Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-14 Thread Ryan Anderson
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 02:11:50AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Ryan Anderson: #!/bin/sh echo Don't get a git - use gt! Ouch. :) I meant it as a joke, obviously. I also thinkoed the sentence I was aiming for, thus losing the humor. Oh well. echo Don't get a git

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Ryan Anderson
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 12:35:55PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: David Lang: after so many years of software development (and with the policy of never having conflicting command names) what three letter combinations are still avilable? Lots. I'm assuming that the much smaller

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Ryan Anderson: #!/bin/sh echo Don't get a git - use gt! Ouch. echo Don't get a git - use gt! 2 if at all. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - -

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-13 Thread Junio C Hamano
Debian folks on the list: We had to make this ugly hack in our Debianization because Debian heavyweights did not like to see Conflicts: and us lowly new maintainers needed to obey their wishes. Linus: The alleged name clash appears to be a Debian specific problem. No

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4 [u]

2005-08-12 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus [c]
On Thursday 11 August 2005 23:53, Linus Torvalds wrote: Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this I have a package crap. http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst #Format # #name is the package name; #inst is the number of people who installed this package; #vote is the

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Alan Chandler wrote: Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could _this_ git-core package perhaps ask the user which set of the two packages he wish to keep as git command and use dpkg-divert to change the other to another name to some other name? IIRC,

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, David Lang: after so many years of software development (and with the policy of never having conflicting command names) what three letter combinations are still avilable? Lots. I'm assuming that the much smaller pool of two letter commands was long since exhausted, but if not what

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-12 Thread Junio C Hamano
Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Split gitk off to its own package; it needs tk installed, but nothing else does. I just noticed from dpkg --info output that the generated git-tk has Architecture: i386. Shouldn't it read all and resulting package also named

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, and I bet not just Debian people. Possibly. But the number of people running both git and git are, I'd bet, smaller than those who will send annoying emails when they install git and can't

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, and I bet not just Debian people. Why do you say that? Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claiming so? Some distributions seems to disagree with you.

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, and I bet not just Debian people. Why do you say that? Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claiming so?

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, and I bet not just Debian people. Why do you say that? Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claiming so?

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sam Ravnborg
Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). The cg script has a bit more value. Sam - To

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). The cg

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sam Ravnborg: Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not mandatory anyway (as far as my quick grep told me). I'd vote to keep the scripts in

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:24:10PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Sam Ravnborg: Anyway, enough of this. I understand the name will not change and I'm ok with that. I'll deal with it on our (Debian's) end. The easy fix is to kill the small git script that is not mandatory

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another possible solution: Rename git's git to X and install ours as Y. Ask the user which should be symlinked to /usr/bin/git, if both are installed, via the existing alternatives system. I suggested this on debian-devel, and was told that

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 August 2005 15:11, Junio C Hamano wrote: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid people, and I bet not just Debian people. Why do you say that? Do you have anybody

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: What I have is bug reports against the cogito package, from people who want to install both. The reports came very soon after I released the package, so I dont think it's a totally freak occurance. The point is, people have the thing

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Alan Chandler
Matthias Urlichs wrote: A small Debian-specific patch to rename the offending scripts (and drop the Conflicts: entries) is cheap. Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could _this_ git-core package perhaps ask the user which set of the two packages he wish to

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Urlichs wrote: A small Debian-specific patch to rename the offending scripts (and drop the Conflicts: entries) is cheap. Not sure I understand the proper use of dpkg-divert in Debian, but could _this_ git-core package perhaps ask the user

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Junio C Hamano
Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rank nameinstvote old recent 6591 git 114 24 83 7 2 git-core 2 1 0 1 (Not in sid) 29939 cogito-scm 1 0 1 0 (Not in sid) This obviously

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Christian Meder
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 16:20 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this I have a package crap. Obviously no one on the git list uses GNU Interactive Tools, or this problem would have

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Linus Torvalds: Hands up people. Does anybody _use_ GNU interactive tools? None of this I have a package crap. You're preaching to the converted here. The Debian-package-for-Debian could pop up a notice asking the user to symlink /usr/local/bin/git = /usr/bin/gitscm (or whatever) if

[PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Debian packaging fixes for 0.99.4: - Add a debian/changelog entry. - Split gitk off to its own package; it needs tk installed, but nothing else does. - Refer to GPL properly, don't install COPYING. - Fix maintainer. - Use dh_movefiles instead of dh_install; we don't want to list everything

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On 8/11/05, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian packaging fixes for 0.99.4: Is this anywhere in the archive? cheers, martin - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe git in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Martin Langhoff: On 8/11/05, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian packaging fixes for 0.99.4: Is this anywhere in the archive? Cogito 0.12.1 (which includes git) has been packaged by Sebastian Kuzminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's in Debian Unstable. I assume he'll do

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cogito 0.12.1 (which includes git) has been packaged by Sebastian Kuzminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's in Debian Unstable. I assume he'll do something about packaging the current version; I just filed a wishlist bug in Debian. The current cogito

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/11/05, Sebastian Kuzminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely - it's super bogus to rename the two central programs. It makes Debian essentially incompatible with the rest of the world. Well, I doubt this problem lies with Debian. GNU

Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4

2005-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top man-page I found for GNU interactive tools says: A Set of Interactive Programs Edition 2.5, for GIT version 4.3.16 January 1997 just let it die in peace. The top of the RCS changelog says: Fri Jun 16 06:19:24 1995