Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-14 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear All, Thanks for the reply. Then is any single trjconv command available before viewing the trajectory file, or before extracting the xtc file, with that command all the fraud caused by the PBC effect will be got rid of? In addition, the box in the e-mail of Dr Dallas Warren should be the

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Abraham
On 14/08/2012 5:54 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear All, Thanks for the reply. Then is any single trjconv command available before viewing the trajectory file, or before extracting the xtc file, with that command all the fraud caused by the PBC effect will be got rid of? I linked a page with a

RE: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-14 Thread Dallas Warren
You are missing a major conceptual principle of MD here. See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions Read manual, section 3.2 Catch ya, Dr. Dallas Warren Drug Discovery Biology Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University 381 Royal

RE: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-13 Thread Dallas Warren
From your comments, it appears that you have not watched the trajectory for you system. This is really something that everyone should do with the systems they are simulating, as you can gain a lot of information from looking visually at it. Looking at 0.5ns snap shots is not watching the

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Abraham
On 14/08/2012 7:53 AM, Dallas Warren wrote: From your comments, it appears that you have not watched the trajectory for you system. This is really something that everyone should do with the systems they are simulating, as you can gain a lot of information from looking visually at it.

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-11 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear Albert, I hope I can support my MD results with some bioinformatics data. For example, it indicates the highly movavle residue I mentioned in my previous e-mail is not conserved at all, and it is only specific that structure. For your 10X with different seed simulation, does it mean the

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-11 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/11/12 7:25 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear Albert, I hope I can support my MD results with some bioinformatics data. For example, it indicates the highly movavle residue I mentioned in my previous e-mail is not conserved at all, and it is only specific that structure. For your 10X with

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-11 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/11/12 7:49 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear Justine, For aideal protein system (no local minima in the MD), regardless of what the seed number is, the system will converge to a same conformation, rihgt? Not really - a single structure tells you nothing. Individual simulations should

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-10 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear Dr. Dallas Warren, My protein is a protein-peptide complex. The residues I mentioned which moves in a large scope is from the peptide, it is the last 3rd residue of the peptide, a lysine. I compared this lysine position with the other residue positions (including the peptide binding

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/10/12 7:58 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear Dr. Dallas Warren, My protein is a protein-peptide complex. The residues I mentioned which moves in a large scope is from the peptide, it is the last 3rd residue of the peptide, a lysine. I compared this lysine position with the other residue

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-10 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear Justin,   Can you explain to me what do you mean for trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact followed by trjconv -center. Does it mean 2 steps command, with the first step as trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact and the second step as trjconv -center? Or can we merge it as a single step step? Second, will

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-10 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/10/12 8:19 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear Justin, Can you explain to me what do you mean for trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact followed by trjconv -center. Does it mean 2 steps command, with the first step as trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact and the second step as trjconv -center? Or can we merge

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-10 Thread Albert
you have to submit 10X with different seed simulation to confirm your results. 10ns is not converged for some simulation, you should also extend it in nowadays timescale level. Moreover, if you don't have biochemistry data to support your idea, nobody will believe your results. good luck

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-08 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear Catch ya,   I have watched the trajectory of the simulation. Besdies, I got the PDb file for the whole 10 ns MD every 500 ps. Then I compared all the PDB files generated, and it confirms that 1 specific residues moves in an extremely large space.   Can you give me an explaination on it?  

AW: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-08 Thread Rausch, Felix
That's hard to judge for everyone but you, because there are too many questions left. What kind of residue is it? Is it at one of the protein termini, is it on the surface or buried by other sections? Are there interactions with other parts of the system? Did you check the RMSD or RMSF-values

RE: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-08 Thread Dallas Warren
No, I can't, since you are the one with all the information in front of you, and I only have a couple of sentences filtered through you on what is going on. Some questions you can ask yourself to help answer the question you have: And what did the residue do while you watched the

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-07 Thread Acoot Brett
Dear Marck,   Will you please give me some suggestions on how to decide whether the probelm is from periodic boundary conditions?   Cheers,   Acoot - Original Message - From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent:

RE: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-07 Thread Dallas Warren
What information has told you that you have large scale movement? Where did that information come from, how was it generated? Have you watch the trajectory of this simulation to see how the residue actually moves? Catch ya, Dr. Dallas Warren Drug Discovery Biology Monash Institute of

[gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-06 Thread Acoot Brett
 Dear All, I have a protein with about 400 amino acids. I have done a production MD of it. I find in the 400 amino acids, there is 1 amino acids, during the whole MD process, this residue moves in a extremely large scope in comparison with all the other residues. Do you think this single

Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Abraham
On 6/08/2012 8:58 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Dear All, I have a protein with about 400 amino acids. I have done a production MD of it. I find in the 400 amino acids, there is 1 amino acids, during the whole MD process, this residue moves in a extremely large scope in comparison with all the