Re: [GKD] World's Poor to Get Their Own Search Engine

2003-10-23 Thread Tobias Eigen
Hi all,

I'm probably jumping into this discussion a little late, but wanted to
add that www4mail (see http://www.kabissa.org/members/www4mail/)
provides functionality similar to what John describes - allowing the
e-mailer to decide which search engine to use. Kabissa ran a www4mail
server for a number of years, but we have found that our members
(African CSOs) are not using it despite our very actively promoting it
to them. There are a lot of reasons for this, including the fact that
more people now do have (limited!) access to Internet-connected Web
browsers as opposed to e-mail only systems - I wrote a short article on
this in ICT Update:
http://ictupdate.cta.int/index.php/article/articleview/183/1/31/

There are a number of www4mail servers out there, however none of us
have really developed the tool far enough so it is simple for e-mail
only users to understand what it does and how to use it. There is a
mailing list people can join that might want to get involved in this:
http://www.dgroups.org/groups/w4m

And finally, there's a www4mail powered portal called VITA-Connect
that we developed with funding from infoDev but which was never
implemented - the platform is freely distributable open source available
to anyone who wants to check it out:
http://www.kabissa.org/members/vita-connect/get-vita-connect.php

Cheers,

Tobias
--
Tobias Eigen
Executive Director

Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
http://www.kabissa.org

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http://www.timetogetonline.org



Daniel Makundi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was somewhat taken aback by the post below.

 Internet access in third world has populated significantly in the past
 few years: hardly anyone is still using email-only system such as the
 once-popular GreenNet-APC. At least for Tanzania where we have Internet
 access in all major towns and cities, and spreading fast.


 John Mullinax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Very interesting -- one issue with this approach is that the filtering
  happens without the searcher's knowledge or control. One opportunity to
  address this may be to use a transformation gateway to compress content
  (similar to a WAP gateway, but probably not exactly a WAP gateway). The
  gateway may sufficiently reduce the amount of data sent over the wire so
  that the searcher in Malawi, or wherever, can select the items that
  would seem to be most useful. These pages could then be emailed in their
  entirety, per the system described. Just a thought





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Re: [GKD] World's Poor to Get Their Own Search Engine

2003-07-30 Thread Dave Harcourt
I am not sure that this response is too useful it tends to say we don't
have a problem.

The real issue, in my sector at least, is can the small entrepreneur
collect sufficient useful information to justify the cost of going on
line. My experience is that the systems that I use to search the
Internet through my permanent connection really don't work when I am at
a telecenter paying by the half hour. I know its even worse for an
Internet starter.

Therefore I believe that systems that make the information collection
process easier (e.g. TEK, web to email services, sites assembling special
information (e.g. www.safpp.co.za ) are useful.

Regards
  
Dave
  
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http://www.safpp.co.za  .  
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Daniel Makundi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was somewhat taken aback by the post below.
 
 Internet access in third world has populated significantly in the past
 few years: hardly anyone is still using email-only system such as the
 once-popular GreenNet-APC. At least for Tanzania where we have Internet
 access in all major towns and cities, and spreading fast.


John Mullinax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very interesting -- one issue with this approach is that the filtering
 happens without the searcher's knowledge or control. One opportunity to
 address this may be to use a transformation gateway to compress content
 (similar to a WAP gateway, but probably not exactly a WAP gateway). The
 gateway may sufficiently reduce the amount of data sent over the wire so
 that the searcher in Malawi, or wherever, can select the items that
 would seem to be most useful. These pages could then be emailed in their
 entirety, per the system described. Just a thought




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Re: [GKD] World's Poor to Get Their Own Search Engine

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Makundi
I was somewhat taken aback by the post below.

Internet access in third world has populated significantly in the past
few years: hardly anyone is still using email-only system such as the
once-popular GreenNet-APC. At least for Tanzania where we have Internet
access in all major towns and cities, and spreading fast.


John Mullinax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very interesting -- one issue with this approach is that the filtering
 happens without the searcher's knowledge or control. One opportunity to
 address this may be to use a transformation gateway to compress content
 (similar to a WAP gateway, but probably not exactly a WAP gateway). The
 gateway may sufficiently reduce the amount of data sent over the wire so
 that the searcher in Malawi, or wherever, can select the items that
 would seem to be most useful. These pages could then be emailed in their
 entirety, per the system described. Just a thought
 




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