Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-08-03 Thread Jim Forster
Mark, Great post. I'd add some related comments: - In developing areas with little or no communications infrastructure, voice is the most important 'application'. - For voice, cell phones are ideal. - Cell phones are very, very nice for their small size and great battery performance. - Cell

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-07-28 Thread Mark Summer
Tom and others: I think cell phones have their space and useful applications and computers have their specific space and other useful applications. Thinking of using cell phones in class rooms for curriculum delivery seems to be quite a bit far fetched - with a small screen you can do only so

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-07-25 Thread Pat Hall
Dear GKD Members, Tom Abeles is absolutely right, and I do like his slogan about not trying to make the past cheaper. To this I would add that this is an area where market forces do work to our benefit, the large volumes of potential sales in phones and music players and the strong competition

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-07-25 Thread Gary Garriott
On Thursday, July 21, 2005, Tom Abeles wrote: I think that it is nice to think about the $100 computer. But one needs to remember that cell phones are ubiquitous and relatively low cost. One post secondary education institution is developing curricula using the cell phone as the device of

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-07-21 Thread Tom Abeles
Dear GKD Members, I think that it is nice to think about the $100 computer. But one needs to remember that cell phones are ubiquitous and relatively low cost. One post secondary education institution is developing curricula using the cell phone as the device of choice for their students. Cells

[GKD] The $100 Computer is Key to India's Technology Fortunes

2005-07-18 Thread Frederick Noronha
GKD members may be interested in the following article detailing recent progress towards the design of a $100 computer in India. -FN ** http://news.com.com/Indias+renaissance+The+100+computer/2009-1041_3-575205 4.html India's Tech Renaissance

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-03-17 Thread Paul Richardson
Dear Colleagues, On Monday, 14 March 2005, Michel J. Menou wrote: [...] What will we do with waste resulting from 2 billion obsolete 10$ Xputers that might pile up in 2025? Good point (and noted that you are a follow European-based writer). The European Waste Directive forbids us to dump old

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-03-17 Thread Guido Sohne
I noticed that Ghana came up and I wanted to make a few comments since I am based there. On 3/14/05, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Tuesday, 8 March 2005, Don Slater wrote: If Windows XP were sold at the price it usually commands in pirate markets, it would be perfectly OK. Not really. There

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-03-14 Thread Michel J. Menou
I am afraid this discussion tends to be focalized around the dominant consumerist perspective of development. What will we do with waste resulting from 2 billion obsolete 10$ Xputers that might pile up in 2025? Don Slater's points are however well taken. Actually there was a report a few days

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-03-08 Thread Don Slater
This point might seem silly, but surely a very 'sensible' alternative OS would be a very *cheap* Windows XP, with very cheap Office or Works versions? If Windows XP were sold at the price it usually commands in pirate markets, it would be perfectly OK. So doesn't it make just as much sense to

[GKD] The $100 Computer - Another Approach

2005-03-01 Thread Ken DiPietro
Dear Colleagues, Here is a very interesting and topical article discussing the use of Linux-based handheld computers as textbook replacements. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4304375.stm I suppose the question boils down to what we choose to define as a computer. As these devices already

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-03-01 Thread Pat Hall
Dear Colleagues, We have had many thoughtful and thought-provoking postings about the hardware end of that mythical $100 computer, so let's focus back at the software end without which the hardware is useless. We all seem to assume that Linux plus Gnome or KDE plus Open Office is the way forward,

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-23 Thread Bas Kotterink
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, I wrote: 1. Yes, we can technically make an affordable Information Access Device (IOD). Looking at the cell phone prices and the success of the pay-as-you-go model for instance in Africa, I'd say we can provide a $100 'computer'. All the ingredients are there and most

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-23 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 2/22/05, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thursday, 10 February 2005, Sam Lanfranco wrote: Dear Colleagues, The $100 computer for those on the other side of the digital divide has once again surfaced in what are mainly self-promoting (occasionally well intended) pronouncements from various

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Summer
Thanks to Bas Kotterink for summing up some of the key points from the previous emails - it's sometimes hard to keep on top of these discussions. Bas raised as well a few key issues that I think have been only discussed briefly until now, but deserve some more exploration, especially for very low

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-23 Thread Lishan Adam
Dear Colleagues, I read Sam Lanfranco's message and subsequent postings a bit late but with great interest. I share his suggestion for a reality check. We have heard of experiments similar to the $100 computer before: computer in a hole, simputer for the masses, recycled computers for African

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tuesday, 15 February 2005, Pat Hall wrote: This is an interesting posting, and worth unpicking. Sam Lanfranco has just posted a wonderfully incisive analysis of these 'offers'. Even the much vaunted Simputer becomes questionable under this analysis. I don't think so. I posted about this

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thursday, 10 February 2005, Sam Lanfranco wrote: Dear Colleagues, The $100 computer for those on the other side of the digital divide has once again surfaced in what are mainly self-promoting (occasionally well intended) pronouncements from various quarters. You might enjoy (well, that

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-22 Thread Bas Kotterink
Dear Colleagues, Reading the emails on the $100 computer it occurred to me that together you have painted the picture: 1. Yes, we can technically make an affordable Information Access Device (IOD). Looking at the cell phone prices and the success of the pay-as-you-go model for instance in

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-19 Thread Antoine Bigirimana
On 2/15/05, Robert Spear wrote: In an ongoing project in Rwanda, my college has been involved in a very cost-effective partnership with the National University of Rwanda, to deliver computer literacy training to 65 secondary schools. Basically, we have trained a master teacher-trainer from

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-19 Thread udit chaudhuri
Dear Colleagues, At times I feel that this idea falls prey to the typical techie approach, as if attempting to switch off too many problems with one magic circuit design! It seems we jump to developing entire systems based on latest technology (StrongArm processor et al), which is itself derived

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thursday, 17 February 2005, Kris Dev wrote: To my mind, what is required is 5 to 10 community computers available in every village at Indian Rs. 9,000 (USD 200) per computer that can be run on solar power with Wireless Local Loop (WLL) internet connection 24x7 at a very low cost. If this

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On 2/10/05, Parker Rossman wrote: I hope the major computer companies will in time consent for it to be manufactured in the developing world. I suppose Negroponte knows about developments in India, and hopes that mass production can make it cheaper. It isn't a question of permission.

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-17 Thread Ken DiPietro
Dear Colleagues, As I started working in the Personal Computer field in 1981 (showing my age here) and have been involved non-stop in this field since then, I feel as though I might be able to provide some insight. Is the $100 computer a scam, as has been suggested? I guess we need to clearly

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-17 Thread John Hibbs
Dear GKD Members, All posts on this subject are interesting. Obviously, cheaper computers are a good thing. Just as obviously, even if they were free, that would not make them a silver bullet. Why does this remind me of close personal observation in Taiwan related to a young salesman, 30 years

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-17 Thread Kris Dev
To my mind, what is required is 5 to 10 community computers available in every village at Indian Rs. 9,000 (USD 200) per computer that can be run on solar power with Wireless Local Loop (WLL) internet connection 24x7 at a very low cost. If this can be ensured, there can be lot of progress from

[GKD] The $100 Computer and the Jhai PC

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Thorn
Dear Colleagues, I hope this finds you well. I have been following all the various threads on GKD with interest and wish to comment on this one. Thanks to all of you. The Jhai PC and communication system is prominently mentioned as are the MIT and Via projects in the EE Times:

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-17 Thread Mr Sachin Joshi
Dear Colleagues, The questions are certainly justified to be posed, but it is likely that the major computer manufacturers would have looked at the market feasibility, which demands huge resource investments. The Simputer in India costs $200 which many Indian families still cannot afford. So the

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-15 Thread Tom Abeles
On 2/10/05, Parker Rossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope the major computer companies will in time consent for it to be manufactured in the developing world. I suppose Negroponte knows about developments in India, and hopes that mass production can make it cheaper. I don't think it will

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer: A Polite Scam

2005-02-15 Thread Pat Hall
Dear GKD Colleagues, This is an interesting posting, and worth unpicking. Sam Lanfranco has just posted a wonderfully incisive analysis of these 'offers'. Even the much vaunted Simputer becomes questionable under this analysis. I want to take Sam's analysis a little further. (1) If these

Re: [GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-10 Thread Virginia . Cram-Martos
Dear GKD Members, There was a very good segment on the BBC radio programme Go Digital this week on the $100 computer with an interview with Mr. Negroponte as well as input from several commentators. The BBC makes the programme available on its site for a week (in this case, I believe until this

[GKD] The $100 Computer

2005-02-08 Thread Tom Abeles
Dear GKD Members, This article appeared in Red Herring, a publication focusing on the capital markets. thoughts? tom abeles The Hundred-buck PC MIT's Nicholas Negroponte Pushes a Cheap PC for the Rest of the World January 29, 2005 The founder and