[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-26 Thread chris . neale
Gavin, I recall mentioning gen_vel=no with temperature coupling as a possible problem a while ago (the problem is that the initial forces become initial velocities and then those get scaled up and what you have are velocities and not temperatures -- read about the flying ice cube problem).

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-26 Thread Gavin Melaugh
O.K Chris Thanks for all your help. I am actually considering removing the thermostat all together seeing as my system is quite small. I have also started using gen_vel = yes (no matter how much I think my system is in equilibrium). One quick question (perhaps its silly). When you say the initial

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-26 Thread chris . neale
velocities are not taken from the .gro as far as I know. You can get them from the .trr if you also use a .edr. If you want to check, then do a run for only 1 ps and save your .edr every timestep. Then run g_energy and look at the temperature. I am not sure that a constant energy

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-25 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Dear Chris and Justin I ran a simulation for two water molecules (100 ns). It only took 5 minutes. Firstly I ran the simulation with ref distance 2.35 nm, genvel =yes, and gen temp =600 (using Nose Hoover). This produced a histogram with one main peak. I then took the final configuration from

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi all I am generating a series of configurations using the pull code to calculate the pmf. I am using no pbc i.e. pbc =no, howver the output from grommp gives me info on pbc atom. Pull group natoms pbc atom distance at start reference at t=0 07236 1

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Hi all I am generating a series of configurations using the pull code to calculate the pmf. I am using no pbc i.e. pbc =no, howver the output from grommp gives me info on pbc atom. Pull group natoms pbc atom distance at start reference at t=0 072

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Gavin Melaugh wrote: Hi all I am generating a series of configurations using the pull code to calculate the pmf. I am using no pbc i.e. pbc =no, howver the output from grommp gives me info on pbc atom. Pull group natoms pbc atom distance at start reference

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Thanks Justin Have you any idea why when generating umbrella histograms for the pmf I would get two peaks in the histograms above a distance of 2 nm, but below 2 nm I get well behaved histograms that lead to a very good profile in the pmf. To the best of my knowledge the configurations are all

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Thanks Justin Have you any idea why when generating umbrella histograms for the pmf I would get two peaks in the histograms above a distance of 2 nm, but below 2 nm I get well behaved histograms that lead to a very good profile in the pmf. To the best of my knowledge the

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: O.K thanks anyway I saw the plots you posted during a conversation with Chris, but I'll ask the obvious anyway: have you watched the trajectories for any of the problematic windows? It didn't seem like you had two metastable states, but maybe having a look at the

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Justin I have looked at the movies but it's very hard to tell what's going on as I save teh trajectories every 25 steps for every 5000 step simulation (100 ns). Ill look at them again in more detail and post back. Gavin Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Gavin Melaugh wrote: O.K thanks anyway

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Justin I have looked at the movies but it's very hard to tell what's going on as I save teh trajectories every 25 steps for every 5000 step simulation (100 ns). Ill look at them again in more detail and post back. Plotting the pullx.xvg file(s) may be useful,

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
I always used g_dist to plot the COM distances because the pullx.xvg files doesn't give this value directly. Can you access the COM distance from the pullx.xvg file Gavin Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Gavin Melaugh wrote: Justin I have looked at the movies but it's very hard to tell what's going

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: I always used g_dist to plot the COM distances because the pullx.xvg files doesn't give this value directly. Can you access the COM distance from the pullx.xvg file That's what is in pullx.xvg - coordinate (X,Y,Z) of the reference group, then displacement (dX,dY,dZ) of

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
For the umbrella sampling I am not pulling in any direction I am just applying the umbrella potential so that two molecules can sample space about a give value of r0 (COM distance). Maybe I am confused but should I not plot the absolute value of the displacement (modulus) as supposed to the

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: For the umbrella sampling I am not pulling in any direction I am just applying the umbrella potential so that two molecules can sample space about a give value of r0 (COM distance). Maybe I am confused but should I not plot the absolute value of the displacement (modulus)

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
O.K thanks Justine I'll look at these files and see if there is any weirdness. Just to make sure that there are no cut-off artefacts. If I set the cut-offs to zero as in the following mdp file; that does mean that I am considering all electrostatic and LJ interactions between the molecules? and

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: O.K thanks Justine I'll look at these files and see if there is any weirdness. Just to make sure that there are no cut-off artefacts. If I set the cut-offs to zero as in the following mdp file; that does mean that I am considering all electrostatic and LJ interactions

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread chris . neale
I have seen this before, and there are a few possible reasons, but I'm still waiting to see that histogram with two peaks (http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-August/053311.html). It's really hard to help you when we have to guess what the problem looks like... or perhaps you

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have seen this before, and there are a few possible reasons, but I'm still waiting to see that histogram with two peaks (http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-August/053311.html). It's really hard to help you when we have to guess what the problem

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi Chris Yeah I posted the histograms a few days ago as Justin said. Did you get the link? Gavin chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have seen this before, and there are a few possible reasons, but I'm still waiting to see that histogram with two peaks

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Justin In regard to my query regarding the cut-offs at zero with no pbc. I assume its is fine to have box dimensions (0 0 0) to comply with the definition of a vacuum simulation. I am just worried that there may be some default cut-off that I am not aware of. Cheers P.S I have plotted the

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: Justin In regard to my query regarding the cut-offs at zero with no pbc. I assume its is fine to have box dimensions (0 0 0) to comply with the definition of a vacuum simulation. I am just worried that there may be some default cut-off that I am not aware of. You have

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
O.K Thanks My apologies for not stating earlier that I had the box dimensions set to zero but I thought that when you set pbc = no and ns_type = simple that ignore the box (from manual) was implemented. Gavin Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Gavin Melaugh wrote: Justin In regard to my query

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread chris . neale
you can post a step by step from the beginning where you copy and paste absolutely all of your commands (e.g. paste the *exact* grompp, mdrun, g_dist, etc. commands) and the complete .mdp file and the last line in your starting .gro file. Chris. -- original message -- [gmx-users] pbc atom

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: O.K Thanks My apologies for not stating earlier that I had the box dimensions set to zero but I thought that when you set pbc = no and ns_type = simple that ignore the box (from manual) was implemented. Indeed. How many atoms are in your system? How well-conserved is

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
There are 168 atom types in my system, 2 molecules comprising of 84 atoms each. The average temperature is 600 K but there are large fluctuations ca ~100 K, which I assume is expected with such a smal system. Ill check the energies Gavin Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Gavin Melaugh wrote: O.K

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
all of your commands (e.g. paste the *exact* grompp, mdrun, g_dist, etc. commands) and the complete .mdp file and the last line in your starting .gro file. Chris. -- original message -- [gmx-users] pbc atom Gavin Melaugh gmelaugh01 at qub.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 17:19:45 CEST 2010 * Previous

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Gavin Melaugh
message -- [gmx-users] pbc atom Gavin Melaugh gmelaugh01 at qub.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 17:19:45 CEST 2010 * Previous message: [gmx-users] pbc atom * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi Chris Yeah I posted the histograms a few days ago as Justin said. Did

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread chris . neale
Dear Gavin: What happens if you replace your reference group by a single water molecule and your pulled group by a single water molecule and run the 2.35 nm simulation again. Do you get the same two-peaked histogram? What about if you use a system with a single water for the reference

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Gavin Melaugh wrote: There are 168 atom types in my system, 2 molecules comprising of 84 atoms each. The average temperature is 600 K but there are large fluctuations ca ~100 K, which I assume is expected with such a smal system. Ill check the energies I would think it possible, even

Re: [gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey, directly. I think you want this (assuming that cols 5,6,7 give you the dx,dy,dz, which I believe that they do): cat pullx.xvg | grep -v '[#|@]' | awk '{print $1,sqrt($5*$5+$6*$6+$7*$7)}' my.data Nothing directly harmful of course, but why using three programs for this? awk will do

[gmx-users] pbc atom

2010-08-24 Thread chris . neale
Tsjerk, Two reasons. First, I simply don't understand awk as well as you do. Second, I think that breaking it down into simpler commands linked by pipes is better for teaching. If somebody needs help to combine 3 cols into a vector distance, then they may copy and paste your solution to