Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

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Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Thanks. Between you and Mikhail we got the Windows side covered. :) On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Niklas Larsson wrote: > Hi! > > I put a Windows build here: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/at7wc1dh0lfr7lc/cabal.exe.zip > > Niklas > 2014-05-04 2:24 GMT+02:00 Johan Tibell : > > I just uploaded 1.2

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hi! I put a Windows build here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/at7wc1dh0lfr7lc/cabal.exe.zip Niklas 2014-05-04 2:24 GMT+02:00 Johan Tibell : > I just uploaded 1.20.0.1 so there's only an OS X binary so far. I'm > waiting for someone to send me a Windows one. > > > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Ashl

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

I just uploaded 1.20.0.1 so there's only an OS X binary so far. I'm waiting for someone to send me a Windows one. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Ashley Yakeley wrote: > I couldn't find them, and they're not listed at < > http://www.haskell.org/cabal/download.html> (except OS X), or at < > http

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

I couldn't find them, and they're not listed at (except OS X), or at , or at . -- Ashley On 2014-05-03 17:00, Carter Schonwald wrote: I think there'

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

I think there's now hosted official cabal install binaries online. I'm Afk but they should be a short google away. Should be linked more prominently though On Saturday, May 3, 2014, Ashley Yakeley wrote: > So I want to install GHC + cabal on a new system, building cabal packages > with profilin

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

So I want to install GHC + cabal on a new system, building cabal packages with profiling and documentation. Here's what I have to do: 1. Download, unpack and install GHC. 2. Download and unpack cabal-install, and run bootstrap.sh. As part of the bootstrap, it will download and build a bunch of

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

binaries. I wouldn't mind doing Windows and Linux manually. -- View this message in context: http://haskell.1045720.n5.nabble.com/RFC-include-a-cabal-install-executable-in-future-GHC-releases-tp5742543p5746681.html Sent from the Haskell - Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list archive

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hi, On 23 February 2014 05:48, Carter Schonwald wrote: > Bump! > > have we reached any consensus on the different variations of this proposal? > > a) i seem to recall some of the cabal maintainers expressing interest in > hosting binaries for major platforms Austin promised to provide us with b

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Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Bump! have we reached any consensus on the different variations of this proposal? a) i seem to recall some of the cabal maintainers expressing interest in hosting binaries for major platforms b) some sort of platform-lite thats the ghc bin dist + cabal-install, targeted at folks using haskell on

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

+1 for Carter's proposal - I had actually been planning to make the same suggestion, but just saw this thread now... On 27 January 2014 09:39, Austin Seipp wrote: > As for shipping with GHC itself: this is technically possible, but > slightly annoying to implement, and it also makes the build pr

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hello, My input is this: I think a lot of confusion stems from some documentation that just needs to be cleared up. I think that just cleaning up the pages so that: * http://www.haskell.org/cabal has binaries for Tier 1 platforms: OS X, Windows, FreeBSD i386/amd64, Linux i386/amd64. IMO, there

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

cabal-install doesn't even have to be distributed in one tar.gz with GHC, just merely mentioning cabal-install binaries on http://www.haskell.org/ghc/download will surely help (assuming we get to actually have the cabal-install binaries :) On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Gábor Lehel wrote: > +1

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

+1 to this proposal. The benefits are obvious and practical: when installing a new GHC, it will save users the tedium of having to figure out how to build a cabal-install and then do so before they can install the packages they actually want. The drawbacks are indefinite and amorphous: the download

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

ANYWAYS :) the point is: there is a nonzero population of haskell folks who want to use ghc + cabal-install on a machine where they may not have admin / package manager powers, AND it requires some amount of cabal-install familiarity (or asking around) to find out about the ./boot-strap script tha

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: > On 2014-01-21 at 20:22:48 +0100, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote: > > I feel this blurs the roles of GHC and the Platform. > > IMO, that's a weak argument, as the roles are already blurred: > > GHC comes with `haddock`, `hp2ps`, and `hpc`

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

* Herbert Valerio Riedel [2014-01-22 12:55:53+0100] > On 2014-01-22 at 10:08:02 +0100, Henning Thielemann wrote: > > Am 22.01.2014 09:57, schrieb Herbert Valerio Riedel: > >> On 2014-01-21 at 20:22:48 +0100, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote: > >>> I feel this blurs the roles of GHC and the Platform. > >>

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

On 2014-01-22 at 10:08:02 +0100, Henning Thielemann wrote: > Am 22.01.2014 09:57, schrieb Herbert Valerio Riedel: >> On 2014-01-21 at 20:22:48 +0100, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote: >>> I feel this blurs the roles of GHC and the Platform. >> >> IMO, that's a weak argument, as the roles are already blurre

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

On 2014-01-21 at 20:22:48 +0100, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote: > I feel this blurs the roles of GHC and the Platform. IMO, that's a weak argument, as the roles are already blurred: GHC comes with `haddock`, `hp2ps`, and `hpc` executables which could be provided by the HP instead. Moreover, GHC ships

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Ok, so either a) provide a ghc + cabal-install binary included (heck, its easy to update to a cabal install anyways, and the ~/.cabal/bin path will be before wherever the ghc pkgs are installed anyways. The same argument could be made for packaging happy and alex with ghc too! ). After all, i alr

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

If you can't find any better options, I can try to run a buildbot on a laptop that's probably mostly online. On 21/01/2014 19:32, Johan Tibell wrote: > We could offer OS X and Linux binaries in addition to the Windows > binaries already downloaded on the cabal home page > (http://www.haskell.org/

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Agreed. That's exactly what we have Platform for: to give the user an integrated set of tools. My vote is to have only the things that are really necessary being included in the ghc distribution. Отправлено с iPad > 21 янв. 2014 г., в 23:22, Ganesh Sittampalam написал(а): > > I feel this blur

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

We could offer OS X and Linux binaries in addition to the Windows binaries already downloaded on the cabal home page (http://www.haskell.org/cabal/) if someone could commit to building them. Aside: Right now building the Windows binaries is a very ad-hoc process (I email Mikhail who has a Windows

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

I feel this blurs the roles of GHC and the Platform. Can't the cabal-install that comes with the Platform can be used with a later GHC installation? If that's correct, then the only use case that this proposal covers is someone who wants to use a bleeding edge GHC and no other version on a new mac

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

On 2014-01-20 at 01:02:27 +0100, Carter Schonwald wrote: > I'd like to propose that GHC releases 7.8.1 onwards include a cabal-install > (aka cabal) executable, but not include the library deps of cabal-install > that aren't already distributed with ghc.(unless ghc should have those deps > baked in

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Agreed, this would improve usability of binary GHC releases a lot, and I don't see any downsides. +1 Roman * Carter Schonwald [2014-01-19 19:02:27-0500] > Hey everyone, > > I'd like to propose that GHC releases 7.8.1 onwards include a cabal-install > (aka cabal) executable, but not include the

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

indeed, after thinking a wee bit more, yes, it'd be AMAZING if cabal devs made binaries visibly available to the community! (also, it does seem like cabal / cabal-install docs aren't super discoverable for some people) On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Oren Ben-Kiki wrote: > Hear hear! This wou

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hi, On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Carter Schonwald wrote: > that still requires some discovery though! The idea (i'd hope) would be to > make the "my first ghc install on a vm" (for experts and new folks both) Regardless, I think it should be the Cabal developers' job to provide pre-built cab

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Carter Schonwald wrote: > that still requires some discovery though! The idea (i'd hope) would be to > make the "my first ghc install on a vm" (for experts and new folks both) > > go from > > #install ghc via whatever mechanism, eg wget, guntar, cd blah ; make > install PREFIX=yah > #figure out

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

that still requires some discovery though! The idea (i'd hope) would be to make the "my first ghc install on a vm" (for experts and new folks both) go from #install ghc via whatever mechanism, eg wget, guntar, cd blah ; make install PREFIX=yah #figure out how to install cabal, eg discover wget an

Re: RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hi, On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Carter Schonwald wrote: > > point being: It'd be great for haskell usability (and egads amounts of > config time, even by seasoned users) the ghc bindists / installers included > a cabal-install binary For Windows, we provide a stand-alone cabal.exe on the Ca

RFC: include a cabal-install executable in future GHC releases

Hey everyone, I'd like to propose that GHC releases 7.8.1 onwards include a cabal-install (aka cabal) executable, but not include the library deps of cabal-install that aren't already distributed with ghc.(unless ghc should have those deps baked in, which theres very very good reasons not to do.).