it assures that
the statement holds without these qualifications to weaken it, which
it doesn't.  I am not sure this paragraph adds much value.

 The only case where someone might really want to replace object 0,
 with an object O2 of a different type, and all the objects pointing to
 it, is if it's really important, perhaps for external reasons, to have
 object O's SHA1 point to O2.

The same comment applies here.

 And anyway, if one really wants to do that, it can still be done using
 git update-ref.

And I really do not think this sentence is right---you can justify
with the same sentence to remove git replace wrapper.

The earlier suggestion to bypass the new hand-holding with --force
is more sensible, I think.
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Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-29 Thread Christian Couder
From: Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com

 Christian Couder chrisc...@tuxfamily.org writes:
 
 But if all the objects that point to an object, called O, are to be
 replaced, then in most cases object O probably doesn't need to be
 replaced. It's probably sufficient to create the new object, called
 O2, that would replace object O and to replace all the objects
 pointing to object O with objects pointing to O2.
 
 H.
 
 What the above says, with probably and most cases, can easily
 inferred by anybody remotely intelligent, and the only reason to
 have something like the above paragraph would be if it assures that
 the statement holds without these qualifications to weaken it, which
 it doesn't.  I am not sure this paragraph adds much value.
 
 The only case where someone might really want to replace object 0,
 with an object O2 of a different type, and all the objects pointing to
 it, is if it's really important, perhaps for external reasons, to have
 object O's SHA1 point to O2.
 
 The same comment applies here.
 
 And anyway, if one really wants to do that, it can still be done using
 git update-ref.
 
 And I really do not think this sentence is right---you can justify
 with the same sentence to remove git replace wrapper.

Ok, so the commit message (excluding the Acked-by and Signed-off-by)
will be only:

--

Users replacing an object with one of a different type were not
prevented to do so, even if it was obvious, and stated in the doc,
that bad things would result from doing that.

To avoid mistakes, it is better to just forbid that though.

If one object is replaced with one of a different type, the only way
to keep the history valid is to also replace all the other objects
that point to the replaced object. That's because:

* Annotated tags contain the type of the tagged object.

* The tree/parent lines in commits must be a tree and commits, resp.

* The object types referred to by trees are specified in the 'mode'
  field:
100644 and 100755blob
16   commit
04   tree
  (these are the only valid modes)

* Blobs don't point at anything.

The doc will be updated in a later patch.

--

 The earlier suggestion to bypass the new hand-holding with --force
 is more sensible, I think.

There is already a --force option, but I can add a --force-type in a
another patch.

Thanks,
Christian.
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Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-28 Thread Thomas Rast
Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes:

 Christian Couder chrisc...@tuxfamily.org writes:

 Users replacing an object with one of a different type were not
 prevented to do so, even if it was obvious, and stated in the doc,
 that bad things would result from doing that.

 To avoid mistakes, it is better to just forbid that though.

 There is no case where one object can be replaced with one of a
 different type while keeping the history valid, because:

 * Annotated tags contain the type of the tagged object.

 If you replace the tagged object and the tag at the same time,
 wouldn't that make the resulting history valid again?

 Granted, there may not be a strong reason to reuse the object name
 of the tagged object in such a case, but this there may not be is
 merely I do not think of offhand, so I am not sure what workflow
 of other people we are breaking with this change.  A light-weight
 tag may already point at the tagged object (in other words, the
 object name of the tagged object is known to the outside world) and
 that could be a reason why you would need to reuse the object name
 of that object while changing its type.

 I dunno.

Hrm, you're right, that's a flaw in my logic.  You could do the same in
all other cases too, e.g. replace a tree so that an entry is of a
different type and at the same time change the type of the object
itself.  You however have to carefully go through all objects that refer
to the one that was replaced, and fix the type in all of them.

It still seems an extremely unsafe thing to do with trees: especially
for small trees there is a small probability that you will generate the
same tree again in the future (by having the same blobs in the directory
again) and record it as a subtree or the 'tree' field of a commit.  The
history would then again be invalid.

Should we add a --force flag of some sort to allow the user to do this,
while keeping the normal safety checks?

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Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-28 Thread Junio C Hamano
Thomas Rast tr...@inf.ethz.ch writes:

 Hrm, you're right, that's a flaw in my logic.  You could do the same in
 all other cases too, e.g. replace a tree so that an entry is of a
 different type and at the same time change the type of the object
 itself.  You however have to carefully go through all objects that refer
 to the one that was replaced, and fix the type in all of them.

 It still seems an extremely unsafe thing to do with trees...
  ...
 Should we add a --force flag of some sort to allow the user to do this,
 while keeping the normal safety checks?

As long as we do not forbid such an unusual replacement on the
reading side, we won't break people who are more inventive than we
are (I am not convinced that we know people's workflow well enough
to definitively say that no sane workflow, which benefits from being
able to replace an object with another from a different type,
exists).

Preventing git replace wrapper from creating such a replacement by
default will make it harder to do and may reduce mistakes, without
breaking them too much, I think.
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[PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-27 Thread Christian Couder
Users replacing an object with one of a different type were not
prevented to do so, even if it was obvious, and stated in the doc,
that bad things would result from doing that.

To avoid mistakes, it is better to just forbid that though.

There is no case where one object can be replaced with one of a
different type while keeping the history valid, because:

* Annotated tags contain the type of the tagged object.

* The tree/parent lines in commits must be a tree and commits, resp.

* The object types referred to by trees are specified in the 'mode'
  field:
100644 and 100755blob
16   commit
04   tree
  (these are the only valid modes)

* Blobs don't point at anything.

The doc will be updated in a later patch.

Acked-by: Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org
Signed-off-by: Christian Couder chrisc...@tuxfamily.org
---
 builtin/replace.c | 10 ++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/builtin/replace.c b/builtin/replace.c
index 59d3115..9a94769 100644
--- a/builtin/replace.c
+++ b/builtin/replace.c
@@ -85,6 +85,7 @@ static int replace_object(const char *object_ref, const char 
*replace_ref,
  int force)
 {
unsigned char object[20], prev[20], repl[20];
+   enum object_type obj_type, repl_type;
char ref[PATH_MAX];
struct ref_lock *lock;
 
@@ -100,6 +101,15 @@ static int replace_object(const char *object_ref, const 
char *replace_ref,
if (check_refname_format(ref, 0))
die('%s' is not a valid ref name., ref);
 
+   obj_type = sha1_object_info(object, NULL);
+   repl_type = sha1_object_info(repl, NULL);
+   if (obj_type != repl_type)
+   die(Objects must be of the same type.\n
+   '%s' points to a replaced object of type '%s'\n
+   while '%s' points to a replacement object of type '%s'.,
+   object_ref, typename(obj_type),
+   replace_ref, typename(repl_type));
+
if (read_ref(ref, prev))
hashclr(prev);
else if (!force)
-- 
1.8.4.rc1.26.gdd51ee9


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Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] replace: forbid replacing an object with one of a different type

2013-08-27 Thread Junio C Hamano
Christian Couder chrisc...@tuxfamily.org writes:

 Users replacing an object with one of a different type were not
 prevented to do so, even if it was obvious, and stated in the doc,
 that bad things would result from doing that.

 To avoid mistakes, it is better to just forbid that though.

 There is no case where one object can be replaced with one of a
 different type while keeping the history valid, because:

 * Annotated tags contain the type of the tagged object.

If you replace the tagged object and the tag at the same time,
wouldn't that make the resulting history valid again?

Granted, there may not be a strong reason to reuse the object name
of the tagged object in such a case, but this there may not be is
merely I do not think of offhand, so I am not sure what workflow
of other people we are breaking with this change.  A light-weight
tag may already point at the tagged object (in other words, the
object name of the tagged object is known to the outside world) and
that could be a reason why you would need to reuse the object name
of that object while changing its type.

I dunno.
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