Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-10-14 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Title: Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590 Hello Brandon, Wednesday, October 1, 2014, 1:02:54 AM, you wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Malcolm Wallace <malcolm.wall...@me.com> wrote: How about doing the honest thing, and withdrawing both packa

Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-10-01 Thread Austin Seipp
Hi Malcolm, Withdrawing the packages from GHC's distribution is certainly a possibility. We did briefly raise that point when we talked yesterday too, but it wasn't discussed much. Perhaps some others feel the same, but I imagine more people would be OK with #2 above as opposed to eliminating it,

Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-10-01 Thread Austin Seipp
Hi Ryan, Yes, that or one of the various superclass instance proposals would probably solve this without too much grief, since we could simply export Applicative, then automatically get an instance for it afterwords at no cost. This was very very briefly discussed yesterday, but I left it out of

Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-09-30 Thread Ryan Trinkle
Would something like John Meacham's class alias proposal ( http://repetae.net/recent/out/classalias.html) help alleviate this problem? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Malcolm Wallace > wrote: > >> How about doing the honest thing, and w

Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-09-30 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Malcolm Wallace wrote: > How about doing the honest thing, and withdrawing both packages in > ghc-7.10? Haskell'98 is now 15 years old, and the 2010 standard was never > really popular anyway. There are apparently educators using both, although they're not used

Re: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-09-30 Thread Malcolm Wallace
How about doing the honest thing, and withdrawing both packages in ghc-7.10? Haskell'98 is now 15 years old, and the 2010 standard was never really popular anyway. Regards, Malcolm On 30 Sep 2014, at 21:21, Austin Seipp wrote: Hello developers, users, friends, I'd like you all to weigh

RE: The future of the haskell2010/haskell98 packages - AKA Trac #9590

2014-09-30 Thread Simon Peyton Jones
I hate #1. Let's avoid if unless it's really crucial to some of our users. Simon | -Original Message- | From: ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Austin | Seipp | Sent: 30 September 2014 21:21 | To: ghc-d...@haskell.org; glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org | Subject