Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Graham Jans graham.j...@gmail.com wrote: [...] There's no consensus in the Git for Windows community on what shell to use for interactive work with Git. I, for one, prefer cmd.exe as I tend to use the shell not only for Git. As Konstantin says, there's no consensus. However, I recommend using Git Bash, as it makes utilizing small script snippets etc. that you find around the net more accessible (because you don't have to translate them to windows-style, can just use them in the unix-style presented. This is indeed a valid point. But this is an advanced technique which is not really needed to just use Git or get started with it. As well, getting the various bits of Git Bash to work in cmd.exe requires choosing the correct options when installing; the installer has a big red warning here so most people choose not to do that. Because most people don't really need that. Having only git front-end script (git.cmd) in the PATH is sufficient for usual workflows. As well, the coloring doesn't work for me in cmd.exe. Coloring does work OK for me after setting the core.ui configuration variable to auto. Both in the command prompt and in the built-in pager (less). So all in all I recommend using Git Bash at least for learning. I tend to disagree: using a unix-y shell in a Windows environment does have rough edges; if a person has little experience with command-line (I think he stated exactly this), I'd say it's better to learn native tools first. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Jeffery Brewer jeffery.bre...@gmail.com wrote: Continued thanks for all the help. I'm sorry to be so slow at this...I've just done very little command line operation in the past and probably shouldn't even be allowed near computers at all. I have very little experience on Linux/Unix as well, so I'm really floundering around in the dark here. I learned ls yesterday though, so I'm getting there. So when you say cmd.exe you're talking about just a normal windows command line prompt? Exactly. Like you go to Start and type cmd? Yes. No matter how you run it, cmd.exe is the process which presents you with the regular Windows command line prompt. I tried that initially but only got errors (e.g. $ not recognized). You've fell victim of a typical assumption of the authors of most books/guides/blog posts that the reader is familiar that this symbol denotes a command-line prompt. While this prompt is easily tweakable in any interactive Unix-y command-line shell (which are available in abundance, by the way), the usage of the '$' character in the most common default setting (including the shell found on Mac OS X). Wasn't until I stumbled on the Git Bash thing that I could make Git work at all. That's pretty strange. One reason I could think of is that you did not opted for Git to be included in your PATH when you were installing Git for Windows, so may be when you typed git in the windows command prompt, it told you that program is not found, was it? I know there are GUI's available, but I have a big desire to develop some command line skills and this seems like a reasonable place to start. I figured how to commit files yesterday! Woo hoo! All that seemed to go reasonably well until I did the diff command, which had me lost until I finally typed h and got the help screen. Yeah, you were interacting with the pager called less which is ubiquitous on Unix platforms and which Git for Windows packages for convenience (the stock pager available in Windows, called more is too simplistic to be of any real use). I recommend you to spend some time finding your ways in less as it's able to do nice things like searching (via the / command), wrapping/cutting long lines etc. [...] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
PS: The command like provided with Git for Windows is something like Bash for Linux. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 04:13:50PM -0700, Jeffery Brewer wrote: Aha! Figured out that after installing on windows you don't go to a command line directly, you have to go through Start All Programs Git Git Bash which gives you a different kind of command line. [...] Note that you don't *have to* use Git bash: everything just works in the regular cmd.exe. Actually, the existence of Git bash is due to some parts of Git are written as Unix shell scripts so Git for Windows has to ship with a shell implementing POSIX semantics. There's no consensus in the Git for Windows community on what shell to use for interactive work with Git. I, for one, prefer cmd.exe as I tend to use the shell not only for Git. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
Continued thanks for all the help. I'm sorry to be so slow at this...I've just done very little command line operation in the past and probably shouldn't even be allowed near computers at all. I have very little experience on Linux/Unix as well, so I'm really floundering around in the dark here. I learned ls yesterday though, so I'm getting there. So when you say cmd.exe you're talking about just a normal windows command line prompt? Like you go to Start and type cmd? I tried that initially but only got errors (e.g. $ not recognized). Wasn't until I stumbled on the Git Bash thing that I could make Git work at all. I know there are GUI's available, but I have a big desire to develop some command line skills and this seems like a reasonable place to start. I figured how to commit files yesterday! Woo hoo! All that seemed to go reasonably well until I did the diff command, which had me lost until I finally typed h and got the help screen. On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:46:44 AM UTC-7, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 04:13:50PM -0700, Jeffery Brewer wrote: Aha! Figured out that after installing on windows you don't go to a command line directly, you have to go through Start All Programs Git Git Bash which gives you a different kind of command line. [...] Note that you don't *have to* use Git bash: everything just works in the regular cmd.exe. Actually, the existence of Git bash is due to some parts of Git are written as Unix shell scripts so Git for Windows has to ship with a shell implementing POSIX semantics. There's no consensus in the Git for Windows community on what shell to use for interactive work with Git. I, for one, prefer cmd.exe as I tend to use the shell not only for Git. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/git-users/-/ZTmFPr90CvoJ. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
On Tuesday, 24 July 2012 00:46:44 UTC-7, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 04:13:50PM -0700, Jeffery Brewer wrote: Aha! Figured out that after installing on windows you don't go to a command line directly, you have to go through Start All Programs Git Git Bash which gives you a different kind of command line. [...] Note that you don't *have to* use Git bash: everything just works in the regular cmd.exe. Actually, the existence of Git bash is due to some parts of Git are written as Unix shell scripts so Git for Windows has to ship with a shell implementing POSIX semantics. There's no consensus in the Git for Windows community on what shell to use for interactive work with Git. I, for one, prefer cmd.exe as I tend to use the shell not only for Git. As Konstantin says, there's no consensus. However, I recommend using Git Bash, as it makes utilizing small script snippets etc. that you find around the net more accessible (because you don't have to translate them to windows-style, can just use them in the unix-style presented. As well, getting the various bits of Git Bash to work in cmd.exe requires choosing the correct options when installing; the installer has a big red warning here so most people choose not to do that. As well, the coloring doesn't work for me in cmd.exe. So all in all I recommend using Git Bash at least for learning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/git-users/-/cf-PGK6z3AUJ. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
[git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
Aha! Figured out that after installing on windows you don't go to a command line directly, you have to go through Start All Programs Git Git Bash which gives you a different kind of command line. Was able to set up my configuration settings as described in The Book. Am now at the beginning of Chapter 2 Installing a Repository in an Existing Directory and trying to figure out how to drive the Git Bash over to my existing directory. I tried a dir which in a normal command line gives you a listing of the contents of the current directory, but that's giving me an sh.exe: dir: command not found error. cd seems to work, so I tried a cd c: but not sure I've gone into the root or not. Any way to list files in the Git Bash? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/git-users/-/ORaKXYZbarcJ. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
Ps: after: $ echo dir alias='ls' .bashrc exit relaunch your prompt (bach/command line) 2012/7/24 Łukasz Siwiński lsiwin...@gmail.com: do the following: echo alias dir =ls enter/ if you want to go to c: drive do the following cd /c if you want to go to d: do the following cd /d next I recomend You git magic book (as the first position to read), it helped me practice n'joy. 2012/7/24 Jeffery Brewer jeffery.bre...@gmail.com: Aha! Figured out that after installing on windows you don't go to a command line directly, you have to go through Start All Programs Git Git Bash which gives you a different kind of command line. Was able to set up my configuration settings as described in The Book. Am now at the beginning of Chapter 2 Installing a Repository in an Existing Directory and trying to figure out how to drive the Git Bash over to my existing directory. I tried a dir which in a normal command line gives you a listing of the contents of the current directory, but that's giving me an sh.exe: dir: command not found error. cd seems to work, so I tried a cd c: but not sure I've gone into the root or not. Any way to list files in the Git Bash? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/git-users/-/ORaKXYZbarcJ. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en. -- Łukasz Siwiński +48 504 490 537 http://siwinski.info -- Łukasz Siwiński +48 504 490 537 http://siwinski.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Łukasz Siwiński lsiwin...@gmail.com wrote: Ps: after: $ echo dir alias='ls' .bashrc exit relaunch your prompt (bach/command line) alias dir='ls -Alh' gives more familiar look for windows user personally I use this alias in my linux shell for over 6 years -- Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/lig http://ru.linkedin.com/in/sergematveenko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
Re: [git-users] New user gets lost driving the Git Bash
Thanks to both... how do you move up one level in the directory structure without having to type the entire path? e.g. cd.. On Monday, July 23, 2012 4:30:14 PM UTC-7, Serge Matveenko wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Łukasz Siwiński lsiwin...@gmail.com wrote: Ps: after: $ echo dir alias='ls' .bashrc exit relaunch your prompt (bach/command line) alias dir='ls -Alh' gives more familiar look for windows user personally I use this alias in my linux shell for over 6 years -- Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/lig http://ru.linkedin.com/in/sergematveenko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Git for human beings group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/git-users/-/mBcY5sU4qI0J. To post to this group, send email to git-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to git-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/git-users?hl=en.
