Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-12-24 Thread Peter Burgess
Dear Colleagues, Allen L. Hammond posted to the GKD-DOTCOM focused discussion about the upcoming WRI sponsored "Eradicating Poverty Through Profits" Conference in California. I did not go, (budget decision) but I have not seen that much dialog after the conference. I would imagine there was a lot

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-12-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 12/1/04, Peter Burgess wrote: > My current view is that we need to start looking very hard at how human > resources in communities can be used best to produce the most ... and > then market to get the most cash revenue and at the end have the > most value for the community as a whole. I h

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-12-01 Thread Peter Burgess
Dear Colleagues, The dialog has been / is being very stimulating, with a good number of the participants with significant contributions to make to have success in development ... and I think we probably have a reasonable common understanding of what we believe success in development to be. Howeve

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-26 Thread Kiran Menon
Dear GKD Members, This is in response to Graham Knight's suggestion of using the radio as an effective medium of IT transfer to the lesser privileged. We (The Footprint) are presently working with a captive IT services unit of one the biggest electronic goods manufacturers in the world. I have bee

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-26 Thread Tom Abeles
One of the most interesting turn of events is happening in the United States with regards to access to broadband. Cities and towns, ranging from a major center, such as San Francisco to a small rural town in Minnesota are providing or planning to provide area wide broadband to the entire community

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-26 Thread Ken DiPietro
Dear GKD Members, First of all, I would like to say thank you for the warm welcome you all have so graciously shown me. I thought I would share a bit of a conversation I had with someone today. I edited the content for clarity's sake. I hope you find this useful. > I would add the difficult

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-24 Thread Graham Knight
Dear Colleagues, I have resisted entering into this debate up till now because it has been rather too theoretical for my taste. But now a few people are talking about helping the really poor - the billions who often go hungry. Most of them cannot even afford batteries for their radios let alone h

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-23 Thread Adriana Labardini
Dear GKD List Members, Thanks to Pamela, Janice, Peter, Lee, Tom, Kris, Al, Ken, Atanu, and Arrigo for your valuable information, caveats, guidance and volunteering. We now have more pieces of the poverty puzzle together than we did 2 weeks ago. But getting to the designing and planning stage is t

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-23 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 11/19/04, Lee Thorn wrote: > The hard work of the people in Phon Kham and elsewhere in Lao PDR cannot > be over-emphasized. They defined the problems to be addressed, they > searched for solutions that fit their situation, they helped us define > and test their solution and worked hard to achie

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-19 Thread Lee Thorn
On 11/18/04, Arrigo della Gherardesca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's assume one had developed an ICT product (or system), that could be > very helpful to rural communities. We have initiated proof of concept work on the Jhai PC and communication system on the Navajo reservation in Arizona wit

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-19 Thread Pamela McLean
On 11/18/04, Kris Dev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I visited the rural kiosk network and addressed about 50 women > near Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India...They are the volunteer entrepreneurs > who have taken loans and set-up computer kiosks...They are doing a > wonderful job of making the poo

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-19 Thread Peter Burgess
Dear Colleagues, I would also like to thank List Members for their interesting contributions, and I would very much like to hear from other list members about financing modalities to implement a real win-win for socio-economic community development. I very much like the small-scale low cost busin

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-18 Thread Kris Dev
I am intrigued by Cornelio and Pamela's questions and arguments. Recently I visited the rural kiosk network and addressed about 50 women near Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India. Most of them don't know English and are 8th class or 10th class pass and in their mid 30s to 50s. They are the volunteer entrepr

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-18 Thread Arrigo della Gherardesca
Dear GKD List Members, This is a very interesting conversation. Thanks for your interesting opinions! I refer to writings by Pam McLean and others on providing knowledge, information, networking and other services to poor rural communities, through ICT. Let's assume one had developed an ICT prod

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-17 Thread Tom Abeles
Hi Al, Guess I am still a "Doubting Thomas". Perhaps we need to go back and define poverty and exactly what this means. Is it different in a developed country and a developing world? Is it based on consumption? The old "solar" example is very good here. If I hang my clothes out to dry, my capita

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-17 Thread Pamela McLean
On 11/15/04, Cornelio Hopmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (4) Please name a single example listed at > that shows using comparative data (either before/after or > group-in-question/control-group) that the poor end-users of ICT-services > were made less poor by using ICT. This is not an answer t

Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-15 Thread Cornelio Hopmann
Dear Al, (1) It's simply and plainly wrong that "what sells, serves" - sometimes it serves, sometimes it doesn't. (2) It's again a gross misperception that earnings even of hundreds of thousands of "new" middlemen in ICT-service-distribution-chains "eradicate poverty". (3) If it were true, then

[GKD-DOTCOM] Win-Win Business Models

2004-11-12 Thread Al Hammond
For Tom Abeles and others who have joined the conversation recently, I would like to point out that we have documented a number of what we believe can be win-win models, and even sustainable models, in connectivity, agriculture, finance, health care, and other sectors, in detailed case studies that