Re: [gmx-users] g_dipole ? = The salt molecule = The discrepancy of dipole moment between my calculation and GROMACS

2010-10-21 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey Lin, Did you consider PBC? Also, I wouldn't include the bromide if I were you, as it just adds noise, because it can move around freely. You seem to be interested in the change in dipole moment in the cation only, anyway. Cheers, Tsjerk On Oct 21, 2010 7:02 AM, Chih-Ying Lin

Re: [gmx-users] Reg: Running Energy minimisation for dichloroethane (DCE)

2010-10-21 Thread vinothkumar mohanakrishnan
Hi justin I found what went wrong and i corrected my mdp file.now the system equilibrated to the desired temperature 300 K (plus r minus 30 K) is this ok? Apart from that i want to know how you plot the average running pressure and density in your tutorial for lyzosyme (redline). i just want to

Re: [gmx-users] Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Justin If I do two MD simulations for a short time in the same conditions(of course separately for protein and drug) and calculate total energy of each one and sum them with each other as E1 as nonbonding free energy of system. then a MD simulation for Protein-drug system in the same

Re: [gmx-users] Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread Sander Pronk
Hi Mohsen, The mean energy difference is only one component of the free energy difference. Before you go any further I'd suggest reading a good book on molecular simulations, like 'Understanding Molecular Simulations' by Frenkel and Smit. There's a good reason free energy calculations cover

Re: [gmx-users] g_dipole ? = salt molecule in water = what is the the displacement vector pointing from the negative charge to the positive charge?

2010-10-21 Thread Timo M.D. Graen
reconsider your statement about the displacement vector. You should try to understand the concepts of vectors and reference points first. It is absolutely mandatory to do so before calculating dipole moments of charged systems. It might also be wise to use a small test system to practice on.

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Actually, I believe that using the energy difference, Delta E, as an approximation to the free energy difference, Delta G, is a valid approach (which I'm considering myself). The entropic contribution to Delta G, namely -T Delta S, may be less prominent than Delta E. In addition, Delta S can be

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread David van der Spoel
On 2010-10-21 10.39, Ehud Schreiber wrote: Actually, I believe that using the energy difference, Delta E, as an approximation to the free energy difference, Delta G, is a valid approach (which I'm considering myself). The entropic contribution to Delta G, namely -T Delta S, may be less prominent

[gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi, does anyone have experience with AMD's 12-core Magny-Cours processors? With 48 cores on a node it is essential that the processes are properly pinned to the cores for optimum performance. Numactl can do this, but at the moment I do not get good performance with 4.5.1 and threads, which still

RE: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, We haven't observed any problems running with threads over 24 core AMD nodes (4x6 cores). Berk From: ckut...@gwdg.de Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:03:00 +0200 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Subject: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs Hi, does anyone have experience

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Sander Pronk
Hi Carsten, As Berk noted, we haven't had problems on 24-core machines, but quite frankly I haven't looked at thread migration. Currently, the wait states actively yield to the scheduler, which is an opportunity for the scheduler to re-assign threads to different cores. I could set harder

[gmx-users] published paper related to protein simulation using gromacs

2010-10-21 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Dear Gromacs users, I am new user Gromacs. I want to study on protein simulation using gromacs. If possible, Can you send a few articles on the protein simulation using Gromacs?For example, I downloaded from Protein Data Base the PDB extension file of any protein. What is the purpose of protein

Re: [gmx-users] Force-field files location and order of reading in Gromacs 4.5.2

2010-10-21 Thread Karel Berka
Karel Berka wrote: Hi all, I have detected that preference in reading forcefield files in Gromacs 4.5 has probably been changed from Gromacs 4.0.x and older. In older gromacs, when there was forcefield with modification present in my working directory, then it was read

Re: [gmx-users] Reg: Running Energy minimisation for dichloroethane (DCE)

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote: Hi justin I found what went wrong and i corrected my mdp file.now the system equilibrated to the desired temperature 300 K (plus r minus 30 K) is this ok? This is impossible to assess without seeing your .mdp settings. A fluctuation of 10% is probably

Re: [gmx-users] published paper related to protein simulation using gromacs

2010-10-21 Thread Deniz KARASU
Ahmet, For starting you can read Leach's book (Molecular modeling: principles and applications). This book gives you theoretical background and opinion about application areas of molecular dynamics (MD) simulation. Gromacs is only a simulation tool to do MD simulation, after understanding MD you

Re: [gmx-users] Force-field files location and order of reading in Gromacs 4.5.2

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Karel Berka wrote: Karel Berka wrote: Hi all, I have detected that preference in reading forcefield files in Gromacs 4.5 has probably been changed from Gromacs 4.0.x and older. In older gromacs, when there was forcefield with modification present in

[gmx-users] Re: published paper related to protein simulation, using gromacs

2010-10-21 Thread Thomas Schlesier
Hi, use ISI Web of Knowledge or scholar.google, search for 'protein + gromacs' and you should get tons of results. Greetings Thomas Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:29:11 +0300 From: ahmet y?ld?r?mahmedo...@gmail.com Subject: [gmx-users] published paper related to protein simulation using

RE: [gmx-users] Re: published paper related to protein simulation, using gromacs

2010-10-21 Thread #ZHAO LINA#
Hi, I think, started from some gromacs tutorial is a nice ideas and then during those process you certainly will meet some paper. lina From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Thomas Schlesier

Re: [gmx-users] Reg: Running Energy minimisation for dichloroethane (DCE)

2010-10-21 Thread vinothkumar mohanakrishnan
Hi Justin Below is my nvt.mdp (nvt equilibration) file.i think probably you can have look at it and its not such big. define = -DFLEXIBLE integrator = md nsteps = 5 dt= 0.002 nstxout

Re: [gmx-users] Reg: Running Energy minimisation for dichloroethane (DCE)

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote: Hi Justin Below is my nvt.mdp (nvt equilibration) file.i think probably you can have look at it and its not such big. define = -DFLEXIBLE You should never run MD with flexible water. All the water models included in Gromacs

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi Sander, On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Sander Pronk wrote: Hi Carsten, As Berk noted, we haven't had problems on 24-core machines, but quite frankly I haven't looked at thread migration. I did not have any problems on 32-core machines as well, only on 48-core ones. Currently, the

Re: [gmx-users] Reg: Running Energy minimisation for dichloroethane (DCE)

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote: Hi Justin Thank you for your suggestion. I am doing equilibration of DCE (108 molecules) alone in a box and there is no water molecule inside the box. cant i use -DFLEXIBLE for DCE?. by the way i will try your suggestion about xmgrace. In that case,

[gmx-users] CHARMM36 lipid bilayers

2010-10-21 Thread Sven Jakobtorweihen
Dear gmx-users, recently Pär Bjelkmar and Thomas Piggot have generated force field files for Charmm36 lipids. I run some simulations to find the best run parameters and to check if the results of the original Charmm36 lipid article [Klauda et al., J. Phys Chem. B, 2010, 114, 7830) can be

RE: [gmx-users] CHARMM36 lipid bilayers

2010-10-21 Thread Berk Hess
Hi, You have very strange and complex cut-off settings in Gromacs. What Charmm settings are you trying to mimic? Berk Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:03:51 +0200 From: jakobtorwei...@tuhh.de To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Subject: [gmx-users] CHARMM36 lipid bilayers Dear gmx-users, recently Pär

[gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello, I am working on a system which has a diatomic solute surrounded by water molecules. I want to calculate the energy for each step with and with out charge on solute simultaneously. Pl. help me solve this problem. Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org

Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Abraham
On 21/10/2010 11:55 PM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am working on a system which has a diatomic solute surrounded by water molecules. I want to calculate the energy for each step with and with out charge on solute simultaneously. Pl. help me solve this problem. I don't understand what you

Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
I am doing solvation dynamics for my system. I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water molecules. I want to run simulation with two differcent cases. 1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute 2. PA charge=+1 and NE charge=-1 : Charge on solute I want to calculate

Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Nilesh Dhumal wrote: I am doing solvation dynamics for my system. I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water molecules. I want to run simulation with two differcent cases. 1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute 2. PA charge=+1 and NE charge=-1 : Charge on

Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Abraham
On 22/10/2010 1:17 AM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: I am doing solvation dynamics for my system. I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water molecules. I want to run simulation with two differcent cases. 1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute 2. PA charge=+1 and NE

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Sander Pronk
Thanks for the information; the OpenMPI recommendation is probably because OpenMPI goes to great lengths trying to avoid process migration. The numactl doesn't prevent migration as far as I can tell: it controls where memory gets allocated if it's NUMA. For gromacs the setting should of

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Carsten Kutzner
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sander Pronk wrote: Thanks for the information; the OpenMPI recommendation is probably because OpenMPI goes to great lengths trying to avoid process migration. The numactl doesn't prevent migration as far as I can tell: it controls where memory gets allocated

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Sander Pronk
On 21 Oct 2010, at 16:50 , Carsten Kutzner wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sander Pronk wrote: Thanks for the information; the OpenMPI recommendation is probably because OpenMPI goes to great lengths trying to avoid process migration. The numactl doesn't prevent migration as far as

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Esztermann, Ansgar
Thanks for the information; the OpenMPI recommendation is probably because OpenMPI goes to great lengths trying to avoid process migration. The numactl doesn't prevent migration as far as I can tell: it controls where memory gets allocated if it's NUMA. My understanding is that processes

Re: [gmx-users] CHARMM36 lipid bilayers

2010-10-21 Thread Thomas Piggot
Hi Sven, I have also seen similar things from the area per lipid of the bilayers I have run (POPC and DPPC). I would suggest you try running with the CHARMM TIP3P water (tips3p.itp) and see if you get values which are closer to the ones published in the paper you mention. This will be discussed

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.1 on 48 core magny-cours AMDs

2010-10-21 Thread Ondrej Marsalek
Hi, FWIW, I have recently asked about this in the hwloc mailing list: http://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/hwloc-users/2010/10/0232.php In general, hwloc is a useful tool for these things. http://www.open-mpi.org/projects/hwloc/ Best, Ondrej On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:03, Carsten Kutzner

[gmx-users] g_dipole ? = The salt molecule = The discrepancy of dipole moment between my calculation and GROMACS

2010-10-21 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
HI dipole moment = 48.0 sum of q_i x_i x_i is the atomic position. The PBC is considered. I did not include the counter ion of the salt molecule in my calculation. The salt molecule is A-N(CH3)3-Br and it has two structures, cis and trans. Here A are a string of atoms, most of them are carbons.

[gmx-users] Problems with NVT simulation with CHARMM27

2010-10-21 Thread sa
Dear All, I am trying to equilibrate in NVT ensemble of a peptide with glycolipid (GL) molecules in a cubic box filled with TIP3P water (from Mackerell et al.). The force field for GL were converted to GROMACS format from CHARMM27 force field with additional parameters non present in the

[gmx-users] g_dipole ? = dipole moment = trans-structure is more hydrophobic than the cis-structure ?

2010-10-21 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi In one paper, the salt-molecule has two structures, trans and cis. The sentence in the paper is that trans-structure is more hydrophobic than the cis-structure without providing the value of the dipole moment. I wonder know if the value of dipole moment is the main indicator to decide if

[gmx-users] g_dipole ? =salt-molecule = the relative position of counter ions to the rest of salt-molecule matters ???

2010-10-21 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
HI As Timo M.D. Graen described As long as the system is neutral, the reference point will not affect the calculation result of the dipole moment for the system. On the other hand, I also play around the small salt-molecule as Timo M.D. Graen suggested. take two ions for a start, Na+ and Cl-,

Re: [gmx-users] GPU slower than I7

2010-10-21 Thread Roland Schulz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Renato Freitas renato...@gmail.com wrote: Hi gromacs users, I have installed the lastest version of gromacs (4.5.1) in an i7 980X (6 cores or 12 with HT on; 3.3 GHz) with 12GB of RAM and compiled its mpi version. Also I compiled the GPU-accelerated version

Re: [gmx-users] problem with energy groups and mdrun -rerun option

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
jagannath mondal wrote: Hi, I have used gromacs 4.0.7 to do MD simulation of two solutes A B in water ( solvent) . Initially, I had set energy groups = system and used mdrun to do the simulation. Now,I wanted to get the potential energy contribution from due to interaction of A-A,

Re: [gmx-users] problem with energy groups and mdrun -rerun option

2010-10-21 Thread jagannath mondal
Justin,Thanks  for your reply.  Then I wonder whether there is any other way out in gromacs to get the net interaction potential energy due to each of the components in a simulations.  I am asking this, many times people report the potential energy contribution due to solvent-solvent

Re: [gmx-users] problem with energy groups and mdrun -rerun option

2010-10-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
jagannath mondal wrote: Justin, Thanks for your reply. Then I wonder whether there is any other way out in gromacs to get the net interaction potential energy due to each of the components in a simulations. I am asking this, many times people report the potential energy contribution due

Re: [gmx-users] GPU slower than I7

2010-10-21 Thread Renato Freitas
Thanks Roland. I will do a newer test using the fourier spacing equal to 0.11. However, about the performance of GPU versus CPU (mpi) let me try to explain it better: The simulation using gromacs with GPU started and finished: Started mdrun on node 0 Wed Oct 20 09:52:09 2010 Finished mdrun on

[gmx-users] molecular surface area(MSA)?

2010-10-21 Thread jagannath mondal
Hi,  I was wondering whether gromacs can calculate a quantity called molecular surface area(MSA) which is different from solvent accessible surface area(SASA). By definition, SASA of a molecule is the area of surface traced by center of a spherical water probe rolling on a vander wall surface of

RE: [gmx-users] molecular surface area(MSA)?

2010-10-21 Thread Dallas Warren
What you want then is a Connolly surface? Which I gather is what GROMACS actually calculates, http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg12518.html Catch ya, Dr. Dallas Warren Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Action Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University

Re: [gmx-users] GPU slower than I7

2010-10-21 Thread Roland Schulz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Renato Freitas renato...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Roland. I will do a newer test using the fourier spacing equal to 0.11. I'd also suggest to look at g_tune_pme and run with different rcoulomb, fourier_spacing. As long as the ratio is the same you get the same

[gmx-users] g_dipole ? =salt-molecule = Does Gromacs consider counter ions?

2010-10-21 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi When I issued the command g_dipole, the dialog poped out and asked me to select a group. 1. system 2. protein . 11. solvent 12. the rest of the salt-molecule except its counter ion 13. counter ions (CL-) If I select #12, Gromacs will not consider counter ions to calculate the

Re: [gmx-users] problem with energy groups and mdrun -rerun option

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Abraham
On 22/10/2010 8:21 AM, jagannath mondal wrote: Hi, I have used gromacs 4.0.7 to do MD simulation of two solutes A B in water ( solvent) . Initially, I had set energy groups = system and used mdrun to do the simulation. Now,I wanted to get the potential energy contribution from due to