[gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer

2009-04-22 Thread nahren manuel
Dear Gromacs Users,
 
I am performing a MD simulation of a dimer in a dodecahedron box. The 
simulation stopped after 8 ns (power cut) and i had to restart to complete it 
fully to 12 ns. 
 
I then concatenated the two trajectories using trjcat
 
trjconv -f promd.trr -s proem.tpr -pbc nojump -o nojump.xtc
 
trjconv -f nojump.xtc -s proem.tpr -pbc mol -ur compact -center -boxcenter tric 
-o center.xtc
 
trjconv -f center.xtc -s proem.tpr -fit rot+trans -o fit.xtc
 
 
1. The above procedures does not center the molecule in the box. 
2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially for the 
duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)
I feel I am missing something here. Kindly advice.
 
regards,
nahren


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Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer

2009-04-22 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Nahren,

 trjconv -f promd.trr -s proem.tpr -pbc nojump -o nojump.xtc
 trjconv -f nojump.xtc -s proem.tpr -pbc mol -ur compact -center -boxcenter 
 tric -o center.xtc
 trjconv -f center.xtc -s proem.tpr -fit rot+trans -o fit.xtc

 1. The above procedures does not center the molecule in the box.

You first center and then do a fit. The fitted trajectory will only be
centered if the reference (proem.tpr) is (and then you can skip the
second step anyway).

 2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially for the
 duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)

What do you mean with this?

Cheers,

Tsjerk


-- 
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623
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Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Abraham

nahren manuel wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,

 

I am performing a MD simulation of a dimer in a dodecahedron box. The 
simulation stopped after 8 ns (power cut) and i had to restart to 
complete it fully to 12 ns.


 


I then concatenated the two trajectories using trjcat

 


trjconv -f promd.trr -s proem.tpr -pbc nojump -o nojump.xtc

 

trjconv -f nojump.xtc -s proem.tpr -pbc mol -ur compact -center 
-boxcenter tric -o center.xtc


 


trjconv -f center.xtc -s proem.tpr -fit rot+trans -o fit.xtc

 

 


1. The above procedures does not center the molecule in the box.


The last operation fits to a structure, permitting rotations and 
translations. If the target is not centered in its box...


2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially for 
the duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)


I feel I am missing something here. Kindly advice.


It's a periodic box - a mathematical construction. The simulation 
doesn't care where the atoms go in relation to it. If you care, you can 
apply trjconv afterwards.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer

2009-04-22 Thread nahren manuel
Dear Gormacs User,

I have now created a new tpr in which the protein is centered.
trjconv -f promd.xtc -s tprdodecasolv.tpr -center -boxcenter tric -pbc mol -ur 
compact -o center.xtc
trjconv  -s tprdodecasolv.tpr -fit rot+trans -f center.xtc -o fit.xtc

I see the dimer getting split in some of the frames of fit.xtc.?

 2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially for the
 duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)

What do you mean with this?

I actually see my dodeca box jumping from one end of the viewer to another ( in 
VMD as well as in ngmx)

thanks for your attention and reply.

regards
nahren


--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 2:50 PM

Hi Nahren,

 trjconv -f promd.trr -s proem.tpr -pbc nojump -o nojump.xtc
 trjconv -f nojump.xtc -s proem.tpr -pbc mol -ur compact -center -boxcenter 
 tric -o center.xtc
 trjconv -f center.xtc -s proem.tpr -fit rot+trans -o fit.xtc

 1. The above procedures does not center the molecule in the box.

You first center and then do a fit. The fitted trajectory will only be
centered if the reference (proem.tpr) is (and then you can skip the
second step anyway).

 2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially for the
 duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)

What do you mean with this?

Cheers,

Tsjerk


-- 
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623
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Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Abraham

nahren manuel wrote:

Dear Gormacs User,

I have now created a new tpr in which the protein is centered.
trjconv -f promd.xtc -s tprdodecasolv.tpr -center -boxcenter tric -pbc 
mol -ur compact -o center.xtc

trjconv  -s tprdodecasolv.tpr -fit rot+trans -f center.xtc -o fit.xtc

I see the dimer getting split in some of the frames of fit.xtc.?


You're centering on some group, then allowing translations to fit to a 
structure that might have some different center. So there's no great 
suprise that the result need not be centered. Re-think the order of your 
operations.


Mark

  2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center. Especially 
for the

  duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)

 What do you mean with this?

I actually see my dodeca box jumping from one end of the viewer to 
another ( in VMD as well as in ngmx)


thanks for your attention and reply.

regards
nahren


--- On *Wed, 4/22/09, Tsjerk Wassenaar /tsje...@gmail.com/* wrote:


From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] -center -fit dodecahedron : dimer
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 2:50 PM

Hi Nahren,

  trjconv -f promd.trr -s proem.tpr -pbc nojump -o nojump.xtc
  trjconv -f nojump.xtc -s proem.tpr -pbc mol -ur compact -center
-boxcenter tric -o center.xtc
  trjconv -f center.xtc -s proem.tpr -fit rot+trans -o fit.xtc

  1. The above procedures does not center the molecule in the box.

You first center and then do a fit. The fitted trajectory will only be
centered if the reference (proem.tpr) is (and then you can skip the
second step anyway).

  2. The box seems to shift from one corner to the center.
Especially for the
  duration 8-12 ns (my restart run)

What do you mean with this?

Cheers,

Tsjerk


-- 
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.

Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623
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