Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Shirts
Hi, all- At this point, any fixes are going to be in the 5.0 version, where the integrators will be a bit different. If you upload your system files to redmine.gromacs.org (not just the .mdp), then I will make sure this gets tested there. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Guillaume Chevrot wrot

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-25 Thread Guillaume Chevrot
Dear Xavier, 2013/10/12 XAvier Periole > > Could you try to reduce the nstcalcenergy flag from 100 to 10 and then one? > > FYI, I tried 10 and 1 and the energy drift is exactly the same. > Similar flags apply to temperature and pressure and I believe might > seriously affect energy conserva

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-13 Thread Mark Abraham
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Guillaume Chevrot < guillaume.chev...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/10/12 Mark Abraham > > > Didn't see any problem in the .mdp. -4500 kJ/mol in 10ns over (guessing) > > 30K atoms is 0.015 kJ/mol/ns/atom. k_B T is at least 100 times larger > than > > that. I bet the r

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-12 Thread Guillaume Chevrot
2013/10/12 XAvier Periole > > Could you try to reduce the nstcalcenergy flag from 100 to 10 and then one? > > Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try next week and I'll show the results ASAP. Guillaume > Similar flags apply to temperature and pressure and I believe might > seriously affect ene

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-12 Thread Guillaume Chevrot
2013/10/12 Mark Abraham > Didn't see any problem in the .mdp. -4500 kJ/mol in 10ns over (guessing) > 30K atoms is 0.015 kJ/mol/ns/atom. k_B T is at least 100 times larger than > that. I bet the rest of the lysozyme model physics is not accurate to less > than 1% ;-) There are some comparative num

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-12 Thread XAvier Periole
Could you try to reduce the nstcalcenergy flag from 100 to 10 and then one? Similar flags apply to temperature and pressure and I believe might seriously affect energy conservation. XAvier. > On Oct 12, 2013, at 0:50, Mark Abraham wrote: > > Didn't see any problem in the .mdp. -4500 kJ/mo

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-11 Thread Mark Abraham
Didn't see any problem in the .mdp. -4500 kJ/mol in 10ns over (guessing) 30K atoms is 0.015 kJ/mol/ns/atom. k_B T is at least 100 times larger than that. I bet the rest of the lysozyme model physics is not accurate to less than 1% ;-) There are some comparative numbers at http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-11 Thread Guillaume Chevrot
Hi, sorry for my last post! I re-write my e-mail (with some additional information) and I provide the links to my files ;-) I compared the total energy of 2 simulations: lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / single precision / Gromacs 4.6.3 lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / double precision / Groma

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-11 Thread Mark Abraham
On Oct 11, 2013 7:59 PM, "Guillaume Chevrot" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I recently compared the total energy of 2 simulations: > lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / single precision > lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / double precision > > ... and what I found was quite ... disturbing (see the attached

Re: [gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-11 Thread Michael Shirts
Hi, Guillaume- No one can tell you if you did anything wrong if you didn't tell us what you did! There are literally thousands of combinations of options in running an NVE simulation, a substantial fraction of which are guaranteed not to conserve energy. If you post the files (inputs and relevan

[gmx-users] energy drift - comparison of double and single precision

2013-10-11 Thread Guillaume Chevrot
Hi all, I recently compared the total energy of 2 simulations: lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / single precision lysozyme in water / NVE ensemble / double precision ... and what I found was quite ... disturbing (see the attached figure - plots of the total energy). I observe a constant drift in