Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-15 Thread James Roberts via GLLUG
On 14/05/2020 04:40, Christopher Hunter via GLLUG wrote: That's Virgin "engineers"! That's virgin' on the ridiculous... MeJ -- In accordance with UK Government directives due to the Covid-19 situation, our office is temporarily closed. All staff are working from home. These

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Christopher Hunter via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 13:23, Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: On 13/05/2020 13:20, John Winters via GLLUG wrote: P.S. I've found in the past that the best way to get one of the slot-in plates is to ply a friendly BT technician with tea and chocolate digestives (plain chocolate obviously). WARNING:

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Fred Youhanaie via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 17:30, Jan van Bergen via GLLUG wrote: On 2020-05-13 17:20, James Courtier-Dutton via GLLUG wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:14, Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: > ...MUST NOT (rfc2119)  > > I bet you know what BSI 0 is as well :-) I once worked on a bid where the

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Chris Bell via GLLUG
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:21:50 BST Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: > With so few people having / using POTS telephones these days, it is > really hard to explain to people that the quality of the line affected > the quality of the data. Most of the time when I turn up to fault-find a > xDSL

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Jan van Bergen via GLLUG
On 2020-05-13 17:20, James Courtier-Dutton via GLLUG wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:14, Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: > ...MUST NOT (rfc2119) > > I bet you know what BSI 0 is as well :-) I once worked on a bid where the customer said we had to be 100% compliant to all the

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread James Courtier-Dutton via GLLUG
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:14, Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: > > > > > ...MUST NOT (rfc2119) > > > > > I bet you know what BSI 0 is as well :-) > I once worked on a bid where the customer said we had to be 100% compliant to all the requirements. It was valued at about £10Million. So, I

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Marco van Beek via GLLUG
...MUST NOT (rfc2119)  I bet you know what BSI 0 is as well :-) -- GLLUG mailing list GLLUG@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Alistair Mann via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 13:21, Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: With so few people having / using POTS telephones these days, it is really hard to explain to people that the quality of the line affected the quality of the data. Among my older clients they've always understood it when analogised to a

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Chris Bell via GLLUG
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:21:50 BST Marco van Beek via GLLUG wrote: > With so few people having / using POTS telephones these days, it is > really hard to explain to people that the quality of the line affected > the quality of the data. Most of the time when I turn up to fault-find a > xDSL

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Marco van Beek via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 13:20, John Winters via GLLUG wrote: P.S. I've found in the past that the best way to get one of the slot-in plates is to ply a friendly BT technician with tea and chocolate digestives (plain chocolate obviously). WARNING: Do not feed them after midnight. They turn into Virgin

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Marco van Beek via GLLUG
With so few people having / using POTS telephones these days, it is really hard to explain to people that the quality of the line affected the quality of the data. Most of the time when I turn up to fault-find a xDSL line, I start by plugging a £10 handset into the line, and then have to tell

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread John Winters via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 12:29, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: [snip] Undo the two screws holding the lower panel and remove it. You may need to transfer any telephone wiring originally connected direct to the back to the replacement panel, there should be similar IDC connection points on the new one, then

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Scott via GLLUG
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:01:42AM +0100, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > Hello Frank, > You could find that you get an improvement by using a replacement lower front > panel VDSL filter for the incoming BT NTE5 termination box which will block > the > data from entering your internal telephone

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Chris Bell via GLLUG
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:45:39 BST Henrik Morsing via GLLUG wrote: > On 13-May-20 11:01 AM, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: > > Hello Frank, > > You could find that you get an improvement by using a replacement lower > > front panel VDSL filter for the incoming BT NTE5 termination box which > >

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread John Winters via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 11:45, Henrik Morsing via GLLUG wrote: [snip] Any chance of a pretty ASCII diagram of that? I'm sure I follow your replacement route and wiring. Not sure about ASCII art, but here are some photos of a slightly old one. https://photos.app.goo.gl/BqgyZtjSg79gC2DH9 Modern ones

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Henrik Morsing via GLLUG
On 13-May-20 11:01 AM, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: Hello Frank, You could find that you get an improvement by using a replacement lower front panel VDSL filter for the incoming BT NTE5 termination box which will block the data from entering your internal telephone wiring. It will bypass the line

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Christopher Hunter via GLLUG
On 13/05/2020 11:01, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: Hello Frank, You could find that you get an improvement by using a replacement lower front panel VDSL filter for the incoming BT NTE5 termination box which will block the data from entering your internal telephone wiring. It will bypass the line

Re: [GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Marco van Beek via GLLUG
I love it when people remind us that at the end of the day, all data is analogue once it hits a copper wire! Kudos to a proper bit of communications engineering, Chris :-) On 13/05/2020 11:01, Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote: Hello Frank, You could find that you get an improvement by using a

[GLLUG] Internet Data Rate

2020-05-13 Thread Chris Bell via GLLUG
Hello Frank, You could find that you get an improvement by using a replacement lower front panel VDSL filter for the incoming BT NTE5 termination box which will block the data from entering your internal telephone wiring. It will bypass the line filter in the standard box, which destroys the