Re: Status of stack trace work

2012-11-08 Thread Simon Marlow
On 08/11/12 05:43, Johan Tibell wrote: I can't wait until we have some for of stack traces in GHC. What's the current status? Did the semantics you presented at HIW12 work out? Even though the full bells and whistles of full stack traces is something I'd really like to see, even their more

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Simon Hengel
Hi Edward, thanks a lot for your reply. rnf can be thought of a function which produces a thunk (for unit) which, when forced, fully evaluates the function. With this in hand, it's pretty clear how to use evaluate to enforce ordering: evaluate (rnf ('a': throw exceptionA)) So if I

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Albert Y. C. Lai
On 12-11-08 07:12 AM, Simon Hengel wrote: I was just going to say that I can give at least one counterexample where this does not hold: evaluate (('a' : undefined) `deepseq` return () :: IO ()) throwIO exceptionB But then I realized that here exceptionA is optimized away altogether. For

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Nicolas Frisby
And the important observation is: all of them throw A if interpreted in ghci or compiled without -O, right? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Albert Y. C. Lai tre...@vex.net wrote: On 12-11-08 07:12 AM, Simon Hengel wrote: I was just going to say that I can give at least one counterexample

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Albert Y. C. Lai
On 12-11-08 01:01 PM, Nicolas Frisby wrote: And the important observation is: all of them throw A if interpreted in ghci or compiled without -O, right? Yes. ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Edward Z. Yang
It looks like the optimizer is getting confused when the value being evaluated is an IO action (nota bene: 'evaluate m' where m :: IO a is pretty odd, as far as things go). File a bug? Cheers, Edward Excerpts from Albert Y. C. Lai's message of Thu Nov 08 10:04:15 -0800 2012: On 12-11-08 01:01

Re: Using DeepSeq for exception ordering

2012-11-08 Thread Antoine Latter
Is this related to imprecise exceptions? http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/imprecise-exn.htm Antoine On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Nicolas Frisby nicolas.fri...@gmail.comwrote: And the important observation is: all of them throw A if interpreted in ghci or